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Title: low visibility
Post by: Fishaholic on October 29, 2014, 10:29:09 AM: Any advice on fishing murky water i can see about a foot and thats itall the fish i have been catching have been in clear water off beads or corkies and yarn. Anything will help I'm watching then jump aand i can't get them to bite................ Its a horrific day. haha

thanks
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Title: Re: low visibility
Post by: WSU on October 29, 2014, 10:47:55 AM: Keep flossing like you have been!
Title: Re: low visibility
Post by: HarboritE on October 29, 2014, 11:38:09 AM: Are you a flosser? If so I have 0 advice for you and you will have a hard time catching anything but salmon. Try drifting big glob of eggs close to the bank, let it sit at the end of the drift. Fish will travel close to the bank in high colored water where the current is slightly slower. If the current isnt too bad try bigger bright spinners our eggs under a float
Title: Re: low visibility
Post by: Fishaholic on October 29, 2014, 11:57:44 AM: Quote from: WSU on October 29, 2014, 10:47:55 AM
Keep flossing like you have been!

So what makes me a flosser? I never said anything other then i use beads and corkies........ So why would you assume I am a flosser
Title: Re: low visibility
Post by: JimmyHoffa on October 29, 2014, 12:04:58 PM: might fish the mouths of the inlet streams that have cleared up. The fish will sometimes hide in those until the main river is good again. Also might try bait--for kings and some silvers, you can get spawn sac and fill it with tuna-in-oil from the grocery store. The cans are like 50 cents, and you can eat it too.
Title: Re: low visibility
Post by: Fishaholic on October 29, 2014, 12:52:42 PM: Quote from: JimmyHoffa on October 29, 2014, 12:04:58 PM
might fish the mouths of the inlet streams that have cleared up. The fish will sometimes hide in those until the main river is good again. Also might try bait--for kings and some silvers, you can get spawn sac and fill it with tuna-in-oil from the grocery store. The cans are like 50 cents, and you can eat it too.

Is the tuna thing legal? That's like tying a chum bag to a hook... lols
Title: Re: low visibility
Post by: HarboritE on October 29, 2014, 01:03:05 PM: Most people using only corky and yarn, with no bait or other attractant are known to be flossers, though they do occasionally bite it. That was an assumtion based off what you said you were using :dunno: that said it looks like you're new to fishing this area and just trying to learn the ropes. With darker water you want something they can see and smell easier. Good luck! :tup: and yes bait Sacs attached to your line is legal!
Title: Re: low visibility
Post by: WSU on October 29, 2014, 02:30:28 PM: Quote from: Fishaholic on October 29, 2014, 11:57:44 AM
Quote from: WSU on October 29, 2014, 10:47:55 AM
Keep flossing like you have been!

So what makes me a flosser? I never said anything other then i use beads and corkies........ So why would you assume I am a flosser

I am assuming you are flossing because 99% of the salmon caught on beads are likely flossed. Same for a bare corky. Sure, some bite a plain corky, but 99% don't. It may very well be that you don't know better and are new to salmon fishing. There is no shame in that as long as you are willing to learn. Many of us have been there, especially if we had to learn on our own.

To answer your question, fish something like a big glob of eggs. Tuna ball can be a great addition (or tuna belly, sand shrimp, prawn, etc.). Also, see ODH's posts if you want to know how floss in off-color water.
Title: Re: low visibility
Post by: Fishaholic on October 29, 2014, 04:39:36 PM: This is what i use. i been floating them under a float and drifting i my eggs are done now so i am going to try eggs and the tuna.
Title: Re: low visibility
Post by: bankwalker on October 29, 2014, 07:29:03 PM: 99% are flossed because that's the technique people use.....it has nothing to do with what they are using, it's how they use it......salmon and steelhead bite corkie/yarn/beads just like they bite spinners/spoons/plugs/bait......saying they don't or wont bite corkies or beads is dumb.

If you are fishing murky water fish something with some form of attractant. Scent or sound. I fish spinners alot in cloudy water (less than 3ft, more than 1ft) then when clarity decreases to less than 1ft I switch to bait.

Yesterday I did quite well with cerise/purple twitching jigs in water with about 2ft of viz.
Title: Re: low visibility
Post by: hunt_fish on October 29, 2014, 07:42:56 PM: Quote from: bankwalker on October 29, 2014, 07:29:03 PM
99% are flossed because that's the technique people use.....it has nothing to do with what they are using, it's how they use it......salmon and steelhead bite corkie/yarn/beads just like they bite spinners/spoons/plugs/bait......saying they don't or wont bite corkies or beads is dumb.

If you are fishing murky water fish something with some form of attractant. Scent or sound. I fish spinners alot in cloudy water (less than 3ft, more than 1ft) then when clarity decreases to less than 1ft I switch to bait.

Yesterday I did quite well with cerise/purple twitching jigs in water with about 2ft of viz.

Yeah I find it funny people think salmon will bite a jig that's twitched or under a float but they won't bite if its a corky and yarn off the bottom. It's pretty much the same dang setup except off the bottom. But like others have said fish closer to the bank, that's where they'll be laying.
Title: Re: low visibility
Post by: RadSav on October 29, 2014, 08:07:48 PM: I also agree with the close to shore when water has low visibility. I also use just a little more weight to slow the drift if using corkies. Small spin-n-glows in place of the corkies can help fish find your lure faster too. As said earlier, letting it sit at the end of the drift for a few seconds is very effective.

Cod liver oil works well in low vis water too. My go to stuff has been Desitin Original Paste...yep diaper rash treatment. Not as good as it used to be but salmon still seem to smack it pretty good. It seems to stick to the yarn better than most other scent products and I like the white milky look it adds to the presentation.

If you have been doing up eggs yourself I suggest modifications for springer and fall fish. We always run Sweet spring and summer then run Salty Cray fall and winter. Dang hard to over do either one. Just remember not to use iodized salt for those. Pickling and kosher work fine. I like Pro-Cures crayfish/anise added if steelhead is also on the menu.
Title: Re: low visibility
Post by: HarboritE on October 29, 2014, 09:13:12 PM: Have you ever tried plunking? I have been doing really well using a 4or 5 oz weight on a slider on the mainline, bead, and sturdy snap swivel. Then 3-4 ft leader with a big spinglo and double hook setup with eggs or sand shrimp, or both. Experiment with different scents too. I run 20 lb main with 15 lb leader. When the water is high and on the drop this is extremely effective. If you are in tide water fish slack low through incoming tide. Ive caught fish in really muddy fast water like this, whenusually no one else is fishing.
Title: Re: low visibility
Post by: BigGoonTuna on October 30, 2014, 07:11:18 AM: if i've got no choice but to fish dirty water, i "dredge". heavy tackle, usually drift gear set up with a slinky to get a really slow drift along the seams where fish will likely be. i always use a large spin glo or birdy drifter with bait in these situations. you want to get their attention!
Title: Re: low visibility
Post by: WSU on October 30, 2014, 07:52:24 AM: I never said they won't bite corkies, yarn, or beads. They do. But, 99% of the people fishing those methods are flossing. Many don't know they are. If he's fishing under a float, it's unlikely he's trying to floss. My assumption appears to be wrong.

Lots of good advise here. If you don't have eggs, sand shrimp work well. Prawns work too. Hardware works well for silvers, which should be abundant in your area for another month.