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Big Game Hunting => Bow Hunting => Topic started by: RadSav on November 09, 2014, 04:47:51 AM
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In two hours I head for the airport. Got my HotMocks and extra warmers packed. The Oompa Loompa suit in the duffle, every pair of gloves I could find, all my polar weight long johns, every wool hat and neck gaiter I could muster up and finally shot a couple arrows through my bow and put it in the maybe airline proof case! Yep, that's right...headed to the WI/Canada boarder for some whitetail rut action!
I cancelled every hunt scheduled for this year except this one. And after talking with some friends up there I can not for the life of me understand what I was thinking. Calling for temperatures around 10 degrees in the first half of the week with a possibility of temperatures reaching -10 by weeks end! Even worse is the idea of sitting in a treestand for five or straight days :o
I guess I expected this trip to match my failing health level. Thought all of my business issues would be far in the distant past. All new products would be completed and all ATA show obligations would be done. Boy did I get most of that wrong :chuckle: After 18 months all the broadhead outsourcing is finally going right. Most everything coming in while I am gone. Our loss of Bowtech as a customer forced us to look at new ways to expand our market share...that means new products, new colors and new packaging. All looking to be done while I am gone. Of course all this changes our display for the ATA show which means new booth, flooring and product displays. When will all the graphics be ready for approval? Yep, this week :chuckle: :chuckle: And as far as health is concerned, I'm not so sure frostbite, cramps and what is sure to be waffle buck/backside is going to be doing me any favors. :rolleyes:
I must be going crazy, because with everything coming to a head this week I'm still going to America's Frozen Dairy State ;) Them Badgers keep filling my imagination of monster bucks chasing does out of the untouched wilderness to the north. I keep imagining that I can actually draw and shoot my bow with 20 pounds of Thinsulate frozen to a metal seat 15' above the ground. That I can sit still in a treestand long enough that some love struck buck will walk past without seeing me. And that when I do get a shot I can actually get the string past 4" of down filled Sitka Incinerator jacket arms and make the opportunity count! I imagine a good shot, a short blood trail and kneeling beside a dead whitetail so impressive that I might change my attitude toward whitetails forever. :tung:
Yep...I think I just booked a seat on The Crazy Train! :IBCOOL:
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Take me! I'd love to get that kind of crazy. Good luck, safe passage.
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I hope you have a great hunt!
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Hope you harpoon a giant, good luck! :tup:
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Sounds like pregame jitters, drink some Gatorade and get in the game. :tup:
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Good luck Rad ...Hope you get something huge to show :brew: :archery_smiley: :tup:
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Best of luck on a successful and memorable hunt
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Good luck radsav.
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Good luck!
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You think your crazy but your a confident hunter, with a game plan . work will be there when you get back.I still have to wait 2 weeks, before whitetail hunting, I think I'am going crazy. Happy hunting. :tup:
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Some say women make you do crazy things... I've never found myself miles into the wilderness trying to wether sideways rain at near freezing temps for multiple days because of a woman, haha. Those big bucks can turn your mind inside out! Good luck rad! Hope you craziness is validated with a massive northern whitetail!!
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Have fun and good luck. I remember one cold winter morning in a tree stand near Ladysmith in northern, WI... the radio reported -21 degrees F, I took my dive watch off because it was freezing my wrist, hung it on a branch and IT STOPPED! The battery froze in it. Not a deer was moving in that weather, though it was after the rut during the gun season.
Sounds like you are not going to be in one of those fancy pants treestands that has a roof, walls, and even a heater. My parents have a few of these type built on their property.
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Good hunting good luck , a small thermos of soup , stew could be a comfort in the stand
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That's one hunt I wouldn't cancel. With the rut kicking in and such cold temps those big monster bucks will be putty for some does. Good luck. Don't forget a seat cussion. Even if your stand has one you'll be glad to have extra
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I wish ya the best of luck ol timer.
Where are ya going as WI doesn't share much border w/Canada.
From northern WI myself.
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Polar Vortex :P...the harder it is the better the reward!
Stay warm and safe. :)
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best of luck rad sounds like a awesome hunt back to the nile late hunt leaving the 23 nov
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I wish ya the best of luck ol timer.
