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Title: Offdahook, is dis da way?
Post by: DoubleJ on October 03, 2014, 05:16:08 PM
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Going to fish a river for the first time ever.  This is my first tied corky.  What do you think?
Title: Re: Offdahook, is dis da way?
Post by: hollymaster on October 03, 2014, 05:25:38 PM
How long is the leader?  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Offdahook, is dis da way?
Post by: DoubleJ on October 03, 2014, 05:26:13 PM
How long should it be?  I haven't cut it yet
Title: Re: Offdahook, is dis da way?
Post by: JimmyHoffa on October 03, 2014, 05:28:29 PM
About 6 feet.
No, I usually go with the length of the fish expected to catch or maybe longer depending on visibility.
Title: Re: Offdahook, is dis da way?
Post by: DoubleJ on October 03, 2014, 05:29:41 PM
I was thinking 30" seemed about right
Title: Re: Offdahook, is dis da way?
Post by: RadSav on October 03, 2014, 05:41:02 PM
I was thinking 30" seemed about right

Yep, half a fathom is about right.  Full fathom and drop the corky if you want to increase the floss effect. ;)

A lot depends on the speed and depth of water.  But I'd say 80+% of the time my leaders run between 30 and 40".

And if you REALLY want to floss...just buy a spey rod and tell everyone your fly fishing :chuckle:
Title: Re: Offdahook, is dis da way?
Post by: DoubleJ on October 03, 2014, 05:51:40 PM
I'm not getting into the flossing/snagging debate so knock it off.  I currently don't have a boat motor and I am just trying to get my oldest boy into some salmon.
Title: Re: Offdahook, is dis da way?
Post by: DoubleJ on October 03, 2014, 05:52:45 PM
I was thinking 30" seemed about right

Yep, half a fathom is about right.  Full fathom and drop the corky if you want to increase the floss effect. ;)

A lot depends on the speed and depth of water.  But I'd say 80+% of the time my leaders run between 30 and 40".

And if you REALLY want to floss...just buy a spey rod and tell everyone your fly fishing :chuckle:

If you've got it in you, you should come up and show the boy and I how to do it ;)
Title: Re: Offdahook, is dis da way?
Post by: RadSav on October 03, 2014, 06:07:19 PM
I'm not getting into the flossing/snagging debate so knock it off.

The title of the thread would lead folks into thinking otherwise :chuckle: 

But OK, what water are you planning on hitting?
Title: Re: Offdahook, is dis da way?
Post by: DoubleJ on October 03, 2014, 06:31:36 PM
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Title: Re: Offdahook, is dis da way?
Post by: offdahook on October 03, 2014, 06:46:55 PM
looklike good ! dont forgot to put smell jelly on yarn!!  and ya 8-14' leader will do da trick
Title: Re: Offdahook, is dis da way?
Post by: DoubleJ on October 03, 2014, 06:58:29 PM
I got sand shrimp flavor
Title: Re: Offdahook, is dis da way?
Post by: Bullkllr on October 03, 2014, 07:16:17 PM
Well, realistically the corkie thing can be pretty effective - at certain times and in certain kinds of water. Where ODH is fishing, it is probably the most productive method.

That said, a corkie and yarn by itself is not a particularly great attractant for any salmon in most conditions. You will basically have to drift it into a mouth, imo.

Depending on where you are fishing, there could be a number of more effective methods:
eggs under a float
drift fished eggs
spinners/spoons
twitching or floating jigs
casting plugs

Really depends on where you are and water conditions...


Title: Re: Offdahook, is dis da way?
Post by: offdahook on October 03, 2014, 07:37:16 PM
dis pole mine work good to throw long leader 13 feet(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi60.tinypic.com%2Flxshe.jpg&hash=939493cc57545e9ba13e01ce7050e39f653bd28c)
Title: Re: Offdahook, is dis da way?
Post by: Alchase on October 03, 2014, 08:00:49 PM
Double J, if you google steal head/salmon river drift fishing rigs, you will get leader lengths from 2' to 10'.
Personally, while drift fishing I have never needed more the 48" usually around 36" which is the length from my finger tips to my shoulder. Not a per ice measurement, LOL.
Plunking I have gone up to 6' depending on depth.
Good luck getting your son on some fish!
Title: Re: Offdahook, is dis da way?
Post by: bowhunterwa87 on October 03, 2014, 08:05:17 PM
I wanna hit up the rivers on the west side next year and try this...sounds like a lot of fun..but my rods only 8'6''
Title: Re: Offdahook, is dis da way?
Post by: DoubleJ on October 03, 2014, 08:31:17 PM
I wanna hit up the rivers on the west side next year and try this...sounds like a lot of fun..but my rods only 8'6''

