Post by: Skillet on October 27, 2014, 04:14:42 PM
Post by: bingman on October 27, 2014, 07:19:56 PM
Post by: h2ofowlr on October 27, 2014, 07:39:35 PM
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on October 27, 2014, 07:41:38 PM
Post by: HunterStrait on October 27, 2014, 07:42:24 PM
I wonder if hes still good to eat.
Post by: Timberstalker on October 27, 2014, 07:46:13 PM
Post by: bingman on October 27, 2014, 07:55:40 PM
Post by: h2ofowlr on October 27, 2014, 08:07:26 PM
That's an old picture
This is the one that has been going around all day!
Post by: Skillet on October 27, 2014, 08:14:58 PM
Got that pic from a co-worker this afternoon who said it was HIS buddy that caught the fish... so, tomorrow should be fun :chuckle:That's an old picture
This is the one that has been going around all day!
Post by: bingman on October 27, 2014, 08:17:59 PM
Post by: Skillet on October 27, 2014, 08:22:26 PM
Post by: bingman on October 27, 2014, 08:29:44 PM
Post by: Skillet on October 27, 2014, 08:47:18 PM
Post by: bankwalker on October 28, 2014, 07:48:36 AM
Post by: RELV on October 28, 2014, 06:33:39 PM
Oh the memories.
Post by: Angus on October 30, 2014, 07:57:40 PM
The girlfriend of the guy in the picture posted the story on a Facebook fishing group I admin on. The fish was 4'11" long and weighed 70+ (guess). "Caught" a few years ago, pulled from a net.
The world record 97.4lbs. king was 58 inches, I've seen an 84 and 79lbs kings that were 53 and 54 inches, doubt this Skagit fish is longer then all these that weighed considerably more.
Post by: singleshot12 on October 31, 2014, 11:08:32 AM
Post by: WSU on October 31, 2014, 11:10:48 AM
Post by: MtnMuley on October 31, 2014, 01:31:25 PM
Awesome fish. It's a shame to see it killed. I won't kill any king over 30. I'd rather they spawn and make more big kings.
Agreed. It's a shame to see big walleye killed. I won't kill any walleye over 10. I'd rather they spawn and make more walleye.
Post by: Birdguy on October 31, 2014, 06:12:24 PM
Post by: Angus on October 31, 2014, 11:01:27 PM
That fish is amazing no matter how many times I look at it, it just blows me away. To bad we do not have rivers full of them anymore. I just picture my son hooking into something like that and smile, too cool.
The Columbia before the dams (1937) used to put the Kenai to shame for kings like that and bigger, the Elwha had a pretty good reputation as well. :bash:
Post by: GEARHEAD on November 02, 2014, 07:46:38 AM
Post by: Jonathan_S on November 02, 2014, 08:28:35 AM
My first King was estimated at 40#, I was only 12 so I couldn't tell you. Anyway, we released it and I was proud of that.
Post by: Kc_Kracker on November 04, 2014, 02:22:05 PM
Post by: C-Money on November 04, 2014, 02:27:35 PM
Post by: RB on November 04, 2014, 03:03:09 PM
This fish in this post was from 2 years ago, net caught. The world record rod n reel caught is les anderson 97 lbs, but its not the biggest. These are all over 100, 2 in the 120's, all from oregon.
Just imagine how much these fish must have eaten to get this big! They had to have gorged on schools of Herring and big sardines around the clock for a few years, good lord they could have eaten 10 pound salmon for that matter.
Post by: Jonathan_S on November 04, 2014, 03:29:17 PM
That's be crazy to see those big fat hawgs trying to catch some 10 lb silvers.
Post by: GEARHEAD on November 04, 2014, 04:39:15 PM
Post by: fastdam on November 04, 2014, 06:32:21 PM
Post by: eggster on December 02, 2014, 06:55:07 PM
That monster strain of skagit kings is pretty much extinct now thanks to the nets. That pic right there was prob the last one. WHAT A SHAME.exactly.
Post by: floatinghat on December 02, 2014, 09:04:43 PM
Awesome fish. It's a shame to see it killed. I won't kill any king over 30. I'd rather they spawn and make more big kings.
Agreed. It's a shame to see big walleye killed. I won't kill any walleye over 10. I'd rather they spawn and make more walleye.
Only thing it's my understanding Walleye aren't native and eat native fish.
Post by: gotcha on December 06, 2014, 03:30:14 PM
Post by: _TONY_ on December 06, 2014, 04:54:27 PM
Amen to not killing anything bigger than 30. Have more fun watching them swim away. Friends hate it but oh well. In my boat they swim.