Where are ya going as WI doesn't share much border w/Canada.
From northern WI myself.
Ha, hadn't noticed that. The middle of Lake Superior would be the closest Canadian border line. :chuckle:
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Its about to be that cold here ghis week in the northeast corner it sounds like!
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Hope you let the air out of a giant :tup:
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Can't wait to here the outcome of this one? :tup:
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Good luck Rad! Can't wait to read the stories when you get back! Be safe!
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Take an extra cushion for ur seat and have fun! Cant wait for the stories.
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Looking forward to see the bruiser you bring home!
When do you anticipate the broadheads being ready to go at this point? Really looking forward to getting some!
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Good luck Rad! Nothing like big whitetails and -10* to clear the head :tup:
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Well..... Patiently awaiting an update. Or did the frostbite take your typing finger? :chuckle:
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Where are ya going as WI doesn't share much border w/Canada.
From northern WI myself.
I'm no WI expert by any means. All I can say is what the outfitter was telling us. That is that the big Canadian whitetail migrate around the lake and settle in on the indian land. We were hunting a large parcel of private land the indians had sold before they got their casino in full swing. Canadian or not i saw some dang nice bucks. Too bad the storm caused so many problems!
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Hate typing on phones. Just lost half hours worth of,detail. Ill write more when I get home tonight. Still in Duluth right now.
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hope you come home with great memories,and all you extremities :chuckle: :chuckle:
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Extremities are intact. Sanity might me another matter all together. Had my opportunity and screwed the pooch. I'd like to blame it on the fact my rangefinder didn't work in the sideways snow. But, i should have thought it through in advance. Only bowhunter with a chance...or crazy enough to be hunting in the blizzard. But just a stupid rookie mistake and I knew better. Going to haunt me for a good while. Put up with all the garbage mother nature had to throw at us and then make a dumb mistake!!! I'd kick myself in the buttox if I could.
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Extremities are intact. Sanity might me another matter all together. Had my opportunity and screwed the pooch. I'd like to blame it on the fact my rangefinder didn't work in the sideways snow. But, i should have thought it through in advance. Only bowhunter with a chance...or crazy enough to be hunting in the blizzard. But just a stupid rookie mistake and I knew better. Going to haunt me for a good while. Put up with all the garbage mother nature had to throw at us and then make a dumb mistake!!! I'd kick myself in the buttox if I could.
I'd hate to see you pull a muscle Rad. Let me kick ya in the arse next time I see ya. LOL.
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Well day one started almost two hours before light. Put in a stand with a slight amount of snow on the ground 21 degrees. I knew the tree stand was not positioned correctly but I thought I could live with it. Once things started to lighten up I realized I was in a left handers stand and no way I could ever shoot an animal from there. So before shooting light I was already on the phone with the outfitter requesting a stand change. Not a good start!
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After getting the quad stuck a half dozen times in the muck we finally made it the two miles in and I was relocated in a good stand about an hour after first shooting light. Saw a few young bucks and a couple does. And then the mercury fell out the bottom and it started to snow.
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And snow...
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More cold and more snow...
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After ten hours in the tree I had back cramps, leg cramps, neck cramps and muscle spasms in nearly every part of my body. I just could not make it till dark without medication so I called the day an hour short of dark! Took nearly two hours to get out of there and back to camp by quad. Probably pushed and pulled the quad more than we drove. Conditions were getting brutal!
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wow
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i stand the snow a heck lot better than rain but can't sit long in a tree stand but hope you still had fun.
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Day 2 we woke up to a fresh 15" of snow and extremely high winds. Everyone in camp decided it was too dangerous to go out. But I didn't go there to sit in a cabin so my guide and I headed out with the snow plow to try and get me in a stand strong enough to hold my fat arse in the wind. When we got to the quad an hour later it was already starting to get light. Another hour later we had only made it to the first muck hole where we got the quad stuck and decided to head in the mile or so on foot. We made it about 600 yards and fell into mud holes we struggled to get out of. Wet, sore and getting pummeled with chucks of ice falling from the trees we admitted defeat and took the hour walk back to the plow and were headed back to join everyone else held up in the cabin.
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ouch ya sounds bad but getr done.
