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Community => Advocacy, Agencies, Access => Topic started by: HighlandLofts on November 11, 2014, 07:30:45 AM

Title: Nov. 29th Open Carry Day in Support of The 594 Rally!
Post by: HighlandLofts on November 11, 2014, 07:30:45 AM: Lets get together for an OPREN CARRY DAY in support of the I-594 Rally on Dec.13th.

November 29th open carry your sidearm in support of the Rally. Spread the word and join the force, They over stepped their bounds on this BS legislation.

Be there in Olympia on Dec.13th for the I-594 Rally it starts at 11 am. get there early and show your support.

Lets see how many of you will be carrying your sidearm on the 29th.

And lets see how many will be showing up in Olympia on the 29th.
Title: Re: Nov. 29th Open Carry Day in Support of The 594 Rally!
Post by: h20hunter on November 11, 2014, 09:13:27 AM: I see this is the second thread along these lines.

Please provide a few links showing FAVORABLE press, further "post rally" actions that have benefited 2A supporters, or, for that matter, any link that shows the results of open carry rallys in a positive light. Lets say for a time frame....the last 10 years.
Title: Re: Nov. 29th Open Carry Day in Support of The 594 Rally!
Post by: Possum197 on November 11, 2014, 10:28:16 AM: I think this kind of thing, i.e. marching around carrying guns and scaring city folk is a very bad idea. I think it will have detrimental effects for our cause. :bdid:
Title: Re: Nov. 29th Open Carry Day in Support of The 594 Rally!
Post by: RG on November 11, 2014, 10:38:55 AM: Yeah. Let's all carry a bunch of "open carry" guns to the state capital. That will really win over all the people who voted for 594. Just intimidate them into agreeing with us. Better yet everybody bring a black gun for extra emphasis then the Seattle voters will for sure like our point of view and the press will film it and help our cause. It will make the politicians all want to identify with us too.

Or maybe not. Sheesh. Leave the guns home and give the cause a chance for success. It's already an uphill battle.
Title: Re: Nov. 29th Open Carry Day in Support of The 594 Rally!
Post by: Jingles on November 11, 2014, 10:40:08 AM: :yeah: I can not for the life of me figure out how a bunch of folks all of a sudden showing up openly carrying is going to settle the fears of the idiots that are afraid of guns to begin with. I tend to think it will do just the opposite. Besides I carry everyday already maybe not open but still carry and no one is the wiser unless they know me and will continue to do so regardless of what laws get passed.
Title: Re: Nov. 29th Open Carry Day in Support of The 594 Rally!
Post by: RG on November 11, 2014, 10:55:59 AM: What it will do is guarantee there will be more gun control in the future starting with open carry being outlawed next. I think this guy is pro 594 and wants to make sure it stays in effect.
Title: Re: Nov. 29th Open Carry Day in Support of The 594 Rally!
Post by: Katmai Guy on November 11, 2014, 11:14:36 AM: Yeah, look what it did with Starbucks, they supported concealed carry in their shops and then everybody showed up with open carried firearms and long guns and the Starbucks said please don't come around anymore. We are our worst enemy!
Title: Re: Nov. 29th Open Carry Day in Support of The 594 Rally!
Post by: SCRUBS on November 11, 2014, 11:16:30 AM: Quote from: RG on November 11, 2014, 10:55:59 AM
I think this guy is pro 594 and wants to make sure it stays in effect.

The way the headline is worded, kinda makes you wonder :chuckle:
Title: Re: Nov. 29th Open Carry Day in Support of The 594 Rally!
Post by: ghosthunter on November 11, 2014, 11:31:24 AM: I am a open carrier and I am a member for several years of open carry.org. I have been two a couple open carry events that I thought went well.

But I would not open carry to this event.

Remember you can open carry in this state because there is no law against it However there could be in the future. It is not a guaranteed right to open carry in the constitution.
Title: Re: Nov. 29th Open Carry Day in Support of The 594 Rally!
Post by: RG on November 11, 2014, 11:42:36 AM: Quote from: ghosthunter on November 11, 2014, 11:31:24 AM
I am a open carrier and I am a member for several years of open carry.org. I have been two a couple open carry events that I thought went well.

But I would not open carry to this event.

Remember you can open carry in this state because there is no law against it However there could be in the future. It is not a guaranteed right to open carry in the constitution.

You are 100% correct. It's all about common sense and good judgement. Everything has it's time and place.
Title: Re: Nov. 29th Open Carry Day in Support of The 594 Rally!
Post by: h20hunter on November 11, 2014, 11:47:50 AM: Quote from: RG on November 11, 2014, 11:42:36 AM
Quote from: ghosthunter on November 11, 2014, 11:31:24 AM
I am a open carrier and I am a member for several years of open carry.org. I have been two a couple open carry events that I thought went well.

But I would not open carry to this event.

Remember you can open carry in this state because there is no law against it However there could be in the future. It is not a guaranteed right to open carry in the constitution.

You are 100% correct. It's all about common sense and good judgement. Everything has it's time and place.