:tup:
Post by: huntnphool on December 09, 2014, 11:55:17 PM
Post by: _TONY_ on December 10, 2014, 08:18:50 AM
Some of the largest salmon used to come from the Elwa system many years ago. They are hoping to revive this fishery but have not heard how the dam removal strategy is going. :dunno:
The dam is gone and the river is free flowing... I doubt that those 100+ pound genetics are still swimming around in the Elwa like they used to.
Post by: singleshot12 on December 10, 2014, 11:41:30 AM
Post by: wildmanoutdoors on December 10, 2014, 02:01:08 PM
Some of the largest salmon used to come from the Elwa system many years ago. They are hoping to revive this fishery but have not heard how the dam removal strategy is going. :dunno:
The dam is gone and the river is free flowing... I doubt that those 100+ pound genetics are still swimming around in the Elwa like they used to.
They have those genetics froze at he hatchery still to this day. They will try to get a strain going using the massive native genetics. Its all part of the plan.
There are stories of the mosquito fleet trading with the Klallam tribe for 100 pound plus Kings.
One of only 3 or 4 rivers in history to ever have that big of King Salmon.
Post by: wildmanoutdoors on December 10, 2014, 02:03:47 PM
Those big wild genetics are gone and gone forever in all the rivers I can think of.
The Skeena still produces Kings to 80ish, and Im sure there are a few bigger ones in the mix.
Whats funny is the little Kispiox still produces many in the 50 ish class in June. Coarse Ive seen 40 pound Steelies there so it dosent surprise me.
Post by: WSU on December 10, 2014, 02:35:58 PM
Post by: wildmanoutdoors on December 10, 2014, 02:37:12 PM
Another hard part about big fish keeping them alive in the ocean for 5 or 6 years without getting netted, troll caught, or sport caught in Alaska and BC. That's a long time to survive all the fishing pressure.
For sure. And these gigantic Kings go 8 years in the ocean even.
Post by: WSU on December 10, 2014, 02:40:13 PM
Another hard part about big fish keeping them alive in the ocean for 5 or 6 years without getting netted, troll caught, or sport caught in Alaska and BC. That's a long time to survive all the fishing pressure.
For sure. And these gigantic Kings go 8 years in the ocean even.
For the real big ones. I'm referring to just normal real big ones!
Post by: singleshot12 on December 10, 2014, 02:51:44 PM
Another hard part about big fish keeping them alive in the ocean for 5 or 6 years without getting netted, troll caught, or sport caught in Alaska and BC. That's a long time to survive all the fishing pressure.
For sure. And these gigantic Kings go 8 years in the ocean even.
8 years wow!
I would some day like to see triploid kings. Could you imagine? But then again they too would subccumb to the ocean nets before reaching their 200+ lb. potential.
Post by: Dhoey07 on December 10, 2014, 03:13:06 PM
Another hard part about big fish keeping them alive in the ocean for 5 or 6 years without getting netted, troll caught, or sport caught in Alaska and BC. That's a long time to survive all the fishing pressure.
For sure. And these gigantic Kings go 8 years in the ocean even.
8 years wow!
I would some day like to see triploid kings. Could you imagine? But then again they too would subccumb to the ocean nets before reaching their 200+ lb. potential.
I heard that there are sterile kings in lake coeur d'alene
Post by: Skillet on December 10, 2014, 03:19:12 PM
http://m.spokesman.com/stories/1997/aug/14/derby-spokesman-laments-poor-fishing-debate/ (http://m.spokesman.com/stories/1997/aug/14/derby-spokesman-laments-poor-fishing-debate/)
Post by: Dhoey07 on December 10, 2014, 03:32:18 PM
Unless something has changed, they're not sterile. They fish for them in front of my uncle's cabin there all the time. In fact, a number of years ago the Idaho fish and game was searching out their redds on theCoeur D'AleneSt. Joe river and destroying them.
http://m.spokesman.com/stories/1997/aug/14/derby-spokesman-laments-poor-fishing-debate/ (http://m.spokesman.com/stories/1997/aug/14/derby-spokesman-laments-poor-fishing-debate/)
IDFG heat shocked some of the eggs they collected to make the fish sterile. Not sure when they started this or if they still do but here is a report from IDFG in 1995. Page 21
https://collaboration.idfg.idaho.gov/FisheriesTechnicalReports/Mgt95-39Maiolie1996%20Regional%20Fisheries%20Management%20Investigations%20Panhandle%20Region.pdf
Post by: Dhoey07 on December 10, 2014, 03:41:47 PM
http://www.bdoutdoors.com/forums/threads/chinook-in-chelan.140156/ (http://www.bdoutdoors.com/forums/threads/chinook-in-chelan.140156/)
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on December 10, 2014, 04:00:28 PM
Post by: singleshot12 on December 10, 2014, 04:11:14 PM
Post by: buckcanyonlodge on December 10, 2014, 04:25:56 PM
If i remember right, back in 92 or 93, it was reported that Bonniville had a fish go thru, that they estimated to be in the 90 to 100 pound range. Vernita was a big deal back then, with very big fish, but not that big. People estimated maybe 10 to 14 days for the fish to Vernita. It was a zoo of people at Vernita trying to get this unconfirmed fish, i was one of them.
