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Big Game Hunting => Deer Hunting => Topic started by: woodswalker on October 12, 2014, 01:32:31 PM
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While hunting in the Chewuch unit I find a carcass missing it's head, backstraps,tenderloins and hindquarters. Shot through the shoulder and gutted, no remaining evidence of sex with the carcass. Called WDFW, I can kinda see their point about no suspects or additional info, but it still pisses me off. It had not been there for more than 2 hours.
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Do you carry out smashed to bits shoulders out with you? The guts? Sounds like evidence of sex is with the hind quarters. Two hours? Maybe he will be back to glean the carcass. Your jumping to alot of conclusions.
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Looks like somebody killed a buck and took what they felt like taking. Not the best practice at all, but at least I give them credit for taking the time to gut it and take the loins. I'm sure more could have Ben salvaged off the hit shoulders and neck, but nothing to complain to wdfw about. :twocents:
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Slob hunter. :twocents:
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I don't get it?? :dunno: was it on the road or off in the bush. It looks like a hunter salvaged what he could and packed it out. it looks like he took the time to gut and cool the meat. It looks like he skinned the carcass to cool the meat. I guess the only fault one could find is the front shoulder, but if it was hamburger from the shot then I would not knock the guy for leaving it. Remember.....not all hunters have the experience or expertise that some of us have, so maybe he was packing what he could or and salvaged what he thought was salvageable.
Only reason I would consider a slob hunter is if the carcass was left in the middle of the road or campsite.
Definitely would not have called the warden with the information given. :twocents:
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Looks like somebody killed a buck and took what they felt like taking. Not the best practice at all, but at least I give them credit for taking the time to gut it and take the loins. I'm sure more could have Ben salvaged off the hit shoulders and neck, but nothing to complain to wdfw about. :twocents:
:yeah: If the shoulders are bloodshot and trashed theyre not worth your time. Theyre hardly worth the time when theyre not.
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Looks like somebody killed a buck and took what they felt like taking. Not the best practice at all, but at least I give them credit for taking the time to gut it and take the loins. I'm sure more could have Ben salvaged off the hit shoulders and neck, but nothing to complain to wdfw about. :twocents:
:yeah: If the shoulders are bloodshot and trashed theyre not worth your time. Theyre hardly worth the time when theyre not.
X2...........wont get any points off that one.
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I must be a slob hunter too. I see nothing wrong here.
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I must be a slob hunter too. I see nothing wrong here.
:yeah:
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I have to agree with everybody else here. If the front quarters were trashed why pack em out. Looks like everything here was done right.
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Be surprised how many could careless about the meat ...They just want horns ...I guess I did not study the carcass that good but it does seem to have the choice cuts removed ..So that being said I would say I agree with the rest .
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Meanwhile while the wardens were being distracted with this call, real deer were probably being poached elsewhere. Sometimes I wish people would just put their phones away.
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I'm gonna go with its neither.
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The picture is hard to see from that angle, but from what I see there is a wanton waste ticket right there. Lots of salvageable meat on the front.
Maybe the guy was coming back?
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Isn't it in the regulations that the WDFW requires only 35 pounds of meat to be taken of a deer? :dunno:
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Shoulders were not trashed, there was less than a cereal bowl of blood shot....and it was dumped 3 feet off the side of the road with spin marks leaving. Looks to me like someone dumped a possibly not legal deer and grabbed the good bits. If I had found it a mile or more off the road, with the guts in it or nearby...wouldnt have thought anything of it. Glad some of you think it was a waste of WDFW time. Have heard shots LONG after dark...yeah might be after a long trail on a bad hit...but after midnight near to a road...dont think so.
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Isn't it in the regulations that the WDFW requires only 35 pounds of meat to be taken of a deer? :dunno:
No such thing.
Also wondering why this was posted in the Memorials section???
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A memorial to the deer.
:chuckle:
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Nice to talk to you and your (wife, I assume) today. I agree, this was done by a lazy "hunter".
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Wasn't there so I can only assume. Looks like there was meat wasted on that animal.
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A LOT of wasted meat.
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:yeah: The comments about there being nothing worthwhile in the shoulder are dead wrong. Shoulders make great roasts and stew meat. If they're destroyed by the shot, you can still cut out the bruising and salvage at least a couple lbs of stew meat. Even from my little buck this year I got 2 3-lb roasts and trim for pepperoni from the shoulders.
