Post by: HUNTNORTHWEST on October 22, 2014, 11:49:29 PM
Anyway i also bought the fox jack decoy to go with it. I want to put it to action and get some coyotes my only problem is i cant get them to come in. I fiddled with it the other day and did a few stands but little results.
I started with coyote pup distress for the first set for about 15 minutes starting and stopping it every couple of minutes
that yielded nothing.
From here i moved locations over a big canyon and threw on some female long calls and the coyotes woke up and where calling back to me from what sounded like major distances from all around me. Nothing came in.
I moved to some distress calls for the last set with the fox jack on and got nothing to come in.
I feel like im some what close to coyotes but the way im handling the electronic call must be wrong. If anyone has advice on calling sequence or what calls work good for them it would help. Im trying to take some out for the good of the birds as i am an avid quail and pheasant hunter and it would also be a blast to learn predators.
Ive looked on other sites on what calls work for them i just dont know if it pertains to washington. There is a lighting jack call and babie cottontail call on there all sorts of them i think 35 to be exact.
Post by: Bofire on October 23, 2014, 08:54:10 AM
I reccomend about 100 stands then ask again. good luck and keep at it
Carl
Post by: McCRIZZLEY on October 23, 2014, 09:11:06 AM
From what I have heard, this time of the year and for the next few months, distress calls will work wonders. Switch it up, but they are hungry looking for food before winter comes in.
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on October 23, 2014, 09:24:54 AM
Take the wind into consideration not just at your stand, but on your approach as well.
Try starting your calling at a very low volume and slowly increase it. Sometimes critters are a lot closer than you think and blasting out at medium or high volume can send them packing.
I know the predator experts in the videos seem to sit down and have coyotes in their laps in minutes after starting, but it does not hurt to give it more than 15-20 minutes per stand. Especially here on the west side where we can rarely see them coming from any distance.
You have to consider that our local dogs have never read the scripts from or seen any of those videos, so they have no idea they only have 15 mins to get there.
As for calling sequence, maybe get settled in to a stand, then start off with a locator call, just to see if anyone answers. Then move into a distress so it sounds like a stranger has moved into their home range and scored a meal. Plays off their territorial instinct.
One trick to try is once you get settled into a stand, take a mister spray bottle and spray some coyote urine in the air, as both a cover scent and again, playing to their territorial instincts.
Also, later in the year, like Dec - Feb, after they have cleaned-up all the gut piles and any lost animals from hunting seasons, food will be a little harder to come by and they are more readily called in for a free meal.
As a bonus, the hides are generally in better condition if you have any interest in trying to sell them on the fur market or are looking for a nice mount or rug.
Keep at it, have fun and keep us posted...we love seeing those fawn eaters take a dirt nap!!
Post by: HUNTNORTHWEST on October 23, 2014, 09:30:51 AM
Ill be giving it lots of practice. More time in the field means more success.
Post by: motg9_6 on October 23, 2014, 10:22:36 AM
Thanks for some advice i guess its just as hard as work as any other hunting. Those videos you see on tv make it seem easy. I think ill try some scent cover and try not blasting full volume.That's funny right there!!! Guys on TV making It look easy has done absolutely nothing but make it harder for everybody else! Do to the fact everybody thinks the can buy a fox pro sit by a bush and dogs will come running. Not the case at all. I suggest spending some time creaper stalking people on the internet fight out what they are doing then hit a bunch of stands and fight out what works in your area.
Ill be giving it lots of practice. More time in the field means more success.
Post by: Bofire on October 23, 2014, 10:29:25 AM
go hunt
Carl
Post by: AWS on October 23, 2014, 01:32:02 PM
Silent approach to your stand will help a lot also. One hunting trip we went on we had a half inch of rain over 8" of snow and the temp dropped we crunched through crust for 4 days and never called in a coyote. The fifth day we started going back to the same stands and stepping in our old tracks and getting into the stands quietly. We killed 6 in the next 3 days.
Good luck
Post by: Birdguy on October 23, 2014, 03:58:43 PM
Post by: Jingles on October 23, 2014, 04:36:27 PM
This year I'm going to be spending more time night hunting, dusk to dawn
Post by: Jerry malbeck on October 23, 2014, 07:55:06 PM
We never know what the weather and all the other variables will be doing when they show up BUT yet we have to produce.
Think about all the money invested for a show, travel expences, Meals, Fuel,editing ,and tv time.
There are usually four to five guys on a stand with cameras and all .
We make it look easy and casual, we make it happen, Try that for pressure, Makes a normal day of calling pretty easy .
Keep at it and youll become good at calling or you can just give up like most guys do.
You have to have a passion for this and be willing to work your butt off and learn from your mistakes or youll never become good at it .
The guys on this site and many others have become sucessfull because they hit it hard day after day even when the dry spells lasted for weeks or perhaps longer, And ignored the feeling of disapointment and frustration.
The best advice i can give you is this , Spend as much time in the field, on a stand as you can, And learn what works for YOU . Best of luck, Jerry.
Post by: Brownie28 on November 01, 2014, 08:36:31 PM
Post by: JJD on November 30, 2014, 05:24:00 PM
I know one thing for certain, about the only thing you learn from a coyote hunting DVD is what a coyote looks like while being shot or dead.
Some books are pretty good and may give you a good starting point.
I'd say most guys today buy a fancy call after watching a DVD or two, and ruin some pretty good stands by trying to mimic what they have seen watching the DVD's.
As I posted on another thread, these dogs educate very quickly. You can call an area once, maybe twice a year "if" conditions are right. More than that and you have just opened enrollment at coyote University and the song dogs will just sit back and laugh at you (literally).
Scouting is often times the key. Do several hrs of that for every hr you hunt and your luck will likely improve.
Hunting alone is best, Two hunters can make an effective team, any more than that and its cluster **** regardless of what ya see on them DVD's
If the wind is blowing much more than a moderate breeze, stay home, the song dogs over here hate the wind and stay pretty much den'd up until it lightens up. Best time to go is after the wind lets up after 2 or 3 days of heavy wind. The dogs gotta maintain calories to survive when its cold, right after an arctic blast is a great time cuz often times they have been den'd up waiting out a storm and are very hungry when they venture out.
Keep after them and you'll get it. Be a coyote hunter, not a coyote educator.
Post by: jasnt on November 30, 2014, 07:11:43 PM
imo the stand setup is the most important thing to learn. Proper approach, wind,hidden vantage point. Imo which sound is the least important part of the equation.
ps don't miss. :tup:
Post by: JJD on December 01, 2014, 07:01:44 AM
Here's a great read if you want to learn a little more about the coyote. http://www.predatorswest.com/coyote101.py (http://www.predatorswest.com/coyote101.py)Good stuff :tup:
imo the stand setup is the most important thing to learn. Proper approach, wind,hidden vantage point. Imo which sound is the least important part of the equation.
ps don't miss. :tup:
Post by: Payne on December 01, 2014, 09:32:20 PM
tagging
Post by: rynokron on December 04, 2014, 07:17:54 PM
Post by: KFhunter on December 04, 2014, 07:38:53 PM
Just keep playing every sound on your FoxPro at every stand!
:chuckle: