Post by: bearpaw on November 06, 2014, 04:30:47 AM
Wolves Stalked, Surrounded, and Attacked Stevens County Hunter
Myself, dad, and three other family members were elk hunting near Smackout Pass in GMU 111 Aladdin on the morning of Oct 30. Dad and I separated a hundred yards or so and hunted down a ridge and planned to meet the other family members at the bottom of the ridge.
There was heavy cover and sight distance was limited. As I went through a small opening I spotted a black wolf that was watching me and paralleling me on my left at about 15 yards. I hollered at the wolf and it just kept watching me, and paralleling me, I hollered and waved my arms but it didn't retreat, next I shot over it's head and it finally disappeared. Then another wolf came up from behind on my left and disappeared behind the first wolf. Then I heard something on my right and saw a couple more wolves appear from behind me on the right, I reloaded and backed up 10-15 steps, suddenly I heard another noise behind me and thought it must be dad approaching, I turned around and was faced by another black wolf that was charging straight at me with it's ears laid back, I instinctively pulled up and shot, I hit the wolf hard at about 15 yards and it rolled about 20 feet snarling and biting at it's shoulder, then disappeared into the brush.
I called my other family members with the hand radio I was carrying and warned them about the wolves and that I would meet them in the bottom. As I continued down the ridge I could hear the wolves moving with me about 50 yards away. I met my other family members and as I told them what had happened the wolves all started howling in the brush below us not far away.
I was raised in Idaho and have lived around wolves but this scared the **** out of me worse than anything that has ever happened to me, I have never been that terrified. These wolves had the wind in their face as they approached me from behind, they could smell me and were obviously tracking me as they approached me, I was being hunted by these wolves, they were intent on eating me. Even after shooting at one wolf the other wolf attacked, I am just lucky I heard it coming as it charged.
I called WDFW and reported what happened. At about 11 am the next day several wardens and biologists went with me to the location where the attack occurred. They looked around a bit and found a piece of hide and meat, but a little searching did not produce the wolf and they quit searching.
I guarantee that the situation in Stevens County is far worse than I've seen in Idaho. The elk and moose are disappearing from many areas I hunt, normally I see at least 15 moose every fall, this fall I have not seen a single live moose and the elk numbers are way down too. Something must be done about these wolves soon before somebody gets hurt, the situation in Stevens County and northeast Washington is out of control.
(the hunter wants people to know that these wolves will hunt and attack people but wishes to remain anonymous to avoid harassment by wolf supporters)
Post by: Jonathan_S on November 06, 2014, 04:46:26 AM
I am glad nobody got killed...yet.
Thank heavens the guy had fast reflex.
Post by: fastdam on November 06, 2014, 05:00:18 AM
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Post by: Skyvalhunter on November 06, 2014, 05:30:21 AM
Post by: jasnt on November 06, 2014, 05:39:52 AM
Post by: Skyvalhunter on November 06, 2014, 05:45:36 AM
http://www.king5.com/videos/tech/science/environment/2014/11/06/15997490/ (http://www.king5.com/videos/tech/science/environment/2014/11/06/15997490/)
Post by: Bango skank on November 06, 2014, 05:53:19 AM
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Post by: pianoman9701 on November 06, 2014, 06:05:00 AM
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Post by: Bango skank on November 06, 2014, 06:11:56 AM
It is sad, but I bet things will change faster when the wolves encounter an unarmed person.....your imagination can finish that thought. There is a reason our forefathers removed them.
Even if there were 5 separate incidents of wolves killing people in the next month, in different areas with different packs involved, the majority of wolf supporters would flat out deny, argue, make excuses etc. They would continue to defend the wolves. These people are irrational beyond belief.
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on November 06, 2014, 06:16:29 AM
It is sad, but I bet things will change faster when the wolves encounter an unarmed person.....your imagination can finish that thought. There is a reason our forefathers removed them.
:yeah:
Post by: pianoman9701 on November 06, 2014, 06:20:52 AM
It is sad, but I bet things will change faster when the wolves encounter an unarmed person.....your imagination can finish that thought. There is a reason our forefathers removed them.
But they're so cuddly and cute. Conservation NW brings them around to the schools and the kids all pet and hug them. How can they be bad? :puke:
Post by: buckfvr on November 06, 2014, 06:44:01 AM
Post by: Bean Counter on November 06, 2014, 06:47:26 AM
I just cant understand why he didnt shoot more of the wolves when they were all around him. They were clearly aggressive. He was armed. Why not shoot them all till they were out of sight. Glad he's ok. Too many people letting wolves walk in my opinion.
I would have shot them all
Post by: bhawley76 on November 06, 2014, 06:56:33 AM
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Post by: HunterStrait on November 06, 2014, 07:06:58 AM
Post by: woodswalker on November 06, 2014, 07:09:50 AM
It would be sweet if one of you guys knew how to capture them and train them to eat the liberals in Washington state :twocents:. That is a good use for them, but I have a feeling liberals don't taste good.
You would starve the poor wolves to death, once you get all the BS out of most of them...nothing left but skin, bones and hair. And a lingering patchouli scent... :yike:
Post by: jrebel on November 06, 2014, 07:10:53 AM
The hunter followed the law, he only shot the wolf that actually attacked.
Couldn't there be a strong argument that all were trying to attack as they surrounded him and clearly stalked him in heavy cover. Even after the one of shot they stayed within 50 yards.....doesn't this again show an imminent threat. They clearly are not afraid of the gunshot and they were clearly still hunting the guy.
With the above said I think he would have been justified shooting them until they vacated the area or lay dead in a heaping pile of wolf.
Very scary....that these animals will not change zip codes after one is shot. Glad the hunter came out alive and uninjured. My guess is will only be out the cost of one round and a set of underwear.
Post by: TommyH on November 06, 2014, 07:22:25 AM
Not surprised this happened tho. Only a matter of time until it gets real ugly and someone is attacked or ripped to shreads. :bash:
Post by: Special T on November 06, 2014, 07:40:44 AM
Post by: Fl0und3rz on November 06, 2014, 07:42:54 AM
Post by: antlerman on November 06, 2014, 07:44:13 AM
This is his account of what happened as told to me by the hunter himself:
Wolves Stalked, Surrounded, and Attacked Stevens County Hunter
I guarantee that the situation in Stevens County is far worse than I've seen in Idaho. The elk and moose are disappearing from many areas I hunt, normally I see at least 15 moose every fall, this fall I have not seen a single live moose and the elk numbers are way down too. Something must be done about these wolves soon before somebody gets hurt, the situation in Stevens County and northeast Washington is out of control.
(the hunter wants people to know that these wolves will hunt and attack people but wishes to remain anonymous to avoid harassment by wolf supporters)
I don't see as many moose or deer in the area that I used to see compared to the last 10 years. I spend a good deal of time in the woods (above the valley bottoms) in this part of the state. It is almost an eerie feeling in the woods now days!
Post by: ELKBURGER on November 06, 2014, 07:51:50 AM
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Post by: brianmtsinc on November 06, 2014, 07:53:48 AM
Thank God he heard that wolf coming... I can't imagine .... :yike: :yike:
Post by: CAMPMEAT on November 06, 2014, 08:00:09 AM
Post by: carver52 on November 06, 2014, 09:00:39 AM
Post by: jasnt on November 06, 2014, 09:11:07 AM
This is his account of what happened as told to me by the hunter himself:
Wolves Stalked, Surrounded, and Attacked Stevens County Hunter
I guarantee that the situation in Stevens County is far worse than I've seen in Idaho. The elk and moose are disappearing from many areas I hunt, normally I see at least 15 moose every fall, this fall I have not seen a single live moose and the elk numbers are way down too. Something must be done about these wolves soon before somebody gets hurt, the situation in Stevens County and northeast Washington is out of control.
(the hunter wants people to know that these wolves will hunt and attack people but wishes to remain anonymous to avoid harassment by wolf supporters)
I don't see as many moose or deer in the area that I used to see compared to the last 10 years. I spend a good deal of time in the woods (above the valley bottoms) in this part of the state. It is almost an eerie feeling in the woods now days!