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Lets all call the DFW for nothing!! I see little waste! Who are we to judge, we have no idea what went on? Heck maybe he got a emergency call and had to go!!
You DO GOODERS are nothing but tattle tales that need to grow up!!!
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Lets all call the DFW for nothing!! I see little waste! Who are we to judge, we have no idea what went on? Heck maybe he got a emergency call and had to go!!
You DO GOODERS are nothing but tattle tales that need to grow up!!!
Jesus RT, You must live with constant high blood pressure! I think the OP called WDFW because he suspected poaching. I don't think anyone else is calling them. It's a discussion about different ideas regarding waste at this point. If you don't think it's waste, say so and go meditate.
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That would be a hell of a ticket in AK!
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I don't think poacher at all. Maybe the placement of what was left was in a bad spot. Looks like he made an effort on the shoulders by skinning them but then didn't take the meat for some reason. If his plan was to just waste the meat I am not sure why he skinned the shoulders out. I am guessing there is more to his story but poaching is not part of it I am sure.
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That would be a hell of a ticket in AK!
:yeah:
Heard they have charts and if it does not match the "estimated" weight or quantity a guy ends up in a heap of trouble!
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I vote lazy waste as well. A poacher would likely not take as much time and do as neat of a job as he/she did.
Front quarters are very tasty meat and many pounds for stew meat, roasts and burger. For me, it is like taking a pound of hamburger out of the freezer and throwing it in the garbage.
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I can tell you that the carcass left from my deer wouldn't feed a raven. I trim the rib meat out, take the flank, everything. It all makes burger and sausage so why not take it? The front shoulders are the easiest meat to get off the body and off the bone anyway, so why leave them? Just wasteful...
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Looks like there is some waste to me. Based on where it was found, and the initial story I feel its pretty reasonable the hunter not coming back. He took the cuts he wanted and left the rest.
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I can tell you that the carcass left from my deer wouldn't feed a raven. I trim the rib meat out, take the flank, everything. It all makes burger and sausage so why not take it? The front shoulders are the easiest meat to get off the body and off the bone anyway, so why leave them? Just wasteful...
What do you use the rib meat for?
I feed it to my dogs because I can't find a palatable option for it.
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Grind it up with the other scraps used for burger and pepperoni.
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Grind it up with the other scraps used for burger and pepperoni.
Tried it, not crazy about the texture added from all that tallowy fat.
Guess I am a wimp
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Hack-job. Id be embarassed to have done that kind of work personally :twocents:
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I can tell you that the carcass left from my deer wouldn't feed a raven. I trim the rib meat out, take the flank, everything. It all makes burger and sausage so why not take it? The front shoulders are the easiest meat to get off the body and off the bone anyway, so why leave them? Just wasteful...
What do you use the rib meat for?
I feed it to my dogs because I can't find a palatable option for it.
I would have to agree the rib meat on a deer is a joke. I take it because it's required. I'm very picky on what I grind for burger and sausage and the time it takes to trim the rib meat the way I want it to grind is basically ridiculous. By the time I spend a half hour trimming it, I usually end up with less than a pound of meat. Hardly worth it even though I try not to ever waste anything. I'm happier saving the hearts and gizzards out of grouse. :twocents:
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Lets all call the DFW for nothing!! I see little waste! Who are we to judge, we have no idea what went on? Heck maybe he got a emergency call and had to go!!
You DO GOODERS are nothing but tattle tales that need to grow up!!!
:yeah:
These do gooders really get to me, hiding behind screen names on the Internet pointing fingers and judging with their noses in the air. Get a life. Gamehunter1959....
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Such hostility at those just having a discussion. Such anger at someone making call out of concern and making accusations of their own with juvenile name calling. Wow.
Perfect example of a thread spiraling downhill in a hurry.
Carry on.
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I can tell you that the carcass left from my deer wouldn't feed a raven. I trim the rib meat out, take the flank, everything. It all makes burger and sausage so why not take it? The front shoulders are the easiest meat to get off the body and off the bone anyway, so why leave them? Just wasteful...
What do you use the rib meat for?
I feed it to my dogs because I can't find a palatable option for it.