I'm using a 7' med action ugly stik.  Use what you got I guess.  I'm not in a place to buy all new tackle so it'll have to do, whether it works or not
Title: Re: Offdahook, is dis da way?
Post by: wildmanoutdoors on October 03, 2014, 08:36:04 PM
dis pole mine work good to throw long leader 13 feet(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi60.tinypic.com%2Flxshe.jpg&hash=939493cc57545e9ba13e01ce7050e39f653bd28c)

Wow, 500 dollar rod to throw 8 to 14 foot leaders. You da man!
Title: Re: Offdahook, is dis da way?
Post by: FC on October 03, 2014, 08:41:37 PM
I've used leaders from 2'-12' (the really long leaders were usually with a float) depending on water depth, speed, where fish were in water column etc. For the most part my rods are from 8'6" - 9'6" but if using line stops you can use a much longer leader with good cast-ability. I have used up to 10' leaders drifting with my 9'6" Lamiglas effectively, you do need to pay attention to your back-cast though :P
Title: Re: Offdahook, is dis da way?
Post by: Alchase on October 03, 2014, 09:01:50 PM

Good stuff, I have never used floats or jigs, one of these days I  ha e to try it. Everyone who uses floats, swears by them.

I wanna hit up the rivers on the west side next year and try this...sounds like a lot of fun..but my rods only 8'6''
When I was a kid I used a 6 1/2 foot medium action, with a Mitchell 300 spin cast for everything from steal head, salmon, to trout. Not the best but it was what I had and It caught fish.
Title: Re: Offdahook, is dis da way?
Post by: RadSav on October 03, 2014, 09:21:00 PM
I grew up fishing a lot of small coastal streams.  7' medium action rods were almost too long in many cases.  We slambasted salmon and steelhead with those rods.  We even ran floats with 20' droppers in the fall Chinook using nailknot stoppers we made using carpet thread from the local sewing store.  Those were some good times!

Wasn't until I moved to Seattle I learned you could not catch fish with a rod less than 9' :chuckle:
Title: Re: Offdahook, is dis da way?
Post by: hunt_fish on October 03, 2014, 10:31:13 PM
I wanna hit up the rivers on the west side next year and try this...sounds like a lot of fun..but my rods only 8'6''

Might as well stay on the eastside and bank it for salmon and steelhead.  Less of a pain than the crowds on the westside, but if you want a laugh you can go in August and September when more fools go out for the pinks.  Lol at the rod length comment though.
Title: Re: Offdahook, is dis da way?
Post by: gr8whthunter on October 04, 2014, 07:52:21 AM
i still dont understand how that set up is "for flossing" or snagging or whatever, i use an 8'6" lamiglass northwest special, 12-14" leader, hook yarn and corkie a bunch of different color variations and thats what ive used my entire life with good success over here on the wetside, sol duc, bogachel, hoh, and the calawha. steelhead and salmon during the summer though ill switch it up a little and use a float and jig in the calawha ponds (slow moving river)
Title: Re: Offdahook, is dis da way?
Post by: _TONY_ on October 04, 2014, 08:22:01 AM
i still dont understand how that set up is "for flossing" or snagging or whatever, i use an 8'6" lamiglass northwest special, 12-14" leader, hook yarn and corkie a bunch of different color variations and thats what ive used my entire life with good success over here on the wetside, sol duc, bogachel, hoh, and the calawha. steelhead and salmon during the summer though ill switch it up a little and use a float and jig in the calawha ponds (slow moving river)

I use a corky and yarn for steelhead, too, and have great success... The only difference between a flossing rig and a legit drift fishing rig is the leader size. For steelhead, there is no reason to use a leader longer then 36". In fact, a 36"/- is much for effective at keeping your offering in the zone longer. When I'm fishing PW's, I'll fish a 12" leader, or less.

Typically, salmon will not bite a corky, or yarn. Though, pinks are a different story...

Flossing = Fancy snagging



Title: Re: Offdahook, is dis da way?
Post by: offdahook on October 04, 2014, 12:49:20 PM
i still dont understand how that set up is "for flossing" or snagging or whatever, i use an 8'6" lamiglass northwest special, 12-14" leader, hook yarn and corkie a bunch of different color variations and thats what ive used my entire life with good success over here on the wetside, sol duc, bogachel, hoh, and the calawha. steelhead and salmon during the summer though ill switch it up a little and use a float and jig in the calawha ponds (slow moving river)

I use a corky and yarn for steelhead, too, and have great success... The only difference between a flossing rig and a legit drift fishing rig is the leader size. For steelhead, there is no reason to use a leader longer then 36". In fact, a 36"/- is much for effective at keeping your offering in the zone longer. When I'm fishing PW's, I'll fish a 12" leader, or less.

Typically, salmon will not bite a corky, or yarn. Though, pinks are a different story...

Flossing = Fancy snagging
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Title: Re: Offdahook, is dis da way?
Post by: jackelope on October 04, 2014, 01:34:27 PM
Folks...a member started a thread with a legit question. Please leave it at that.
We don't have time to babysit every post.
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