I agree. Just spent 9 days in the Selkirk's. We saw 3 grouce and 2 deer. It was like the woods were empty. We hunted every direction from camp putting 4-8 miles on our boots a day. I've never not jumped deer in this area before. Everyone we talked to said the same. Talked to the warden on day one of our hunt. We were in his camp from archery season. He said he had not seen any game in the drainage since September 3rd. I just assumed he didn't leave his truck much. Empty woods!
Post by: lokidog on November 06, 2014, 09:14:09 AM
Post by: Spuddieselwwu on November 06, 2014, 09:22:21 AM
Post by: KFhunter on November 06, 2014, 10:10:18 AM
Eventually all of us will have a wolf encounter like this person has. If we don't then great, but we'd better plan on having something similar happen. We really need to hunt these wolves.
I also like the way the person in this case kept his anonymity :tup:
Post by: idahohuntr on November 06, 2014, 10:34:52 AM
The notion that all outdoorsmen or hunters should expect an encounter like this are way off base from reality. Like other dangerous wildlife, it is always possible and something to consider.
Post by: KFhunter on November 06, 2014, 10:43:41 AM
I think this story serves a great public service...it puts to bed the notion that a hunter or any person can't defend themselves without reasonable fear of prosecution. If any person/animal threatens you with physical harm/death you are absolutely justified in defending yourself and it should be really clear that WDFW is not hell bent on finding a way to crucify you for taking such action with dangerous wildlife.
The notion that all outdoorsmen or hunters should expect an encounter like this are way off base from reality. Like other dangerous wildlife, it is always possible and something to consider.
You've said before you don't pack a handgun while you're archery hunting; I ask you to reconsider that notion. You could have really been hurt is this was you in this story.
People really do need to be armed in the woods now more than ever before.
Post by: wildmanoutdoors on November 06, 2014, 10:52:08 AM
Post by: idahohuntr on November 06, 2014, 11:07:12 AM
I appreciate your concern for my safety. I assure you if this were me in the story i would not have a handgun on my person...I just don't carry one when I am hunting with a centerfire rifle. :yike:I think this story serves a great public service...it puts to bed the notion that a hunter or any person can't defend themselves without reasonable fear of prosecution. If any person/animal threatens you with physical harm/death you are absolutely justified in defending yourself and it should be really clear that WDFW is not hell bent on finding a way to crucify you for taking such action with dangerous wildlife.
The notion that all outdoorsmen or hunters should expect an encounter like this are way off base from reality. Like other dangerous wildlife, it is always possible and something to consider.
You've said before you don't pack a handgun while you're archery hunting; I ask you to reconsider that notion. You could have really been hurt is this was you in this story.
People really do need to be armed in the woods now more than ever before.
Post by: pianoman9701 on November 06, 2014, 12:30:26 PM
Post by: TommyH on November 06, 2014, 12:38:50 PM
It remains to be determined if this guy gets charged.
Crown said in the NWsportsmans article the guy acted within his rights. No charges will be filed from wdfw.
Post by: pianoman9701 on November 06, 2014, 12:48:27 PM
Post by: wsmnut on November 06, 2014, 12:53:09 PM
Thanks for posting this story.
My sometimes habit of an after lunch combat nap way up some hill side is officially cancelled. Wouldn't want to wake up as some damn critters snack.
Wsmnut
Post by: Gringo31 on November 06, 2014, 02:04:54 PM
This leads me to think that if a wolf is THAT close.....it's on purpose.
I fear I would have stacked them up.....
Post by: WAcoyotehunter on November 06, 2014, 02:26:57 PM
Scary stuff. I hope they learned their lesson...we will see. Deer season comes back open this weekend.