I was down there then also. I did catch a big buck that was 54 inches long.. What a fight ..what a fish...Never weighed it.
Post by: _TONY_ on December 10, 2014, 06:30:41 PM
Those big wild genetics are gone and gone forever in all the rivers I can think of.
The Skeena still produces Kings to 80ish, and Im sure there are a few bigger ones in the mix.
Whats funny is the little Kispiox still produces many in the 50 ish class in June. Coarse Ive seen 40 pound Steelies there so it dosent surprise me.
Indeed it does.When was the last time you fished the Kispiox, or Skeena? I try and fish it every year... Well exept this year of coarse :bash: still haven't laid eyes on any 40's up there yet, but seen and hooked and lost a couple that we think were close.
Post by: JimmyHoffa on December 10, 2014, 06:48:54 PM
looked like chocolate flowing down the last couple days. They just got a grant for the tribe to do some restoration work on Little River. But the big kings don't live in that stretch. The big ones go up in the park and have to be of a bigger size to get through Goblin Gates. I'd imagine that after a few generations there will be enough fish are big enough to get through the canyon that they'll spawn with each other enough to bring out the real big fish genes again.Some of the largest salmon used to come from the Elwa system many years ago. They are hoping to revive this fishery but have not heard how the dam removal strategy is going. :dunno:
The dam is gone and the river is free flowing... I doubt that those 100+ pound genetics are still swimming around in the Elwa like they used to.
Also, this summer with all the sediment making a new beach last couple years, the smelt showed up (thought to be virtually extinct) and they have had a big bounce back, huge schools at the mouth most summer/fall.
Post by: Remnar on December 10, 2014, 07:16:41 PM
I dont think a triploid would be a good idea unless they were in a closed system i.e a lake . Other wise most of them would just hang out in the ocean and eat competing with other fish until they died . And they would eat ALOT !Another hard part about big fish keeping them alive in the ocean for 5 or 6 years without getting netted, troll caught, or sport caught in Alaska and BC. That's a long time to survive all the fishing pressure.
For sure. And these gigantic Kings go 8 years in the ocean even.
8 years wow!
I would some day like to see triploid kings. Could you imagine? But then again they too would subccumb to the ocean nets before reaching their 200+ lb. potential.
Post by: singleshot12 on December 12, 2014, 05:40:25 PM
I dont think a triploid would be a good idea unless they were in a closed system i.e a lake . Other wise most of them would just hang out in the ocean and eat competing with other fish until they died . And they would eat ALOT !Another hard part about big fish keeping them alive in the ocean for 5 or 6 years without getting netted, troll caught, or sport caught in Alaska and BC. That's a long time to survive all the fishing pressure.
For sure. And these gigantic Kings go 8 years in the ocean even.
8 years wow!
I would some day like to see triploid kings. Could you imagine? But then again they too would subccumb to the ocean nets before reaching their 200+ lb. potential.
Maybe not,unless they could come up with ones which stayed resident in the sound. Either way I don't think a few released would hurt anything. It would sure create a much needed unique fishing opportunity :twocents:
Post by: jeepster on December 13, 2014, 12:34:01 AM
Yeah, thank the indians for those fish never returning, what a great buncha conservationists they are
Post by: huntnphool on December 13, 2014, 06:37:14 PM
Those big wild genetics are gone and gone forever in all the rivers I can think of.
The Skeena still produces Kings to 80ish, and Im sure there are a few bigger ones in the mix.
Whats funny is the little Kispiox still produces many in the 50 ish class in June. Coarse Ive seen 40 pound Steelies there so it dosent surprise me.
Kispiox has good steelhead genes as well. http://www.fishwithjd.com/2014/11/21/10-mind-blowing-giant-steelhead/ (http://www.fishwithjd.com/2014/11/21/10-mind-blowing-giant-steelhead/)
My buddy George Rose is in this group as well. :tup:
Post by: JJB11B on December 13, 2014, 07:20:49 PM
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on December 17, 2014, 06:34:19 PM
There are no salmon in the columbia, that is a myth
That is the truth right there! The only salmon left are in the Snohomish system... :tup: