Post by: Smossy on October 05, 2014, 06:17:05 PM
I may get a few odd looks for this one but thats fine.
Are there any legal requirements that goes along with hunting coyote?
I know there is no bag limit.
I know open hunting season for them is year round.
What I don't know is there a weapon requirement.
Ive been looking into purchasing a pneumatic .357 air rifle and being as its used for medium/large game like water buffalo and bison. I imagine it will have no problem taking out a song dog. But I'm concerned about the legality considering its an "air rifle".
Would it be legal? It would be more then humane...
Post by: bowhunterwa87 on October 05, 2014, 06:28:18 PM
Great gun out to 100 yards...
It punches clean through a 2x4 at sixty...haven't tried further yet.
I wish they were legal for grouse and turkeys here...
Post by: Smossy on October 05, 2014, 06:35:18 PM
I'm in the same boat as you with prior felonies.
Post by: Raul Duke on October 05, 2014, 06:37:52 PM
Post by: Smossy on October 05, 2014, 06:38:50 PM
just a heads-up. If you are hunting coyotes during rifle season, you must wear hunters orange.Good call thanks, didn't even think about that.
Post by: bowhunterwa87 on October 05, 2014, 06:44:20 PM
Just a thought...Missouri allows the use of 40cal or bigger for deer hunting with airguns...u might think about upping your cal for out of state trips.
Post by: Smossy on October 05, 2014, 06:46:22 PM
And as far as dispatching...no small game ie bobcats....No dispatching? What do you mean... That's the only way id dispatch a bobcat during trapping season..
Just a thought...Missouri allows the use of 40cal or bigger for deer hunting with airguns...u might think about upping your cal for out of state trips.
Post by: bowhunterwa87 on October 05, 2014, 06:51:03 PM
We need to make a list of unclassified animals in wa. As I haven't been able to find any...
Post by: Smossy on October 05, 2014, 06:58:59 PM
I think it would be a legallity issue as you cannot "hunt" any type of small game or fur bearers with an air rifle..only unclassified wildlife ..... And coyote is unclassified wildlife ...so are our local grey squirrels on the east side...
We need to make a list of unclassified animals in wa. As I haven't been able to find any...
Its perfectly legal for trapping purposes. Has to be a .22 minimum caliber though.
Post by: Goldeneye on October 05, 2014, 07:09:13 PM
I think it would be a legallity issue as you cannot "hunt" any type of small game or fur bearers with an air rifle..only unclassified wildlife ..... And coyote is unclassified wildlife ...so are our local grey squirrels on the east side...
We need to make a list of unclassified animals in wa. As I haven't been able to find any...
Here's your list showing unclassified animals. I pulled the PDF from the WDFW site. Open the link below...
Post by: bowhunterwa87 on October 05, 2014, 07:09:35 PM
Post by: dreamunelk on October 05, 2014, 07:11:46 PM
Post by: bowhunterwa87 on October 05, 2014, 07:13:17 PM
Post by: KenPCPilot on October 05, 2014, 08:30:03 PM
Post by: Smossy on October 05, 2014, 08:33:29 PM
I don't think air rifles are legal yet.that was my concern. For big game I know they are not but coyotes make a grey area.
Post by: woodswalker on October 06, 2014, 09:39:14 AM
I did a few fast document searches, but couldnt find anything either way
Post by: jjaba on October 06, 2014, 10:24:33 AM
Prohibited to:
Hunt game birds or game animals
with anything other than a firearm,
a bow and arrow, or by falconry.
page 80
they said since Coyote is listed in the Small Game regs it is considered a Game animal.
Post by: bowhunterwa87 on October 06, 2014, 12:34:35 PM
Post by: fast1 on October 06, 2014, 04:50:29 PM
Post by: jjaba on October 08, 2014, 04:27:20 PM
Although we do have rules that apply to hunting them, a coyote is considered an unclassified animal. You can use any type of weapon to hunt an unclassified animal in Wa.
So, technically, you can hunt coyote with an air rifle.
However, this type of weapon may or may not kill the animal. This would cause undo pain and suffering and in some circumstances might be considered animal cruelty by an enforcement officer. Therefore we would advise against it to avoid a citation or having the animal run off injured.
If you have other questions about this subject, I would advise you to contact our WILDCOMM center at wildcomm@dfw.wa.gov or 360-902-2936.