Post by: MooseZ25 on November 06, 2014, 03:00:02 PM
Post by: WAcoyotehunter on November 06, 2014, 03:05:00 PM
Post by: Stein on November 06, 2014, 03:50:14 PM
Sorry it was Gary Chittum here is the story
http://www.king5.com/videos/tech/science/environment/2014/11/06/15997490/ (http://www.king5.com/videos/tech/science/environment/2014/11/06/15997490/)
The wolf was "well behaved."
The shot was intentional.
The wolf was doing what it was supposed to be doing.
Using my sherlock holmes hat, the only way Gary could have known this was if he was the shooter! Get the cuffs out and lock him up.
Post by: wolfbait on November 06, 2014, 03:57:15 PM
I think this story serves a great public service...it puts to bed the notion that a hunter or any person can't defend themselves without reasonable fear of prosecution. If any person/animal threatens you with physical harm/death you are absolutely justified in defending yourself and it should be really clear that WDFW is not hell bent on finding a way to crucify you for taking such action with dangerous wildlife.
The notion that all outdoorsmen or hunters should expect an encounter like this are way off base from reality. Like other dangerous wildlife, it is always possible and something to consider.
The one thing that seperates potential wolf attacks from other predator attacks is the fact that WA's wolves are not hunted. I wonder how many wolf attacks will be permitted before WA will be allowed to hunt wolves?
http://graywolfnews.com/pdf/Geist_when-do-wolves-become-dangerous-to-humans.pdf (http://graywolfnews.com/pdf/Geist_when-do-wolves-become-dangerous-to-humans.pdf)
Post by: idahohuntr on November 06, 2014, 04:07:04 PM
Post by: bigtex on November 06, 2014, 05:12:51 PM
UPDATED 1 p.m. with quotes from WDFW enforcement chief.
A hunter who took a shot at a gray wolf after being virtually surrounded by a pack in northeastern Washington on Oct. 30 has been cleared of any wrongdoing by Washington Fish and Wildlife police who investigated the incident.
Wolves are protected under state endangered species rules, but exceptions are allowed for force when people or domestic animals are directly threatened.
The incident took place in the territory of the Smackout Pack in Stevens County northeast of Colville off the Aladdin Road, department officials say.
The hunter called officers and reported his chilling story, which is summarized in the agency's Dangerous Wildlife Incident Reports. The story was confirmed by Steve Crown, department enforcement chief. The name of the hunter is being withheld, he said.
The man was hunting with several people when he saw a wolf skirting along the brush headed in the same direction he was going.
According to the police report, he yelled and shot into the air and the wolf left.
The hunter said he saw three additional wolves about 25 yards ahead of him, and they ran in the same direction as the first wolf.
The man then heard a noise in the brush, yelled to see if it was his hunting partner and got no response. A black wolf appeared within 15-20 yards of and approached him. The man shot at the wolf. He told officers he believed he hit it, but the wolf ran off.
Investigating officers said they found hair held by a small patch of hide indicating a flesh would likely be more educational than lethal to the wolf.
Crown acknowledged that as wolves repopulate their former territory people who venture into the northeastern Washington woods have to be more prepared for wildlife encounters than in the past.
But Crown said he’s cautious of promoting hysteria, pointing out that wolfs are naturally inquisitive.
“I think there’s probably more likelihood of being injured by a moose than a pack of wolves,” he said.
However, being armed with bear spray may be a wise precaution when being out in the woods where bears, cougars, wolves and coyotes roam, he said.
“Carrying bear spray is a good precaution,” he said. “If you’re just out checking fences, you can jump back into your pickup if something threatening occurs. But when your venturing out to more remote areas, your options are limited. You have to be able to take care of yourself.”
http://www.spokesman.com/blogs/outdoors/2014/nov/06/hunter-cleared-shooting-stalking-wolf/ (http://www.spokesman.com/blogs/outdoors/2014/nov/06/hunter-cleared-shooting-stalking-wolf/)
Post by: wolfbait on November 06, 2014, 05:23:14 PM
Hunting wolves should help reduce conflict with humans; however, wolf attacks are not "permitted" by anyone.
So, WDFW will address a wolf pack that is aggressive towards people the same as livestock killing wolves?
