Post by: seth30 on November 13, 2014, 09:44:03 AM
I have the following items on hand and looking to make a decent coon load out of it. Funds are tight so anything outside of what I have wont be purchased... Thank you for any help in this :tup:
WADS
Fed 12S0
Fed 12S3
Fed 12S4
SHELLS
Cheddite 2/34
POWDER
Tight Wad
DuPont 700 x
Primer
Fed 209
SHOT
#4 lead buckshot
BB Steel
#2 Steel
#7.5 Lead
Post by: lokidog on November 13, 2014, 09:59:20 AM
:twocents:
Post by: jasnt on November 13, 2014, 10:06:58 AM
700X-21.0gr. ched209 primer. fed 12SO wad. velocity1300 9,600psi. #7.5 lead 1oz.
chedite plastic case 2 3/4"
I would not use the fed209 in this load.
#4 buck I have several loads but in all of them you need a different hull and different powder or pirmer or wad.
Post by: lokidog on November 13, 2014, 10:10:15 AM
Post by: jasnt on November 13, 2014, 10:11:16 AM
Post by: seth30 on November 13, 2014, 10:11:35 AM
Post by: CP on November 13, 2014, 10:14:15 AM
7 1/2 will do the job if you get close enough.
Post by: lokidog on November 13, 2014, 10:15:05 AM
is 7.5 lead enough to drop a coon?
No, in my opinion, unless you are point blank, less than fifteen yards.
Post by: jasnt on November 13, 2014, 10:17:22 AM
Curious, it's been many years since I've reloaded for the shotgun, what difference does the primer make? It seems to me it's not like a rifle where 15 or 20 fps might make a measurable distance. :dunno:
with shot gun the primer can spike your psi to dangerous levels! You can not work up loads for a shotgun. You must stick to published load data. I have seen people substitute primers. But just cause a load is only 9,000 psi with a ched209. Using a fed209(one of the hotter shotgun primers) could jump the pressure to 13,000 psi or more.
I strongly recommend the Lyman shotshell reloading handbook to anyone thinking of reloading shotguns! :tup:
Post by: Curly on November 13, 2014, 10:18:10 AM
I'm not sure if the first shot killed him or the next 2. It was dark and I just unloaded into him to make sure he was dead. :)
Post by: CP on November 13, 2014, 10:19:40 AM
Post by: jasnt on November 13, 2014, 10:20:39 AM
is 7.5 lead enough to drop a coon?
No, in my opinion, unless you are point blank, less than fifteen yards.
I to would not trust #7.5 on a coon. #4 buck or bb steel would be my choices
Post by: seth30 on November 13, 2014, 10:31:40 AM
Post by: huntingfool7 on November 13, 2014, 10:57:08 AM
What kind of range are you shooting?
Loki- Different primers can make a large difference in shotgun pressures. Sometimes unexpected pressures depending on components. It's been a while since I looked at it but there is a Titewad recipe that will give higher pressures with a "colder" primer.
Post by: seth30 on November 13, 2014, 11:08:06 AM
I have a steel shot load at home using Titewad powder. However it does not go with any of your wads.Range is usually between 10 to 30 yards on the coons. Most times out of a tree. The steel load are you using that for coons or waterfowl?
What kind of range are you shooting?
Loki- Different primers can make a large difference in shotgun pressures. Sometimes unexpected pressures depending on components. It's been a while since I looked at it but there is a Titewad recipe that will give higher pressures with a "colder" primer.
Post by: jackelope on November 13, 2014, 11:15:11 AM
I'd not trust them to make reliable kill shots.
Post by: huntingfool7 on November 13, 2014, 11:18:38 AM
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Post by: huntingfool7 on November 13, 2014, 02:07:48 PM
Post by: seth30 on November 13, 2014, 03:35:24 PM
I have 10 lbs of lead 4 Magnum shot. If you want to trade 7-1/2's for it lb. for lb. I'd put it in a bottle and flat rate ship it up there. That's assuming the 7-1/2 is new and not reclaimed shot.thanks for the sweet offer, but I make my own as I have a mold and tons of lead.
Post by: jasnt on November 13, 2014, 06:45:41 PM
I think he's talking about #4 shot, not #4buck. with the #4shot you can use your normal load or the load I listed or CP's loads to make your coon loadsI have 10 lbs of lead 4 Magnum shot. If you want to trade 7-1/2's for it lb. for lb. I'd put it in a bottle and flat rate ship it up there. That's assuming the 7-1/2 is new and not reclaimed shot.thanks for the sweet offer, but I make my own as I have a mold and tons of lead.
Post by: seth30 on November 14, 2014, 06:47:54 AM
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Post by: jackelope on November 15, 2014, 08:17:38 PM
Post by: Jonathan_S on November 15, 2014, 08:23:41 PM
:sry:
Post by: lokidog on November 15, 2014, 08:24:41 PM
What kind? How many different kinds of raccoons are there?
Itty bitty ones, kitty sized ones, poodle sized ones, big ones, saint bernard sized ones.... They should all be dead ones. :chuckle:
Post by: seth30 on November 25, 2014, 08:24:51 AM
Post by: lokidog on November 25, 2014, 10:39:56 AM
Thanks for all the inputs :tup: Looks like I need to do more shopping for gear. :bash: After my divorce is final I will be able to afford some finer things in life, like wads and powder :chuckle:
Seth, sorry to hear about the big D, didn't know that was going on.