I would have to agree the rib meat on a deer is a joke. I take it because it's required. I'm very picky on what I grind for burger and sausage and the time it takes to trim the rib meat the way I want it to grind is basically ridiculous. By the time I spend a half hour trimming it, I usually end up with less than a pound of meat. Hardly worth it even though I try not to ever waste anything. I'm happier saving the hearts and gizzards out of grouse. :twocents:
Required? I never take the rib meat on deer, its not worth the time, generally half of it is bloodshot and there is more fibrous stuff in it than meat it seems. Elk is one thing, but deer and bear I leave it for nature to dispose of. The only thing I really see wrong here other than a few pounds of shoulder meat that could have been saved is the fact that it sounds like this hunter tossed this carcass right along side a road, which I've always thought is distasteful. Toss it in the brush.
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I can tell you that the carcass left from my deer wouldn't feed a raven. I trim the rib meat out, take the flank, everything. It all makes burger and sausage so why not take it? The front shoulders are the easiest meat to get off the body and off the bone anyway, so why leave them? Just wasteful...
What do you use the rib meat for?
I feed it to my dogs because I can't find a palatable option for it.
I would have to agree the rib meat on a deer is a joke. I take it because it's required. I'm very picky on what I grind for burger and sausage and the time it takes to trim the rib meat the way I want it to grind is basically ridiculous. By the time I spend a half hour trimming it, I usually end up with less than a pound of meat. Hardly worth it even though I try not to ever waste anything. I'm happier saving the hearts and gizzards out of grouse. :twocents:
To each his own. The way I see it, I killed that animal, I better do my best to use every ounce of meat on it. Even the bones in the quarters get used as dog treats. Its more a show of respect to the animal than anything. I don't think you can fault a guy for that, but I'm sure someone will try and find a way.
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Sounds like it was close to the road, so they could have gutted, skinned it and taken it out whole and salvaged a lot of meat.
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I think a game agent could write a Wanton Waste ticket on this one. I always thought if checked by an agent you should have two Front quarters, two Rear quarters, two Backstraps, two Tenderloins Loins, and a burger bag of neck and rib meat. If a shoulder is shot up the good portions should be in the burger bag.
In Alaska , ADF&G spells this out very clearly but here in Washington it is not as black and white in the regs. All I can find is "You may NOT allow game animals you have taken to recklessly be wasted."
Looks to me like it was shot in an earlier season and that he aged it (he got it out whole and hung it) and took the steaks and roast and didn't want to deal with the burger so he dumped it. Notice how dark the meat is for opening day. If he hung it in his shop and elected not to take the burger I think he would get a ticket if caught.
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Looks like he got at least 80% of the total meat and all the good cuts. I can't really say it's a "waste" but sure there's some still left on the carcass.
Some of you guys set a very high standard which is good but I seriously doubt a judge or jury would see that as a "reckless waste" ticket. :dunno:
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I agree. Looks like just lazy to me, or the guy is just not good at processing game.
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I would say waste as well, I am not sure how you guys do your burger, but I always use neck/front shoulder/rib meat... I never trim the rib meat and it grinds up just fine. I use a 20% bacon mix with my burger and sometimes add cheese as well. It is nothing less then amazing on the grill. IMO you should take all the useable meat you can.. some of you are complaining about having to trim rib meat... A- you do not have to and B- I bet the deer would prefer to be alive... who really has the right to complain in that scenario?
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I would bet that there is between 15 and 25 pounds of good meat left on that carcass...is that so little that it can be just thrown away? I am pretty disappointed at some of the responses in this thread. When I found that deer I would have bet on it being about 4-8 hours old. Meat was still good. Today of course it's dark and sour.
It was good to meet you Jeep, hope you all did well today.
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:beatdeadhorse: "faster horse, faster..."
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I would bet that there is between 15 and 25 pounds of good meat left on that carcass...is that so little that it can be just thrown away? I am pretty disappointed at some of the responses in this thread. When I found that deer I would have bet on it being about 4-8 hours old. Meat was still good. Today of course it's dark and sour.
It was good to meet you Jeep, hope you all did well today.
I think some of the responses were based on the first picture posted and that you said both front shoulders were shot through. The second pic shows a lot more meat. I know that my buck this year was shot straight through the front shoulder with a 168 gr Berger VLD. The bullet hit the bone, shattering it. I brought the deer out whole, but there was virtually no meat left on the lower 1/3 of the shoulder. WHen I cut the skin, the leg literally fell off. After trimming the part away that was hamburgered and had bone fragments in it, I was left with a little meat on the upper part near the spine, but that was it.
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Isn't it in the regulations that the WDFW requires only 35 pounds of meat to be taken of a deer? :dunno:
Dang I need to shoot bigger deer I can barely get that off the doe's I normally shoot
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2 things I learned from this thread...