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The outfitter spent the day in town trying to find a large BearCat. $15,000 later he arrived back at camp with a possible mode of transportation to the stands. He and the guides spent most of the next 36 hours trying to push trails in to stands. Good thing he purchased the winch too as even the large snow machine was getting stuck in the muck and snow. Temperatures dropped into the single digits and they had to return to camp multiple times to chip frozen mud and ice from the machine and warm themselves up. Those guys worked their tails off and just couldn't seem to make any headway.
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:bumpin:
for later
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More later...been up for 24 hours and my own bed here at home is calling my name! Fresh sheets and central heat is sounding pretty freakin good right about now!!! :chuckle:
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tag for later
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Day 3 we had a few guys decide to try and get to stands. As I waited for my opportunity to get out one after another returned to camp. Most had been thrown from the snow machine a few times and others gave up after getting stuck a number of times. My guide and I decided to walk in a mile down a quad trail that had yet to be pushed through with the Bear Cat. It was slow going and we each took out fair share of spills, but I was able to get there in one piece. I was feeling good about the day and there was evidence the deer were moving well in the area. As soon as light broke I had does and small bucks working by about every 15 minutes!
Due to the long walk in the deep snow I decided to dump everything of bulk I could. Very little food, just one bottle of water, no Hot Mocks, no rangefinder, no backup gear, no extra hand warmers...Just enough gear to get me through a half a days sit on an 18X18" slab of metal in a tree! Toes were warm, my core was warm and my fingers were warm enough most of the time. I love sitting the day after a storm...this was going to be a good day!
I could hear the BearCat and plow working non-stop as the outfitter tried his best to get those who could not walk through the snow such distance. Could hear the winch being used a lot and the occasional shout of profanities rang out through the woods. Sounded like I was the lucky one out that day. Other than the regular ice balls being dropped on my head from the heavens I was pretty comfortable. And best of all I was seeing deer. And bucks were coming through with regularity!
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At 9:30 I had a doe come by acting pretty dang hot. About 50 yards from the stand she stopped and took a pee. I instantly had a rush of warmth run through the Oompa Loompa suit, pulled my release hand out of my pocket and got locked and ready!
Just before 10:00 I catch a good buck running through the trees like his balls are on fire. In the course of about four seconds I get a glimps of the left side...heavy outside of the ears, next a glimps of the right side...tall, heavy and outside the ears, broadside with vitals behind a tree I see the profile 9 points! Then a turns to go away and I draw, swing the 20 yard pin through his spine and touch 'er off! A good solid thump and his chest hits the ground as he is trying to get footing for a quick break away. Man, that all happened fast :yike:
Arrow looked good. At least what I saw of it. Was headed right for the opposite shoulder coming in from just inside the left hip. Sounded like I hit a watermelon with a baseball bat! But I never did see the arrow the last five or eight yards in flight. I was pretty confident at the impact, but as I saw him run 120 yards my optimism was taking a hit! If I had hit him where I thought I did I should have watched him go down in a pile of snow poop. Instead I jut watched him full bore run out of sight.
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I guess I missed the pre-hunt schpeal about staying in the stand until the outfitter got there. You know what they say about doctors being the worst patients? Well, I'm sure they are thinking ex-guides are the worst clients. Because I got down and went to check for my arrow. Lot's of hair, but not a lot of blood. I tracked him a hundred yards or so and while the blood was scattered constant there just wasn't any evidence of a heart shot. I made my way back to the stand and called the guide after an hour had passed. Figured it would be two hours past by the time he got in there and we could pick up the trail.
When Timber Jim got to me and I gave him the story he was not so understanding of me breaking the rules. And then when he told me in no uncertain terms that I was not allowed to help trail things got a little heated! When he got back even more heated :rolleyes: The decision was made that we would wait until the next day to track the buck. To say I was a little miffed was an understatement! I understand they have their way of doing things, but 24 hour wait even in cold weather did not sit well with me at all!
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Longest story ever!!! Speed it up old man!
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You're a bad client, Rad!
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:yike: Well you got some practice at taking SELFIES :chuckle: :chuckle: Tell me this story gets better :dunno: :hello:
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In the end it made little difference. The next day we picked up the trail and after a while Timber Jim (whom I'm not sure has ever seen real timber) ;) realized I wasn't the average Jow Blow pay some money and claim to be some big bubba hunter. Tempers and frustrations settled as we took care of the task at hand. He was actually a rather good tracker and kept on the bucks tracks even when we were finding it hard to find blood. Shortly after we passed the last spot I had tract to we came to a bedding ground. There was no question as the buck ran in circles that he was already chasing doe tail after the shot. A couple loop-d-loops and he lined out again. Never stopped, never bedded just kept cruising.
About a quarter mile later we found the back half of my arrow. Completely soaked in blood and covered with white hair. WHITE HAIR!!! WTF is that all about. We went through all the possible scenarios that would lead to white hair. If I had hit him in the arse he'd be dead already! I was certain the arrow was on a path to the opposite shoulder and we came to an agreement I must have shot low in the brisket. And with all the blood on the far side that the broadhead must have excited behind the off front leg. But, we still had blood so we were going to keep tracking.
After over a mile the buck was still chasing every doe track he crossed. Had not found a drop of blood in quite some time and the only trace that kept us knowing we were on his trail was the occasional transfer when he would cut through a swamp with grass and sticks. Most of that transfer was now a few inches below the snow line. Supporting the theory the arrow had hit the brisket and not any higher.
When the buck hit an old quad road and changed direction to bird dog more does we had pretty much accepted we were not going to find him dead. We still saw blood and I was wanting to keep tracking, but then Timber Jim fell through ice as we crossed another swamp. With miles to go to get to the truck, temperature in single digits and him soaked from shoes to shoulders we called it quits.
Once we crossed the last water crossing and could see the main road in the distance I told him to forget about me. "I'll get there in due time. You just bust tail and get to the truck and get those clothes off. I'll be just fine!" I worried about him, but I was just slowing him down. Figured his risk was less pushing it hard and getting to the truck sooner. We called ahead and had another guide pick him up at the main road. As I saw him get into the truck I felt a WHOLE lot better. I laid down in the snow, closed my eyes for a few minutes and thanked the Lord. That could have gotten bad in a quick hurry.
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Tell me this story gets better :dunno: :hello:
Nope, That's about it.
After that day the weather just got colder, the wind stopped and deer movement almost completely quit. That was the last good buck I would see on the trip. I felt crazy for making the trip and I returned home just feeling like an idiot!
Last day we got a range finder reading on the shot. It was 30 yards not 25. That pretty much explains everything...I SUCK :o :P >:(
I made the trip cause I thought it would be an easy treestand hunt. Ended up being one of the most physically demanding hunts I've had in a while. Half the clients didn't hunt more than five hours the whole trip. Just hunting or trying each day makes me feel good about the effort. And I was the only one of the bowhunters to get an opportunity. But that doesn't make my failure any less of a complete cluster %^(*
Well, that is my story about nothing! My opinion of whitetail hunting remains unchanged... :chuckle:
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One good thing happened on this hunt...
On the horrible second day as everyone sat around the cabin waiting for an opportunity Del got a call from the P&Y club. He is now a full fledged Senior Member of the Pope and Young Club. Quite an honor! He was shocked and extremely grateful. The news spurred some great stories told as only Del can. By bed time my sides ached and my face was crusted with dried tears from laughing so hard.
In the end the trip was more about good friends from opposite coasts coming together to enjoy an experience together than it was a deer hunt. Hard to go wrong on any hunt choice when we can get together and spend time enjoying life! You just never know when those opportunities will come to an end. Some day one of us will remember back on this trip and say, "Dang, I wish we would have had more of those." Thoughts of big bucks and missed opportunities won't seem all that important. The friendship and comradery will be the lasting memory and cherished moments :tup:
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Well we all know we can not get them every time ...Sounds like one hell of a hunt and sitting out in a tree stand in cold weather takes a hardcore hunter to endure...Just knowing your out there doing what you love makes the hunt a success anyway :tup: :brew:
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cool guess you hadfun anyhows and darn near filled the tag so grats.
I bet he's around next year for some other hunter to hit, or miss as the case may be.
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That's so weird. I thought all treestand hunts were easy and only lazy hunters hunted out of treestands.
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Apparently maybe that's not the case.