RG.....I agree 100%. I think this applies to open carry, displaying an animal on the way home from the field, etc. If we conduct ourselves in a manner that most find offensive then we will be our biggest enemy. Every chest thumping statement I hear makes me cringe. The by golly I'll do what I darn well please because its my right are just as big of a threat as the bunny hugger that disagrees.
Title: Re: Nov. 29th Open Carry Day in Support of The 594 Rally!
Post by: baldopepper on November 11, 2014, 12:06:54 PM: Geeze-Is it somehow lost that 60% of the voters voted for 594? It didn't just get approved, it got approved by an absoulute landslide, and 591 got defeated by a landslide!! So, lets go down to Olympia armed to the hilt and dare that 60% of the voters to try something else. That's like getting the heck knocked out of you by a much bigger guy in a fight and jumping up and asking him to beat you up again. It's time to take a step back, lick our wounds, and realistically prepare for the next onslaught. Giving a much bigger, stronger opponent more ammo to fight with is crazy, and that's exactly what this gathering would do. The only thing a march like this will do is scare voters, yep, scare them into voting for the next gun limitation bill that comes along.
Title: Re: Nov. 29th Open Carry Day in Support of The 594 Rally!
Post by: LDennis24 on November 11, 2014, 12:31:35 PM: The OP even has a quote from Johnny Cash saying "don't take your guns to town", I agree with everyone else and the quote. Don't take your guns to town cuz it will only cause more panic and fear, claim's of intimidation, etc etc... it is wiser in my opinion to spend the time educating people about how senseless this initiative is and how it isn't going to change anything related to crime. A guy isn't going to have any more trouble getting a firearm after this year. And if your going to COMMIT A CRIME with a gun, will it really change your plans if the gun your using isn't registered to you? Or obtained legally? I wonder if the supporter's of this law knew Marijuana was illegal for years and years yet VERY easily obtained within a 20 min drive of almost ANYWHERE as long as you know the right people. This makes me so sick that so many people in this state show such a low level of intelligence and logical thinking...
Title: Re: Nov. 29th Open Carry Day in Support of The 594 Rally!
Post by: Fl0und3rz on November 11, 2014, 12:47:33 PM: Quote from: h20hunter on November 11, 2014, 09:13:27 AM
I see this is the second thread along these lines.

Please provide a few links showing FAVORABLE press, further "post rally" actions that have benefited 2A supporters, or, for that matter, any link that shows the results of open carry rallys in a positive light. Lets say for a time frame....the last 10 years.

This is a good point.

Further restrictions under this may be at stake.

http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=9.41.270 (http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=9.41.270)

http://www.claytoncramer.com/popular/WashingtonOpenCarryBan.html (http://www.claytoncramer.com/popular/WashingtonOpenCarryBan.html)
Title: Re: Nov. 29th Open Carry Day in Support of The 594 Rally!
Post by: sakoshooter on November 11, 2014, 07:04:29 PM: :yeah:
Quote from: Jingles on November 11, 2014, 10:40:08 AM
:yeah: I can not for the life of me figure out how a bunch of folks all of a sudden showing up openly carrying is going to settle the fears of the idiots that are afraid of guns to begin with. I tend to think it will do just the opposite. Besides I carry everyday already maybe not open but still carry and no one is the wiser unless they know me and will continue to do so regardless of what laws get passed.
Title: Re: Nov. 29th Open Carry Day in Support of The 594 Rally!
Post by: Jingles on November 11, 2014, 07:15:34 PM: Here is another way to bring attention to the idiocy of 594 Wait until you know one of the idiots that did not research the total affects of 594 and voted for it then wants to go to the range or maybe hunting and wants to borrow or shoot your weapon offer to take them let them as soon as they have passed their background check....explaining they need their background check to fire or even handle someone else's guns.
Title: Re: Nov. 29th Open Carry Day in Support of The 594 Rally!
Post by: timberfaller on November 11, 2014, 09:36:59 PM: "Geeze-Is it somehow lost that 60% of the voters voted for 594? It didn't just get approved, it got approved by an absoulute landslide, and 591 got defeated by a landslide!! "

Yep thats right!! BUT don't forget, only a 36% turn out to vote :bash:

Too many LAZY people in this state!!! DIDN'T get out and VOTE :bdid:
Title: Re: Nov. 29th Open Carry Day in Support of The 594 Rally!
Post by: Crunchy on November 11, 2014, 09:46:26 PM: You assuming that even with an 70 percent turnout to vote the outcome wouldnt be the same?
Title: Re: Nov. 29th Open Carry Day in Support of The 594 Rally!
Post by: baldopepper on November 12, 2014, 07:01:58 AM: Actually turnout was approximately 50% and King county was only 50%. Easy to estimate based on usual voting trends that had there been a 70% turnout 594 would have passed by closer to 500,000 votes. This had nothing to do with lazy voters, like it or not, it's very obvious what the voters of the state wanted and it's very doubtful, based on the vote, that the legislature will touch this. Reality is we are a minority in this state and have done very little to generate any sympathy from the non gun owners. The task ahead is how to convince those who don't have strong sentiments about guns, that these types of laws only impact legitimate, law abiding gun owners and do very little, if anything, to impact the criminal use of firearms. Again, a big open showing of a bunch of gun toting yahoos saying openly that they won't obey the new law will only make this task much harder.
Title: Re: Nov. 29th Open Carry Day in Support of The 594 Rally!
Post by: sakoshooter on November 16, 2014, 11:07:48 AM: Very bad idea. Definitely sends the wrong message in my opinion.
Tak that same amount of time and write your representatives - over and over again.