1. More hunters need to practice more often, shoot em in the vitals, not the front shoulder= less waste of meat.
2. A lot of "Hunters" waste meat. Do you buy a pizza, case of beer, ribeye steak, etc. and instantly throw 1/2 of it in the garbage?
Hunting should always be about the meat, horns are an added bonus.
:twocents: :twocents: Flame on
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2 things I learned from this thread...
1. More hunters need to practice more often, shoot em in the vitals, not the front shoulder= less waste of meat.
2. A lot of "Hunters" waste meat. Do you buy a pizza, case of beer, ribeye steak, etc. and instantly throw 1/2 of it in the garbage?
Hunting should always be about the meat, horns are an added bonus.
:twocents: :twocents: Flame on
:yeah:
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2 things I learned from this thread...
1. More hunters need to practice more often, shoot em in the vitals, not the front shoulder= less waste of meat.
2. A lot of "Hunters" waste meat. Do you buy a pizza, case of beer, ribeye steak, etc. and instantly throw 1/2 of it in the garbage?
Hunting should always be about the meat, horns are an added bonus.
:twocents: :twocents: Flame on
You missed the most important lesson! Huntwa is full of rent a cops quick to judge when they have no idea what went on! Guilty before innocence seems to be the norm on here! And we wonder why so many have quit posting!
His tag! His deer! He took what he thought was usable. Slob hunter? Nope! Come into my camp and tell me how to cut up my deer or elk and you will quickly be escorted out of camp.
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100% slob hunter. You choose to pull the trigger and end an animals life, you sure as hell better use every ounce of meat on it!!!
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100% slob hunter. You choose to pull the trigger and end an animals life, you sure as hell better use every ounce of meat on it!!!
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This is why I wish WA had a specific wastage law like Alaska and other states. It eliminates the guessing game of what may be wastage and what isn't wastage. :twocents:
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2 things I learned from this thread...
1. More hunters need to practice more often, shoot em in the vitals, not the front shoulder= less waste of meat.
2. A lot of "Hunters" waste meat. Do you buy a pizza, case of beer, ribeye steak, etc. and instantly throw 1/2 of it in the garbage?
Hunting should always be about the meat, horns are an added bonus.
:twocents: :twocents: Flame on
You missed the most important lesson! Huntwa is full of rent a cops quick to judge when they have no idea what went on! Guilty before innocence seems to be the norm on here! And we wonder why so many have quit posting!
His tag! His deer! He took what he thought was usable. Slob hunter? Nope! Come into my camp and tell me how to cut up my deer or elk and you will quickly be escorted out of camp.
Wow................Speechless...............Almost,
Lets see, I missed a lesson????? Maybe you should re-read the above bold of your post. I do believe you are the pot calling the kettle black.
If you are not prepared/capable of correctly handling/processing a game animal, don't hunt. PERIOD
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The worms and maggots have to eat too,Might help a weak bear survive the winter.
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I'll be sure and save the bloodshot and bone splintered rib meat for you meat hunters from now on. Then it won't go to waste. Problem solved!
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I'll be sure and save the bloodshot and bone splintered rib meat for you meat hunters from now on. Then it won't go to waste. Problem solved!
I don't think anyone is saying you have to keep the bruised and bone-chipped meat. There seemed to be at least a couple of lbs of usable meat in that picture that was wasted. When it comes right down to it, I'm sure that you strive to harvest as much usable meat as you can off of an animal you've killed, Sir. That's all that anyone's pointing out here.
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ID regs state you don't have to take the neck or rib meat, which surprises me. Maybe the hunter read that meat near the bullet wound could have tiny lead particles and rather then take a chance he discarded it.
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2 things I learned from this thread...
1. More hunters need to practice more often, shoot em in the vitals, not the front shoulder= less waste of meat.
2. A lot of "Hunters" waste meat. Do you buy a pizza, case of beer, ribeye steak, etc. and instantly throw 1/2 of it in the garbage?
Hunting should always be about the meat, horns are an added bonus.
:twocents: :twocents: Flame on
You missed the most important lesson! Huntwa is full of rent a cops quick to judge when they have no idea what went on! Guilty before innocence seems to be the norm on here! And we wonder why so many have quit posting!
His tag! His deer! He took what he thought was usable. Slob hunter? Nope! Come into my camp and tell me how to cut up my deer or elk and you will quickly be escorted out of camp.
