Post by: DUCKDUDE on November 07, 2014, 09:48:19 AM
Post by: elkoholic1 on November 07, 2014, 10:13:58 AM
Post by: h20hunter on November 07, 2014, 10:17:40 AM
Sure is a dandy....I appreciate you posting a pic of him up.
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on November 07, 2014, 10:19:30 AM
:yeah: to what H2O said. :tup:
Post by: vandeman17 on November 07, 2014, 10:19:49 AM
Post by: DUCKDUDE on November 07, 2014, 10:48:29 AM
Post by: DUCKDUDE on November 07, 2014, 10:51:00 AM
Post by: vandeman17 on November 07, 2014, 10:58:28 AM
To rub salt in the wound, what do you guys think he would of scored. Do you think he would of made book.
I bet he would have broke records.... :chuckle: Actually I am not sure what it takes to make book for blacktails but I will say that he is a beautiful buck and those dark horns are what dreams are made of. Things happen for a reason and maybe it just means there is a bigger buck out there for you
Post by: h20hunter on November 07, 2014, 11:00:53 AM
Yeah it did help that he said it was the biggest buck he has got in 30+ years of hunting.
There you go......I feel for yah but focus on that....who knows....maybe next time you go out he may be there also and point you to an even bigger one!
Post by: DUCKDUDE on November 07, 2014, 11:36:39 AM
Post by: Elkpiss on November 07, 2014, 12:25:50 PM
To rub salt in the wound, what do you guys think he would of scored. Do you think he would of made book.
Bummer :'( But at least the old man was happy. If it makes you feel any better I think he is a ways off from making the book. I'm sure not a master of scoring but from what I can see from the pics my guess would be he goes between 110-115, book is 135.
Isnt blacktale to make book 125?? ..
Post by: pianoman9701 on November 07, 2014, 12:27:11 PM
Post by: tgomez on November 07, 2014, 12:35:47 PM
Post by: pianoman9701 on November 07, 2014, 12:56:20 PM
Post by: Bean Counter on November 07, 2014, 01:03:57 PM
Post by: pianoman9701 on November 07, 2014, 01:07:27 PM
This topic gets me more butt hurt than the ladies who have turned me down over my life.
I can't imagine a man of your gentle and sensitive demeanor ever getting turned down, Bean. :dunno:
Post by: Bean Counter on November 07, 2014, 01:16:41 PM
Post by: vandeman17 on November 07, 2014, 01:18:31 PM
I've taken more than half a dozen bucks in the neck. Never had one take a single step - dropped in their tracks. This was plain unlucky.
My dad used to shoot all his deer in the neck. I watched him shoot some that looked like someone took out all four legs because they wouldn't flinch, move or anything, basically collapse. Bad luck for sure.
Post by: tgomez on November 07, 2014, 01:54:07 PM
Post by: vandeman17 on November 07, 2014, 01:57:28 PM
:sry: If he would have waited and shot the deer in the chest, it would have died for sure. No one said you couldn't kill one by shooting it in the neck. But obviously the guy who harvested the deer shot it in the heart or lungs, that's why it died that time. It's simple lungs-heart a bigger target and more of a ETHICAL shot. That's what I was getting at. Of course something will die if you hit it square in the jugular and the neck bone, but a lite patience would have had this guy his life trophy. It was bad marksmanship, not bad luck. I've seen people kill deer by shooting them in the ass, does that make it a good shot? NO. just my :twocents: on the matter.
On the same token, I have seen people aim for heart/vitals and be too high for vitals and too low to break the back. I wouldn't say it was bad marksmanship at all. Every one of the deer my dad shot in the neck dropped immediately in their tracks. I bet if he would have been an inch or less higher or lower he would have killed that deer. At 90 yards with a rifle and a good rest I find both vitals or neck shot to be ethical but that's just my :twocents:
Post by: Skillet on November 07, 2014, 02:00:53 PM
I've done it on a whitetail in the timber - only time I've ever seen a deer die before it hit the ground.
Post by: DUCKDUDE on November 07, 2014, 02:13:53 PM
Post by: pianoman9701 on November 07, 2014, 02:52:24 PM
Post by: vandeman17 on November 07, 2014, 02:53:08 PM
Lots of Monday morning QB-ing going on. Usually, a neck shot for a deer is lights out. It looks like this one was square in the neck. I don't see why the hunter should be chastised at all. It was bum luck. Elk are a different story.