Post by: ICEMAN on November 06, 2014, 05:31:34 PM
Hunter cleared for shooting at stalking wolf
UPDATED 1 p.m. with quotes from WDFW enforcement chief.
A hunter who took a shot at a gray wolf after being virtually surrounded by a pack in northeastern Washington on Oct. 30 has been cleared of any wrongdoing by Washington Fish and Wildlife police who investigated the incident.
Wolves are protected under state endangered species rules, but exceptions are allowed for force when people or domestic animals are directly threatened.
The incident took place in the territory of the Smackout Pack in Stevens County northeast of Colville off the Aladdin Road, department officials say.
The hunter called officers and reported his chilling story, which is summarized in the agency's Dangerous Wildlife Incident Reports. The story was confirmed by Steve Crown, department enforcement chief. The name of the hunter is being withheld, he said.
The man was hunting with several people when he saw a wolf skirting along the brush headed in the same direction he was going.
According to the police report, he yelled and shot into the air and the wolf left.
The hunter said he saw three additional wolves about 25 yards ahead of him, and they ran in the same direction as the first wolf.
The man then heard a noise in the brush, yelled to see if it was his hunting partner and got no response. A black wolf appeared within 15-20 yards of and approached him. The man shot at the wolf. He told officers he believed he hit it, but the wolf ran off.
Investigating officers said they found hair held by a small patch of hide indicating a flesh would likely be more educational than lethal to the wolf.
Crown acknowledged that as wolves repopulate their former territory people who venture into the northeastern Washington woods have to be more prepared for wildlife encounters than in the past.
But Crown said he’s cautious of promoting hysteria, pointing out that wolfs are naturally inquisitive.
“I think there’s probably more likelihood of being injured by a moose than a pack of wolves,” he said.
However, being armed with bear spray may be a wise precaution when being out in the woods where bears, cougars, wolves and coyotes roam, he said.
“Carrying bear spray is a good precaution,” he said. “If you’re just out checking fences, you can jump back into your pickup if something threatening occurs. But when your venturing out to more remote areas, your options are limited. You have to be able to take care of yourself.”
http://www.spokesman.com/blogs/outdoors/2014/nov/06/hunter-cleared-shooting-stalking-wolf/ (http://www.spokesman.com/blogs/outdoors/2014/nov/06/hunter-cleared-shooting-stalking-wolf/)
Yep. Nothing prepares you more for defending yourself from a wolf attack than a can of pepper spray.
What a doosh waffle.
Post by: jasnt on November 06, 2014, 05:35:05 PM
Post by: KFhunter on November 06, 2014, 07:57:27 PM
Couple of stories come to mind, here is a good one.
http://www.spokesman.com/blogs/outdoors/2013/jul/09/sandpoint-cyclist-survives-tense-wolf-encounter-alcan-highway/ (http://www.spokesman.com/blogs/outdoors/2013/jul/09/sandpoint-cyclist-survives-tense-wolf-encounter-alcan-highway/)
other than high velocity lead I'm not sure what would work on a pack of wolves.
Post by: Fl0und3rz on November 06, 2014, 07:58:17 PM
Post by: idahohuntr on November 06, 2014, 09:57:35 PM
Saddened to hear WDFW promoting bear spray when there's plenty of proof that it has very limited effect on wolves.The link at the bottom of the article you posted does not support what you are saying. I think bear spray and guns can each be effective and each has advantages and disadvantages. I do not believe you are correct in making some wholesale statement that bear spray has a very limited effect on wolves. http://www.spokesman.com/blogs/outdoors/2013/jul/11/alaska-highway-cyclists-lauded-packing-bear-spray/ (http://www.spokesman.com/blogs/outdoors/2013/jul/11/alaska-highway-cyclists-lauded-packing-bear-spray/)
Couple of stories come to mind, here is a good one.
http://www.spokesman.com/blogs/outdoors/2013/jul/09/sandpoint-cyclist-survives-tense-wolf-encounter-alcan-highway/ (http://www.spokesman.com/blogs/outdoors/2013/jul/09/sandpoint-cyclist-survives-tense-wolf-encounter-alcan-highway/)
other than high velocity lead I'm not sure what would work on a pack of wolves.
