Post by: bigmacc on October 23, 2014, 04:02:50 PM
Post by: jrebel on October 23, 2014, 04:10:55 PM
And you wonder why poaching is out of control. :bash: :bash:
Post by: bigmacc on October 23, 2014, 04:38:26 PM
Post by: fastdam on October 23, 2014, 04:47:10 PM
Now fishing is a different story.........gamies are always present when fishing. Especially when we fish for those nasty little planter trout. I expect to have an encouter the most then.
Post by: jrebel on October 23, 2014, 04:53:20 PM
I havent seen a game warden in 15 years while hunting, and i like it that way. A person should be able to go out and enjoy themselves without being watched and harassed with interogation and illegal searches. There are enough responsible people in the woods to keep anyone else from ruining public resources. Nobody is gonna allow anyone else to single handedly destroy a deer herd or a fish run. Natve harvests are proof of that.
Now fishing is a different story.........gamies are always present when fishing. Especially when we fish for those nasty little planter trout. I expect to have an encouter the most then.
I have never been harassed.......I also don't have to worry about it as I follow the rules and have nothing to hide. Obviously I make this statement with very little experience, I think game wardens are important and purely the thought of running into one will keep most people honest. :twocents:
Post by: bigmacc on October 23, 2014, 04:58:38 PM
I havent seen a game warden in 15 years while hunting, and i like it that way. A person should be able to go out and enjoy themselves without being watched and harassed with interogation and illegal searches. There are enough responsible people in the woods to keep anyone else from ruining public resources. Nobody is gonna allow anyone else to single handedly destroy a deer herd or a fish run. Natve harvests are proof of that.
Now fishing is a different story.........gamies are always present when fishing. Especially when we fish for those nasty little planter trout. I expect to have an encouter the most then.
I have NEVER been harassed or interogated by a warden, If I run into one while in the woods or when they stopped by camp and they asked a few questions I always thaught they were "doing their job", heck if anyone felt harassed in our camp it was probably the wardens,we would want to talk and ask more questions than they did,they probably couldnt wait to make there escape :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: fastdam on October 23, 2014, 05:02:28 PM
Post by: bigmacc on October 23, 2014, 05:06:08 PM
Any encounter where a person is asked to submit to a search of your person, property or papers without prior suspicion of a crime with knowledge of what is to be found in a search and of where it should be is harassment. Just fishing or hunting alone is not suspicious. Activity. Its normal and has been at the core of human activity since the very beginning.
Okie doke.....I have never been searched by a warden or looked upon by one suspiciously,like jrebal said Ive never gave them the reason to :dunno:....Hey,I just want some signs replaced and to make sure this herd stays on the radar :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on October 23, 2014, 05:07:09 PM
But I do recall someone posting a warden in Conconully citing a guy for wounding a two point and leaving it. :twocents:
Post by: bigmacc on October 23, 2014, 05:17:18 PM
I havent seen a game warden in 15 years while hunting, and i like it that way. A person should be able to go out and enjoy themselves without being watched and harassed with interogation and illegal searches. There are enough responsible people in the woods to keep anyone else from ruining public resources. Nobody is gonna allow anyone else to single handedly destroy a deer herd or a fish run. Natve harvests are proof of that.
Now fishing is a different story.........gamies are always present when fishing. Especially when we fish for those nasty little planter trout. I expect to have an encouter the most then.
I have never been harassed.......I also don't have to worry about it as I follow the rules and have nothing to hide. Obviously I make this statement with very little experience, I think game wardens are important and purely the thought of running into one will keep most people honest. :twocents:
Bingo :tup: jrebel
Post by: bowhunterwa87 on October 23, 2014, 05:18:40 PM
Post by: Birdguy on October 23, 2014, 05:49:42 PM
Post by: Bigshooter on October 23, 2014, 06:07:40 PM
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on October 23, 2014, 06:27:22 PM
Post by: Fillbachd on October 23, 2014, 07:06:50 PM
Post by: MtnMuley on October 23, 2014, 07:11:04 PM
Post by: buckfvr on October 23, 2014, 07:15:22 PM
Post by: theshade on October 23, 2014, 07:29:42 PM
Post by: JimmyHoffa on October 23, 2014, 07:36:23 PM
Post by: csaaphill on October 23, 2014, 07:37:40 PM
Sorry but saying it like that tells people that doing things right means you wont be harrased and that simply isn't so!I havent seen a game warden in 15 years while hunting, and i like it that way. A person should be able to go out and enjoy themselves without being watched and harassed with interogation and illegal searches. There are enough responsible people in the woods to keep anyone else from ruining public resources. Nobody is gonna allow anyone else to single handedly destroy a deer herd or a fish run. Natve harvests are proof of that.