Post by: bearmanric on October 08, 2014, 05:12:46 PM
Post by: jennyfell55 on October 09, 2014, 05:20:16 PM
http://wdfw.wa.gov/help/questions/356/I+heard+about+hunting+unclassified+wildlife.+What+do+I+need+to+purchase+and+what+type+of+weapons+can+I+use+to+hunt+them%3F (http://wdfw.wa.gov/help/questions/356/I+heard+about+hunting+unclassified+wildlife.+What+do+I+need+to+purchase+and+what+type+of+weapons+can+I+use+to+hunt+them%3F)
Post by: Becky on October 09, 2014, 05:22:49 PM
According to this coyotes with an air rifle is perfectly legal (since coyotes are unclassified wildlife)
http://wdfw.wa.gov/help/questions/356/I+heard+about+hunting+unclassified+wildlife.+What+do+I+need+to+purchase+and+what+type+of+weapons+can+I+use+to+hunt+them%3F (http://wdfw.wa.gov/help/questions/356/I+heard+about+hunting+unclassified+wildlife.+What+do+I+need+to+purchase+and+what+type+of+weapons+can+I+use+to+hunt+them%3F)
I would call that "in writing" :tup: I know what he'll be saving up for next :chuckle:
Post by: bigtex on October 09, 2014, 05:34:03 PM
I know open hunting season for them is year round.The only exception is US Fish and Wildlife Service land (National Wildlife Refuges.) The only NWR open for coyote hunting in WA is the Pend Orielle NWR in Stevens and Pend Orielle Counties. Even though many other NWR's are open to other types of hunting, only the Pend Orielle is open to coyotes.
This is not in the WDFW regs because it is a federal regulation that WDFW has not yet adopted.
Post by: jasnt on October 15, 2014, 08:47:26 AM
Post by: YellowDog on October 16, 2014, 09:32:00 AM
Post by: trapper boy on December 12, 2014, 07:02:22 PM
Post by: Bob33 on December 12, 2014, 07:14:21 PM
Pitchforks aren't legal either.
Post by: whackmaster on December 12, 2014, 07:34:52 PM
Post by: jjaba on December 12, 2014, 07:39:22 PM
Although we do have rules that apply to hunting them, a coyote is considered an unclassified animal. You can use any type of weapon to hunt an unclassified animal in Wa.
So, technically, you can hunt coyote with an air rifle.
However, this type of weapon may or may not kill the animal. This would cause undo pain and suffering and in some circumstances might be considered animal cruelty by an enforcement officer. Therefore we would advise against it to avoid a citation or having the animal run off injured.
If you have other questions about this subject, I would advise you to contact our WILDCOMM center at wildcomm@dfw.wa.gov or 360-902-2936.
Post by: Timberstalker on December 12, 2014, 07:42:10 PM
An air rifle is not legal, although you probably would not be cited with a coyote.
Pitchforks aren't legal either.
Bob, it appears that this is incorrect. It states in the link provided a few posts up that unclassified game can be hunted with an air rifle.
Post by: Bob33 on December 12, 2014, 07:47:18 PM
My information is correct. Air rifles are not legal.An air rifle is not legal, although you probably would not be cited with a coyote.
Pitchforks aren't legal either.
Bob, it appears that this is incorrect. It states in the link provided a few posts up that unclassified game can be hunted with an air rifle.
http://app.leg.wa.gov/WAC/default.aspx?cite=232-12-047 (http://app.leg.wa.gov/WAC/default.aspx?cite=232-12-047)
"(3) It is unlawful to hunt game birds or game animals, except bullfrogs, in a manner other than with a firearm, a bow and arrow, or by falconry, except in those designated areas where crossbows are allowed."
A coyote is a game animal. An air rifle is not a firearm.
Post by: jasnt on December 12, 2014, 07:58:23 PM
Post by: Bob33 on December 12, 2014, 08:00:00 PM
Coyote is not a game animal. It is un classifiedThey are a game animal. A license is required to hunt them, and they are regulated.
http://app.leg.wa.gov/wac/default.aspx?cite=232-28-342 (http://app.leg.wa.gov/wac/default.aspx?cite=232-28-342)
Post by: whackmaster on December 12, 2014, 08:00:46 PM
Post by: jasnt on December 12, 2014, 08:09:29 PM
a license is required to hunt all un classified's. How are they regulated? Open 365 days a year and no limit. Can be hunted withany hunting license. Also listed on my PDF list of unclassified animals in WACoyote is not a game animal. It is un classifiedThey are a game animal. A license is required to hunt them, and they are regulated.
http://app.leg.wa.gov/wac/default.aspx?cite=232-28-342 (http://app.leg.wa.gov/wac/default.aspx?cite=232-28-342)
Post by: Bob33 on December 12, 2014, 08:12:00 PM
Then they are game animals.a license is required to hunt all un classified'sCoyote is not a game animal. It is un classifiedThey are a game animal. A license is required to hunt them, and they are regulated.
http://app.leg.wa.gov/wac/default.aspx?cite=232-28-342 (http://app.leg.wa.gov/wac/default.aspx?cite=232-28-342)
http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=77.08.010 (http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=77.08.010)
(28) "Game animals" means wild animals that shall not be hunted except as authorized by the commission.