Seems it kept this wolf away and possibly saved this cyclists life...it obviously worked int this case. Could a gun have worked better...debatable...how good of a shot are you while pedaling furiously down the highway shooting behind you at a moving target??
Post by: Special T on November 06, 2014, 10:28:59 PM
Post by: 4fletch on November 06, 2014, 10:37:11 PM
Post by: AspenBud on November 07, 2014, 12:46:17 PM
I think this story serves a great public service...it puts to bed the notion that a hunter or any person can't defend themselves without reasonable fear of prosecution. If any person/animal threatens you with physical harm/death you are absolutely justified in defending yourself and it should be really clear that WDFW is not hell bent on finding a way to crucify you for taking such action with dangerous wildlife.
The notion that all outdoorsmen or hunters should expect an encounter like this are way off base from reality. Like other dangerous wildlife, it is always possible and something to consider.
The one thing that seperates potential wolf attacks from other predator attacks is the fact that WA's wolves are not hunted. I wonder how many wolf attacks will be permitted before WA will be allowed to hunt wolves?
http://graywolfnews.com/pdf/Geist_when-do-wolves-become-dangerous-to-humans.pdf (http://graywolfnews.com/pdf/Geist_when-do-wolves-become-dangerous-to-humans.pdf)
Apparently the bear that attacked the Cowlitz County hunter earlier this season didn't get the notice.
Post by: timberfaller on November 11, 2014, 06:44:50 PM
It seems nowadays you bump into them on a regular basis!!! EVERYWHERE!! :o
Post by: Special T on November 11, 2014, 08:16:33 PM
1 Wolves would learn to avoid people
2 people would feel supported.
3 not that many wolves would die
4 Perceptions of wolves would be different.
ANY time you get something crammed down your throat you resent it. Mainly because you have no choice. Wolves were going to be here despite many of us that dont want them. If you look at ID and MT Wolves learn pretty quick how to stay alive when hunted. All this state is doing is promoting hostility and naked aggression by wolves. I guess im just surprised because the genie is out of the bottle NO MATTER WHAT, but the WDFW still cannot figure out a way to not get caught in the crossfire.
Post by: LeviD1 on November 12, 2014, 12:37:35 AM
Post by: Bean Counter on November 12, 2014, 12:49:00 AM
I'm not sure how the mandatory reporting requirement passes constitutional muster given the 5th Amendment protection against self incrimination. But the Bill of Rights is losing favor.. In some parts of the country.
Post by: 4fletch on November 12, 2014, 07:13:31 PM
we will be able to hunt them when Revenues fall because the elk and deer are numbers are depletedI think this story serves a great public service...it puts to bed the notion that a hunter or any person can't defend themselves without reasonable fear of prosecution. If any person/animal threatens you with physical harm/death you are absolutely justified in defending yourself and it should be really clear that WDFW is not hell bent on finding a way to crucify you for taking such action with dangerous wildlife.
The notion that all outdoorsmen or hunters should expect an encounter like this are way off base from reality. Like other dangerous wildlife, it is always possible and something to consider.
The one thing that seperates potential wolf attacks from other predator attacks is the fact that WA's wolves are not hunted. I wonder how many wolf attacks will be permitted before WA will be allowed to hunt wolves?
http://graywolfnews.com/pdf/Geist_when-do-wolves-become-dangerous-to-humans.pdf (http://graywolfnews.com/pdf/Geist_when-do-wolves-become-dangerous-to-humans.pdf)
Post by: Jonathan_S on November 13, 2014, 07:38:01 AM
What really stumps me is that is the WDFW took a more "reasonable" approach and let people know that it was OK to shoot wolves stocking thier livestock, themselves or pets MANY good things would come of it.
1 Wolves would learn to avoid people
2 people would feel supported.