Now fishing is a different story.........gamies are always present when fishing. Especially when we fish for those nasty little planter trout. I expect to have an encouter the most then.
I have NEVER been harassed or interogated by a warden, If I run into one while in the woods or when they stopped by camp and they asked a few questions I always thaught they were "doing their job", heck if anyone felt harassed in our camp it was probably the wardens,we would want to talk and ask more questions than they did,they probably couldnt wait to make there escape :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: csaaphill on October 23, 2014, 07:41:03 PM
Not sure I know what to say but that's fine with me ...:yeah:
doesn't bother me a bit seen one lat year and one the year before so ya less is more.
Post by: _TONY_ on October 23, 2014, 07:52:30 PM
One of the wardens that I talked to was from the tacoma area. I don't think it's a lack of priorities, but more if a lack in funding.
If this state were to get rid of the general fund, this wouldn't be an issue.
Post by: bigmacc on October 23, 2014, 07:57:33 PM
Sorry but saying it like that tells people that doing things right means you wont be harrased and that simply isn't so!I havent seen a game warden in 15 years while hunting, and i like it that way. A person should be able to go out and enjoy themselves without being watched and harassed with interogation and illegal searches. There are enough responsible people in the woods to keep anyone else from ruining public resources. Nobody is gonna allow anyone else to single handedly destroy a deer herd or a fish run. Natve harvests are proof of that.
Now fishing is a different story.........gamies are always present when fishing. Especially when we fish for those nasty little planter trout. I expect to have an encouter the most then.
I have NEVER been harassed or interogated by a warden, If I run into one while in the woods or when they stopped by camp and they asked a few questions I always thaught they were "doing their job", heck if anyone felt harassed in our camp it was probably the wardens,we would want to talk and ask more questions than they did,they probably couldnt wait to make there escape :chuckle: :chuckle:
I will only speak for myself, I have been hunting for 52 years, I,ve never been harassed by a game warden. So, it "is so" for me......Can I pleeeease get some signs replaced :chuckle: :chuckle:..I got a feeling I,m gonna have to replace them myself :chuckle:
Post by: rickomatic on October 23, 2014, 08:00:55 PM
Post by: Brad Harshman on October 23, 2014, 08:35:51 PM
I havent seen a game warden in 15 years while hunting, and i like it that way. A person should be able to go out and enjoy themselves without being watched and harassed with interogation and illegal searches. There are enough responsible people in the woods to keep anyone else from ruining public resources. Nobody is gonna allow anyone else to single handedly destroy a deer herd or a fish run. Natve harvests are proof of that.
Now fishing is a different story.........gamies are always present when fishing. Especially when we fish for those nasty little planter trout. I expect to have an encouter the most then.
Sorry but I disagree. There are not enough good honest hunters to prevent the trash people from ruining it for the rest of us. Look around. Public lands are getting trashed, reaources/game are dwindling. A good litmus test is getting access to private lands. Too many jack wagons, too many jack wagons.
Don't get me wrong there are plenty of good guys but its not enough to offset the trash.
Post by: longrangehunter338 on October 23, 2014, 08:46:58 PM
Post by: bigmacc on October 23, 2014, 09:04:26 PM
For sure need more forest service, game and fish, law enforcement out there. People get pissed if some guy calls them out for doing some wrong. I for one would like to see more out there. Buying a hunting license means you submit to license checks by wardens. If you have a problem with that, dont hunt. It is far from harassment and interrogation.