Post by: WAcoyotehunter on November 25, 2014, 11:31:00 AM
Post by: seth30 on November 25, 2014, 12:22:41 PM
Why are you shooting coons? I use a .22 A shotgun will destroy the hide.I am west of I5, cant use a 22...... Why did the chicken cross the road :chuckle: I actually am going to make some coon skin caps, have a few in the freezer already and got sick of trying to find buckshot. Bought the #4 buckshot mold and already reload steel shot shell for duck hunting, so figured why not load some coon loads as well.
Post by: seth30 on November 25, 2014, 12:24:00 PM
Yeah for the last 3 months, best part was one of my best friends new it was coming and never said a word.... He is no longer a friend. Give me a call tonight Ed.Thanks for all the inputs :tup: Looks like I need to do more shopping for gear. :bash: After my divorce is final I will be able to afford some finer things in life, like wads and powder :chuckle:
Seth, sorry to hear about the big D, didn't know that was going on.
Post by: seth30 on November 25, 2014, 12:31:57 PM
Why are you shooting coons? I use a .22 A shotgun will destroy the hide.Maybe the modified choke helps not destroy the hide? I have yet to destroy one, and have shot 27 with my shotgun. How close are you in the shots? I am on average 20-30 yards.
Post by: jasnt on November 25, 2014, 01:41:45 PM
nice raccoon Seth. Can I ask what your technique is for locating them. I don't have a ton around here but there are some. Pm if you like.Why are you shooting coons? I use a .22 A shotgun will destroy the hide.Maybe the modified choke helps not destroy the hide? I have yet to destroy one, and have shot 27 with my shotgun. How close are you in the shots? I am on average 20-30 yards.
Post by: huntingfool7 on November 25, 2014, 02:15:51 PM
\Why are you shooting coons? I use a .22 A shotgun will destroy the hide.Maybe the modified choke helps not destroy the hide? I have yet to destroy one, and have shot 27 with my shotgun. How close are you in the shots? I am on average 20-30 yards.
Nice! That's a public service. What load did you smack him with?
Post by: seth30 on November 25, 2014, 02:32:15 PM
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Post by: huntingfool7 on November 25, 2014, 03:00:11 PM
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Post by: seth30 on January 02, 2015, 12:52:10 PM
Post by: Kittman on January 02, 2015, 01:44:37 PM
Why are you shooting coons? I use a .22 A shotgun will destroy the hide.I am west of I5, cant use a 22...... Why did the chicken cross the road :chuckle: I actually am going to make some coon skin caps, have a few in the freezer already and got sick of trying to find buckshot. Bought the #4 buckshot mold and already reload steel shot shell for duck hunting, so figured why not load some coon loads as well.
Not sure why, say for example a .22 revolver would not be legal to use for this purpose.
Post by: jasnt on January 02, 2015, 09:47:14 PM
may not be wise to shoot a 22 at raccoons up in a tree, if you miss it, where does the bullet go?Why are you shooting coons? I use a .22 A shotgun will destroy the hide.I am west of I5, cant use a 22...... Why did the chicken cross the road :chuckle: I actually am going to make some coon skin caps, have a few in the freezer already and got sick of trying to find buckshot. Bought the #4 buckshot mold and already reload steel shot shell for duck hunting, so figured why not load some coon loads as well.
Not sure why, say for example a .22 revolver would not be legal to use for this purpose.
Post by: Kittman on January 02, 2015, 11:10:06 PM
may not be wise to shoot a 22 at raccoons up in a tree, if you miss it, where does the bullet go?Why are you shooting coons? I use a .22 A shotgun will destroy the hide.I am west of I5, cant use a 22...... Why did the chicken cross the road :chuckle: I actually am going to make some coon skin caps, have a few in the freezer already and got sick of trying to find buckshot. Bought the #4 buckshot mold and already reload steel shot shell for duck hunting, so figured why not load some coon loads as well.
Not sure why, say for example a .22 revolver would not be legal to use for this purpose.
It would go the same place as a full load of #4 buckshot- into the air...only a lot more projectiles with similar ballistic forces.
Post by: seth30 on January 02, 2015, 11:37:27 PM
may not be wise to shoot a 22 at raccoons up in a tree, if you miss it, where does the bullet go?This thread is about loads for shotguns. A 22 will not be used!Why are you shooting coons? I use a .22 A shotgun will destroy the hide.I am west of I5, cant use a 22...... Why did the chicken cross the road :chuckle: I actually am going to make some coon skin caps, have a few in the freezer already and got sick of trying to find buckshot. Bought the #4 buckshot mold and already reload steel shot shell for duck hunting, so figured why not load some coon loads as well.
Not sure why, say for example a .22 revolver would not be legal to use for this purpose.
It would go the same place as a full load of #4 buckshot- into the air...only a lot more projectiles with similar ballistic forces.
Post by: seth30 on January 19, 2015, 08:15:07 AM
Post by: jasnt on January 19, 2015, 08:27:59 AM
Post by: C-Money on January 19, 2015, 08:44:40 AM