3 not that many wolves would die
4 Perceptions of wolves would be different.
ANY time you get something crammed down your throat you resent it. Mainly because you have no choice. Wolves were going to be here despite many of us that dont want them. If you look at ID and MT Wolves learn pretty quick how to stay alive when hunted. All this state is doing is promoting hostility and naked aggression by wolves. I guess im just surprised because the genie is out of the bottle NO MATTER WHAT, but the WDFW still cannot figure out a way to not get caught in the crossfire.
5) Everyone would buy a wolf tag. Make it $20 and they'd have a bunch of money to reconstitute habitat for bats and owls across the land.
Post by: Special T on November 13, 2014, 09:40:07 AM
Post by: Wyoming08 on November 13, 2014, 09:55:38 AM
What the Heck is this Crap? I have been in the woods all my life and have never even had the thought of a Moose attacking me! And I grew up in Utah where we have Moose all over. I have seen Dozens of them when we have been hiking up in the mountains. :dunno:
What Dumb Arse thought that was a good response? :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash:
Stupid is as stupid Does. :bdid:
Post by: AspenBud on November 13, 2014, 10:11:19 AM
“I think there’s probably more likelihood of being injured by a moose than a pack of wolves,” he said.:tup:
What the Heck is this Crap? I have been in the woods all my life and have never even had the thought of a Moose attacking me! And I grew up in Utah where we have Moose all over. I have seen Dozens of them when we have been hiking up in the mountains. :dunno:
What Dumb Arse thought that was a good response? :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash:
Stupid is as stupid Does. :bdid:
Colorado moose attack injures 2 women
http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/20/us/colorado-moose-attack/ (http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/20/us/colorado-moose-attack/)
Woman injured in moose attack released from hospital
MISSOULA COUNTY
http://www.nbcmontana.com/news/woman-injured-in-moose-attack-released-from-hospital/20297932 (http://www.nbcmontana.com/news/woman-injured-in-moose-attack-released-from-hospital/20297932)
Moose Attacks In Alaska Prompt Officials To Urge Caution: 'Assume Every Moose Is A Serial Killer'
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/27/moose-attacks-alaska-serial-killer_n_868041.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/27/moose-attacks-alaska-serial-killer_n_868041.html)
Moose Attacks Snowmobiler - Defends With Glock - Warning Graphic
http://www.funkertactical.com/moose-attacks-snowmobiler-defends-with-glock-warning-graphic/ (http://www.funkertactical.com/moose-attacks-snowmobiler-defends-with-glock-warning-graphic/)
It's not a reach at all to say that moose attack more people than wolves in North America.
Post by: rim_runner on November 13, 2014, 10:15:16 AM
Post by: idahohuntr on November 13, 2014, 11:15:13 AM
When I lived in NW Montana a cow moose with a calf was more feared that a griz.I know substantially more hunters from where I grew up in Idaho who have had bad encounters with moose relative to wolves, bears, and cats combined.
Post by: KFhunter on November 14, 2014, 05:30:19 PM
“I think there’s probably more likelihood of being injured by a moose than a pack of wolves,” he said.:tup:
What the Heck is this Crap? I have been in the woods all my life and have never even had the thought of a Moose attacking me! And I grew up in Utah where we have Moose all over. I have seen Dozens of them when we have been hiking up in the mountains. :dunno:
What Dumb Arse thought that was a good response? :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash:
Stupid is as stupid Does. :bdid:
It's a wolf hugger trick, divert the topic of the conversation to something other than wolves.
Yes, moose can be dangerous to the unwary and unlucky. They can monkey stomp the crap out of you, but it's irrelevant as the topic is about wolves.
Personally, I'd much rather be within 100 yards of a moose than a grizz any day.
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on November 14, 2014, 05:36:04 PM
The people that allowed us to hunt a few years ago in N ID said the only thing we have to do to secure permission is show them our wolf tag!
That's awesome!
Post by: turkeyfeather on November 14, 2014, 05:52:28 PM
Probably cause there are substantially more moose. Not really making a groundbreaking statement there.When I lived in NW Montana a cow moose with a calf was more feared that a griz.I know substantially more hunters from where I grew up in Idaho who have had bad encounters with moose relative to wolves, bears, and cats combined.