:tup:
Post by: bigmacc on October 23, 2014, 09:05:44 PM
I havent seen a game warden in 15 years while hunting, and i like it that way. A person should be able to go out and enjoy themselves without being watched and harassed with interogation and illegal searches. There are enough responsible people in the woods to keep anyone else from ruining public resources. Nobody is gonna allow anyone else to single handedly destroy a deer herd or a fish run. Natve harvests are proof of that.
Now fishing is a different story.........gamies are always present when fishing. Especially when we fish for those nasty little planter trout. I expect to have an encouter the most then.
Sorry but I disagree. There are not enough good honest hunters to prevent the trash people from ruining it for the rest of us. Look around. Public lands are getting trashed, reaources/game are dwindling. A good litmus test is getting access to private lands. Too many jack wagons, too many jack wagons.
Don't get me wrong there are plenty of good guys but its not enough to offset the trash.
:tup: :tup:
Post by: Ddouble on October 24, 2014, 04:24:23 PM
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on October 24, 2014, 04:29:28 PM
I had an interaction today and it was a fantastic experience. I had my 6yrd old with me and he was "deputized" and given a gold plastic junior wardens Sheriffs badge it just added to a fantastic first day out hunting with Dad. I think the warden was impressed that my boy knew we could only shoot Daddy deer no Mommy deer.
Thats a cool way to let the little guy know wardens are good people too. :tup:
Post by: hoyt2002 on October 24, 2014, 04:56:14 PM
Post by: longrangehunter338 on October 24, 2014, 06:10:24 PM
http://www.gohunt.com/read/gruesome-acts-of-poaching-in-colorado (http://www.gohunt.com/read/gruesome-acts-of-poaching-in-colorado)
Post by: ghosthunter on October 24, 2014, 06:32:14 PM
Muzzy elk this year 1712 road in 342 , two wardens screamed by our camp with lights flashing up the mountain. No word what where they were going.
Deer camp Twisp this year. Intersection of Little Bridge Creek and 4410 rd.
Check point three wardens and one sheriff. Stoping all hunters.
Post by: Alchase on October 24, 2014, 09:15:58 PM
Since Jim retired, I have not had the opportunity to meet any of his replacements.
Post by: JimmyHoffa on October 25, 2014, 07:11:36 PM
Last year our Twisp Camp we had two west side agents stop in and check our papers.I saw a warden today and he had all the stuff for a checkpoint and was already driving off. Just down from him were a sheriff's deputy and two FS rangers.
Muzzy elk this year 1712 road in 342 , two wardens screamed by our camp with lights flashing up the mountain. No word what where they were going.
Deer camp Twisp this year. Intersection of Little Bridge Creek and 4410 rd.
Check point three wardens and one sheriff. Stoping all hunters.
Post by: bigtex on October 25, 2014, 07:19:52 PM
I remember past years where they had forest service people deputized and helping out on some infractions,they would even have checkpoints set up to check for loaded rifles,check lic.etc,etc.
Forest Service Law Enforcement Officers have federal authority to enforce state fish and wildlife laws thru the federal court system. They don't need the state's permission and need to be deputized. Additionally, some states then give some federal agencies the authority to enforce state fish and wildlife laws through the state court system. Examples of these states include WA, Idaho, Montana, and Colorado
Post by: bigtex on October 25, 2014, 07:21:51 PM
I don't know what ownership of land you are on, but when there are two USFS leo's covering millions of acres doing the duties 8 should/would normally do, they don't have time to focus on that. Thank the governments budget cuts.And it will be getting worse. The USFS Law Enforcement budget will be/is getting cut another 15% nationwide in 2015. We are almost at the point where half of the USFS LEO positions in WA are vacant and there are no plans to fill them anytime soon.
Post by: bigmacc on October 25, 2014, 08:40:54 PM
I don't know what ownership of land you are on, but when there are two USFS leo's covering millions of acres doing the duties 8 should/would normally do, they don't have time to focus on that. Thank the governments budget cuts.And it will be getting worse. The USFS Law Enforcement budget will be/is getting cut another 15% nationwide in 2015. We are almost at the point where half of the USFS LEO positions in WA are vacant and there are no plans to fill them anytime soon.
Thanks bigtex,sad situation IMHO.