:yeah: 100% agreed
Post by: idaho guy on November 07, 2014, 03:08:57 PM
Post by: RadSav on November 07, 2014, 03:17:51 PM
I get irritated by folks rushing to the spot someone else killed or shot at a deer. The first big buck the wife shot with a rifle did not go down in his tracks. There was a rig across the canyon that saw her shoot and the deer make it over a little hump (no question hit hard). You'd of thought you were at the raceway hearing them fly around the roads trying to get there before we did. When we arrived at the shot location (Walking) those guys were already in the trees looking. Luckily for us the buck had not made it to the trees and was dead less than 40 yards from where he was when she hit him.
Go find your own deer! That is how fights break out when hunters rush to the shot hoping to tag an animal before someone else has a chance to finish tracking. With that kind of neck shot I expect it wouldn't have mattered. Sounds like the buck wasn't much effected in the short term. But it still irritates me when I see it happen.
Post by: Bullkllr on November 07, 2014, 04:29:50 PM
Next time wait till a buck stands up, then shoot him square in the chest. Theirs a reason they tell you to shoot game in the heart and lung area. I've hunted deer sense I was 12 and have never attempted to shoot a deer in the neck. You wounded the buck, but did not make a fatal shot. We call that a flesh wound. But hey, atleast you were close my friend. Lesson learned, and at least you have a few pictures of him for memory sake.
I have never attempted to shoot one in the neck either....... but will admit I did shoot one in the neck. Luckily it worked out.
It happens. A few years ago my older son shot at a blacktail buck in a slash pile and missed clean. I said "shoot again". Just as he squeezed off the buck spun toward us and jumped off the pile. He disappered. When we got over there he had a 308 cal hole in his neck right below the head. I said, "Wow, great shot!" Son said, "Yeah, um...I wasn't aiming for the neck..." :chuckle:
Post by: bigmacc on November 07, 2014, 04:30:34 PM
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Go find your own deer! That is how fights break out when hunters rush to the shot hoping to tag an animal before someone else has a chance to finish tracking. With that kind of neck shot I expect it wouldn't have mattered. Sounds like the buck wasn't much effected in the short term. But it still irritates me when I see it happen.
:tup:...Irritates me also....sorry for the O.P but at least an old timer got him.
Post by: RadSav on November 07, 2014, 04:42:35 PM
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Go find your own deer! That is how fights break out when hunters rush to the shot hoping to tag an animal before someone else has a chance to finish tracking. With that kind of neck shot I expect it wouldn't have mattered. Sounds like the buck wasn't much effected in the short term. But it still irritates me when I see it happen.
:tup:...Irritates me also....sorry for the O.P but at least an old timer got him.
I know a few old timers that are just as big of A-Wipes as their kids! ;)
Post by: wapiti hunter2 on November 07, 2014, 05:03:39 PM
That's what's bad about neck shots, either they good or not.
:yeah: to what H2O said. :tup:
Never taken a neck shot in my life and likely never will. That's why.
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on November 07, 2014, 05:09:18 PM
Post by: bigmacc on November 07, 2014, 06:23:49 PM
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Go find your own deer! That is how fights break out when hunters rush to the shot hoping to tag an animal before someone else has a chance to finish tracking. With that kind of neck shot I expect it wouldn't have mattered. Sounds like the buck wasn't much effected in the short term. But it still irritates me when I see it happen.
:tup:...Irritates me also....sorry for the O.P but at least an old timer got him.
I know a few old timers that are just as big of A-Wipes as their kids! ;)
True story,I agree :tup:
Post by: Bean Counter on November 07, 2014, 07:37:22 PM
Post by: Buckslaya on November 07, 2014, 11:02:04 PM
Post by: RadSav on November 07, 2014, 11:43:46 PM
So the deer was chasing a doe a 1/2 hour after being shot in the neck?!?! Thats crazy if true!! :yike:
My biggest blacktail was killed on the first day of late archery season in Oregon. Rifle season hadn't been over for more than a week. As he crossed the skid trail in front of me I noticed he had an odd gate but I didn't think it was much more than just being jacked on doe crack. Took me some serious running and jumping to get in front of him as he was chasing does. When I finally got the chance to send an arrow into him he was actually riding a doe down an embankment. He dismounted when they reached the bottom just 10 yards from where knelt at full draw. I'm not the worlds best shot but I ain't missing a weak loined big buck at 10 yards!!! :chuckle:
Anyhow, when I approached him a short 15 yards from where the arrow struck I noticed a hole at the top of his shoulder blades. Looked like a rifle hunter had taken a front on shot through the neck with the bullet exiting dead center between the blades. The hole was big enough I could put four fingers in the hole and down between the blade and the ribs on one side. There were maggots working some magic at the top of the fins of the spine. It was a nasty wound you would never expect a buck to recover from. Yet there he was that day fulfilling his destiny! One man's misfortune turned into this bowhunters dream come true! Amazingly tough critters, especially during the rut!!!