Wow................Speechless...............Almost,
Lets see, I missed a lesson????? Maybe you should re-read the above bold of your post. I do believe you are the pot calling the kettle black.
If you are not prepared/capable of correctly handling/processing a game animal, don't hunt. PERIOD
I think you are really questioning, a fellow hunters ethics and intelligence??? Your not standing over this carcass!! How do you know its not covered in gut juice? Feces? Bloodshot? Chipped bone? YOU DONT! So again keep up the rent a cop internet policework.
I like to give benefit of doubt, until facts are facts.. To call this hunter a slob is absolutely yourself being ignorant of the facts. But flame away its your right.. Dont forget that little string of meat around that deers butthole! You can make one piece of jerky out of it..
Im not missing anything, Im standing up for someone who isnt here to say what did or did not take place.
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You do not know what happened either, so you could be standing up for a slob hunter. JMO
If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, flies like a duck, its probably a duck.
Yes RT that's a deer testicle, and yes I ate it. Thanks for the tip....I'll try the cut you suggested next. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
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You do not know what happened either, so you could be standing up for a slob hunter. JMO
If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, flies like a duck, its probably a duck.
Yes RT that's a deer testicle, and yes I ate it. Thanks for the tip....I'll try the cut you suggested next. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
So what did that taste like? I wonder if they are juicer in the rut? :yike:
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I can honestly say I have wasted every single Buck and Bull nut I have had a chance to waste.
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You do not know what happened either, so you could be standing up for a slob hunter. JMO
If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, flies like a duck, its probably a duck.
Yes RT that's a deer testicle, and yes I ate it. Thanks for the tip....I'll try the cut you suggested next. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
So what did that taste like? I wonder if they are juicer in the rut? :yike:
1st time I have tried them. very little taste
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I have seen complete wasted animals from guys that waited over night to recover, how hot was it? Maybe he took what he could handle. I will say not very many hunters take every once of meat. Not nearly as bad as guys that make poor shoto and don't follow up on them. Not ideal but all creatures will benefit from it both that hunter and the scavengers. Want to rant focus on the waste of road kill :twocents:
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When I was a kid, we raised cattle, pigs, chickens, ducks and turkeys for meat. I remember my dad sawing pork chops by hand with his meat saw, and grinding scraps into burger. I was always there helping him. Dad did a very professional job butchering, and as a kid I was amazed at the pride he had in his work. He used the entire animal - even the fat was saved for making burger from game or homemade soap. He taught me to be respectful to the animals and not waste them needlessly.
Hunting with dad was much the same. He kept his knives sharp, guns clean, and camp was ship shape. He taught me ethics. Gun safety. Respect to other hunters. Dad butchered his game animals cleanly, never wasting. His venison was the best, because he took a lot of pride in his work. He stripped the carcass clean.
Today, I say a prayer in thanks every time I harvest a game animal. The opportunity to hunt and harvest in our pristine public lands is a true blessing. I hope most of you will not take it lightly. My dad is gone now... but I carry his lessons with me.
Here's a photo of Dad and his last buck. He was about 76 years old & ate every scrap of rib meat off the critter before he died. :tup:
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When I was a kid, we raised cattle, pigs, chickens, ducks and turkeys for meat. I remember my dad sawing pork chops by hand with his meat saw, and grinding scraps into burger. I was always there helping him. Dad did a very professional job butchering, and as a kid I was amazed at the pride he had in his work. He used the entire animal - even the fat was saved for making burger from game or homemade soap. He taught me to be respectful to the animals and not waste them needlessly.
Hunting with dad was much the same. He kept his knives sharp, guns clean, and camp was ship shape. He taught me ethics. Gun safety. Respect to other hunters. Dad butchered his game animals cleanly, never wasting. His venison was the best, because he took a lot of pride in his work. He stripped the carcass clean.
Today, I say a prayer in thanks every time I harvest a game animal. The opportunity to hunt and harvest in our pristine public lands is a true blessing. I hope most of you will not take it lightly. My dad is gone now... but I carry his lessons with me.
Here's a photo of Dad and his last buck. He was about 76 years old & ate every scrap of rib meat off the critter before he died. :tup:
Right on. Just about the best reply in this whole thread. :tup:
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I try to save every bit of deer meat off every animal I get but I am still learning how to process my game more efficiently every year. Let's hope whoever left all that meat on that deer learns to appreciate the gift of this animal's life and try to use the whole animal.