Post by: bearpaw on November 15, 2014, 12:55:22 PM
“I think there’s probably more likelihood of being injured by a moose than a pack of wolves,” he said.:tup:
What the Heck is this Crap? I have been in the woods all my life and have never even had the thought of a Moose attacking me! And I grew up in Utah where we have Moose all over. I have seen Dozens of them when we have been hiking up in the mountains. :dunno:
What Dumb Arse thought that was a good response? :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash:
Stupid is as stupid Does. :bdid:
It's a wolf hugger trick, divert the topic of the conversation to something other than wolves.
Yes, moose can be dangerous to the unwary and unlucky. They can monkey stomp the crap out of you, but it's irrelevant as the topic is about wolves.
Personally, I'd much rather be within 100 yards of a moose than a grizz any day.
BINGO, this is precisely what happens with most wolf topics, the wolf supporters always find a way to derail the topic so that wolves do not look as bad. I posted a topic last winter about a local hunter who was chased up a tree and was not happy with the way that topic was hijacked. Now the same story again.
This topic is about a wolf attack that was confirmed by WDFW, please keep it on topic.
Post by: Alchase on November 15, 2014, 04:42:26 PM
Always seems to be the same few people doing the derailing :bash:
Post by: Dan-o on November 15, 2014, 05:12:30 PM
They likely mistook the hunter for being old or weak, since that's the only thing wolves prey on.
Post by: idahohuntr on November 15, 2014, 09:03:19 PM
Oh the hypocrisy! :chuckle:“I think there’s probably more likelihood of being injured by a moose than a pack of wolves,” he said.:tup:
What the Heck is this Crap? I have been in the woods all my life and have never even had the thought of a Moose attacking me! And I grew up in Utah where we have Moose all over. I have seen Dozens of them when we have been hiking up in the mountains. :dunno:
What Dumb Arse thought that was a good response? :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash:
Stupid is as stupid Does. :bdid:
It's a wolf hugger trick, divert the topic of the conversation to something other than wolves.
Yes, moose can be dangerous to the unwary and unlucky. They can monkey stomp the crap out of you, but it's irrelevant as the topic is about wolves.
Personally, I'd much rather be within 100 yards of a moose than a grizz any day.
Post by: Special T on November 16, 2014, 08:34:51 PM
Post by: bearpaw on November 16, 2014, 10:46:50 PM
- $22,500 reward offered for a wolf poacher in Stevens County
- $15,000 reward offered for a wolf poacher in Kittitas County
- Nothing offered for the wolf that attacked the hunter in Stevens County and no restitution for the terrorizing experience
Post by: wolfbait on November 17, 2014, 09:26:53 AM
What is wrong with this picture?
- $22,500 reward offered for a wolf poacher in Stevens County
- $15,000 reward offered for a wolf poacher in Kittitas County
- Nothing offered for the wolf that attacked the hunter in Stevens County and no restitution for the terrorizing experience
Two different narratives, one is save the wolf and the other is people/ranchers affected by wolves don't matter.
Post by: b23 on November 17, 2014, 11:19:10 AM
Likely there will just be missing persons reports. :twocents:
As I was reading the above posts, I thought the exact same thing. It'll just be a matter of time before hikers, hunters, or whomever, start disappearing and you have to know they will NEVER blame it on the wolves, no, it'll likely read something like this; Little Suzie Smith, missing while hiking with friends and family, is presumed dead but she showed signs of being dispondent preceding the family outing.
My eleven year old daughter wants to get into hunting but I'd be lying if I didn't admit I have some amount of concern for her safety and I think we all can admit, things are going to get a whole lot worse, before they get ANY better!
Another thought I have is what's going to happen when we get a hard winter? We haven't had a hard winter in a few years but what will happen when we get a big snow year and it pushes everything down low. Then add to that an extended cold stretch. I'd imagine sightings would become much more regular under those circumstances but I'm sure the WDFW will say, no worries they're just passing through....