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That's so weird. I thought all treestand hunts were easy and only lazy hunters hunted out of treestands.
:dunno:
Apparently maybe that's not the case.
Ain't no Boneaddict muledeer hunt for sure! But, when mother nature throws gimpy and grumpy a curve ball even sitting in a tree can be challenging. :chuckle:
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Cool story.
Sorry you didn't bring home the harvest, but the memories sound pretty awesome.
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Kill dat tirdy pointer and watch out for the dnr!
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Breaking News... the selfie that wasn't posted... :chuckle:
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I hear they have over 80" for the rifle hunters this week! Makes Del and I feel like we were the lucky ones.
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Kill dat tirdy pointer and watch out for the dnr!
I wondered if anyone else had seen that movie. Escanaba in the moonlight right?
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Kill dat tirdy pointer and watch out for the dnr!
I wondered if anyone else had seen that movie. Escanaba in the moonlight right?
lol that's funny movie.
"Chevy took a chit."
80" would not be a pleasant hunt.
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80" would not be a pleasant hunt.
Easy though, they'll never see you coming as you burrow along. :chuckle:
My parents are in Northern WI right now, I think I'll give them a call and see how it is going.
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80" would not be a pleasant hunt.
Easy though, they'll never see you coming as you burrow along. :chuckle:.
lol I'm picturing buggs bunny style
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Good luck! I was there're earlier this month spent 6 days in a tree stand from November 7th through 14! It was AWESOME and can't wait to go back. Killed a big fat doe, passed on a few smaller 6's and the big bucks I had opportunities at twisted me up in my stand and no shot. I swear they can tell which way your facing and come in from behind every time.
I had every piece of clothing I had on and still got my butt kicked by he COLD!!
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Good story none the less. Did they have a "Two Holer" out back?
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Out of curiosity, what's a non resident tag cost for WI?
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Good luck! I was there're earlier this month spent 6 days in a tree stand from November 7th through 14! It was AWESOME and can't wait to go back. Killed a big fat doe, passed on a few smaller 6's and the big bucks I had opportunities at twisted me up in my stand and no shot. I swear they can tell which way your facing and come in from behind every time.
I had every piece of clothing I had on and still got my butt kicked by he COLD!!
Really, you shot a doe? My parents said they shut down doe shooting in the northern half of the state even for archers. Maybe I misunderstood?
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Thanks , my dads side of my family all lives in Wisconsin and keeps trying to get me to come out for thanksgiving rifle season. I've been declining do to what I thought it cost, and I think the way they hunt is all ass backwards. I can't sit in a tree to save my life.
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My family is all back there. The non-res licenses are a lot more reasonable than Washington's. I don't mind sitting, in fact a lot of my blacktails and one elk out here have been from a treestand. :tup: I'm going to start applying for bear back there as my parent's hunting land has a crapload of them.
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Well since finding out that it costs the same as a multi season tag here. I'm contemplating going over at least one year and trying it. It would be a fun visit anyway even if nothing gets killed.
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Well since finding out that it costs the same as a multi season tag here. I'm contemplating going over at least one year and trying it. It would be a fun visit anyway even if nothing gets killed.
Half the price of a multi-season tag if it is your first time hunting WI.
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I used to think you where long winded and over explained every thing with all variables considered. Now I know your nucking futs !
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Since your going might as well kill a hog !
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I used to think you where long winded and over explained every thing with all variables considered. Now I know your nucking futs !
Surprised it's taken this long for people to realize that :chuckle:
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Just talked to my mom a bit ago. Sixteen hunters and only two bucks down for the first three days of the season. The worst opening weekend in thirty years. Normally they take more deer than there are hunters. Only six inches of snow on the ground, but rainy and sleaty mixed in. She said they've seen more bears than bucks and no does allowed to be taken in the area this year. One guy saw 24 does opening day and not a single buck.
She said it's been a weird year in that almost all of the bucks showing on their trail cameras have been during darkness, even last summer. My dad did take a buck about three weeks ago with his crossbow.
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I used to think you where long winded and over explained every thing with all variables considered. Now I know your nucking futs !
Surprised it's taken this long for people to realize that :chuckle:
I hope by "people" you mean just Coach. The rest of us have known that for years. ;)