Post by: Becky on December 12, 2014, 08:15:25 PM
Post by: Bob33 on December 12, 2014, 08:16:45 PM
They are an "unclassified game animal" so you both are right. :chuckle:Classified or not, they are a game animal and thus are subject to regulations pertaining to the hunting of game animals.
Post by: Becky on December 12, 2014, 08:19:24 PM
http://wdfw.wa.gov/help/questions/356/I+heard+about+hunting+unclassified+wildlife.+What+do+I+need+to+purchase+and+what+type+of+weapons+can+I+use+to+hunt+them%3F (http://wdfw.wa.gov/help/questions/356/I+heard+about+hunting+unclassified+wildlife.+What+do+I+need+to+purchase+and+what+type+of+weapons+can+I+use+to+hunt+them%3F)
So a .22 air rifle is legal.
Post by: Bob33 on December 12, 2014, 08:20:58 PM
I still believe in this and the many others who have contacted WDFW to ask:I have no problem with it. Shoot them all. :tup:
http://wdfw.wa.gov/help/questions/356/I+heard+about+hunting+unclassified+wildlife.+What+do+I+need+to+purchase+and+what+type+of+weapons+can+I+use+to+hunt+them%3F (http://wdfw.wa.gov/help/questions/356/I+heard+about+hunting+unclassified+wildlife.+What+do+I+need+to+purchase+and+what+type+of+weapons+can+I+use+to+hunt+them%3F)
So a .22 air rifle is legal.
Post by: jasnt on December 12, 2014, 09:03:46 PM
Post by: Becky on December 12, 2014, 09:44:31 PM
Looking in to this air rifles. Many of them are the same price as a firearm. Sounds like a blast though.
Oh yea they are, he paid $230 for his .22 air rifle but it's all he can legally have.
Post by: jasnt on December 12, 2014, 09:59:59 PM
Post by: Timberstalker on December 13, 2014, 07:46:33 AM
My information is correct. Air rifles are not legal.An air rifle is not legal, although you probably would not be cited with a coyote.
Pitchforks aren't legal either.
Bob, it appears that this is incorrect. It states in the link provided a few posts up that unclassified game can be hunted with an air rifle.
http://app.leg.wa.gov/WAC/default.aspx?cite=232-12-047 (http://app.leg.wa.gov/WAC/default.aspx?cite=232-12-047)
"(3) It is unlawful to hunt game birds or game animals, except bullfrogs, in a manner other than with a firearm, a bow and arrow, or by falconry, except in those designated areas where crossbows are allowed."
A coyote is a game animal. An air rifle is not a firearm.
Looks like contradicting information. The WDFW shows an air gun is legal to hunt coyotes. You state an RCW showing otherwise. Looks like a loophole.
Post by: Bob33 on December 13, 2014, 08:28:29 AM
Post by: bowhunterwa87 on December 13, 2014, 09:29:28 AM
Ya my brother is in the same boat. Been looking to get him a 25 cal pcp.I have one and it is bad to the bone..and it does the job wonderfully!!
Post by: jasnt on December 13, 2014, 10:09:27 AM
http://www.airforceairguns.com/Condor-s/39.htm (http://www.airforceairguns.com/Condor-s/39.htm)
Post by: TONTO on December 15, 2014, 06:58:49 PM
Post by: bowhunterwa87 on December 15, 2014, 07:02:49 PM
This is the one I'm thinking of getting for my brother.That's the exact gun I got except mines the ss model with a complete shrouded barrel with six baffles.
http://www.airforceairguns.com/Condor-s/39.htm (http://www.airforceairguns.com/Condor-s/39.htm)
Post by: jasnt on December 15, 2014, 08:51:39 PM
what caliber did you go with? How do you like it?This is the one I'm thinking of getting for my brother.That's the exact gun I got except mines the ss model with a complete shrouded barrel with six baffles.
http://www.airforceairguns.com/Condor-s/39.htm (http://www.airforceairguns.com/Condor-s/39.htm)