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I try to save every bit of deer meat off every animal I get but I am still learning how to process my game more efficiently every year. Let's hope whoever left all that meat on that deer learns to appreciate the gift of this animal's life and try to use the whole animal.
Do you scrape the meat out of the cheeks? What about the saddle meat that clings to the hide? That's good meat.
I'm just messing with you ;)
Let me be one of the few to say, "I do not take every single useable ounce of meat from a carcass..."
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Nice post Smokepole.
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:yeah:
Indeed, stud buck too.
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Great post, Smokepole and agreed. I took everything off my animal this year including the rib meat. We at the balls, the liver, the heart. Forgot the tongue and I didn't save the hide because my Havalon knife made Swiss cheese out of it. That was a disappointment as it was that really nice reddish-brown young blacktail color. I'll do better next time with the hide.
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Thanks. When I wrote that post, my kids were eating what was left of venison liver & onions dinner. They loved it. I don't think they would go for the nutz. That's one thing I haven't tried. :chuckle:
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Thanks. When I wrote that post, my kids were eating what was left of venison liver & onions dinner. They loved it. I don't think they would go for the nutz. That's one thing I haven't tried. :chuckle:
They're kind of tasteless without breading and deep frying. The key to cooking deer nuts is that you have to start by boiling the pi$$ out of them! Yuk yuk! :chuckle:
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I didn't save the hide because my Havalon knife made Swiss cheese out of it.
Isn't that like telling the officer "I was just driving along when all of a sudden my Chrysler hit the guy in the crosswalk"? :chuckle:
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I didn't save the hide because my Havalon knife made Swiss cheese out of it.
Isn't that like telling the officer "I was just driving along when all of a sudden my Chrysler hit the guy in the crosswalk"? :chuckle:
Yes, it's exactly the same thing.
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I personally got a good look (over multiple days) at the carcass. There was a ton of meat left on it. On one hike, the end of it came out on an old road next to where it lay. Each time I passed it, I got mad. It was laying in full view of the road that passed it. I thought many times about dragging it out of view, just to preserve the image of hunters. But, then again, I wanted people to see how sloppy some are.
The last deer I took out of that area, I used just about every scrap of meat. We process the animal ourselves. We have a bin that even the smallest scrap of meat goes into to make burger into. I use some of the rib meat to make Jerky.
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Good looking animal, Jeep. :tup:
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Not a poached deer - or at least no evidence it was. It was not killed there, somebody dumped the hide and carcass after processing the animal. There is at least a possibility of wastage, it was not unreasonable to call.
It is also not unreasonable for the wildlife officers, in the midst of modern firearms deer season, to not waste a lot of limited resources on a relatively minor offense, with little potential to identify the offender, and no certainty there is a violation. They are chasing much more important calls. Many more potential violations are detected and reported than can be addressed, the officer's decision to triage a call should not be questioned.
I would also suggest that perhaps it is an inexperienced hunter, or possibly self-taught, rather than a slob. Nobody in my family hunted, and I was hunting solo when I killed my first animal (a pronghorn doe). Guess what? I didn't know about the hanging tenderloins, and didn't recognize there was anything there other than fat and drying blood and sinew - they got dumped with the carcass. Pretty funny when I think about the time I spent getting every shred of rib, neck, leg and back meat.
I like the post and discussion, except for the bashing - especially by guys who got cited for a serious poaching crime that someone else legitimately called in, and now think anyone who reports a violation is a snitch. Grow up.
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I blew out a front shoulder this year, I had bone fragments in the meat. I also packed it out. Then when I got home, I was like, why did I bring this home? It's blown out, I got about a pound of meat of the thing and threw it away. I wish I would have left it, it wasn't worth the aggravation.
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I blew out a front shoulder this year, I had bone fragments in the meat. I also packed it out. Then when I got home, I was like, why did I bring this home? It's blown out, I got about a pound of meat of the thing and threw it away. I wish I would have left it, it wasn't worth the aggravation.
Apparently some people eat that stuff
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I blew out a front shoulder this year, I had bone fragments in the meat. I also packed it out. Then when I got home, I was like, why did I bring this home? It's blown out, I got about a pound of meat of the thing and threw it away. I wish I would have left it, it wasn't worth the aggravation.
Apparently some people eat that stuff
That crunchy blood marmalade is actually pretty tasty.
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:yeah:
yea
you can have mine