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Title: Blacktail
Post by: Buck Rub Jr on November 16, 2014, 08:44:46 AM
First off, good luck to everyone who's out today trying to make it happen! Tried every single tactic this year for blacktail that I can think of. Glassed clear cuts,hiked trails and old roads, made pushes through clear cuts, hunted the alder and old growth stands, called and everything in between. We hunted the mashel, capitol peak, randle, packwood and skookumchuck units. Saw 4 BT on public land. :( any input on better units or buying timber passes? We hunt east side general season and then chase bt if we aren't successful over there. Any infor helps, thanks and good luck this season!
Title: Re: Blacktail
Post by: PolarBear on November 16, 2014, 08:51:08 AM
We are having the same kinda luck.  We hit it hard and tried everything that we know and have seen 1 1X2 buck and 3 does all season behind "locked gates" in Pe Ell South.  We are burned out.  We are getting  late start this morning and headed to Capitol Forrest with the masses.  At least I know several people who have taken decent bucks in there over the past few days.  I have NEVER had this much trouble finding a blacktail buck.   :bash:  I think I need to sick with my area of expertise as head for late archery whities in the NE next year and forget this rifle blacktail crap.
Title: Re: Blacktail
Post by: Buck Rub Jr on November 16, 2014, 08:56:25 AM
Saw some guys with a spike and a two point up in the black hills just south of Porter, shot the spike sand then the two point came out to check out what was going on so they shot him. Game warden said he only heard of one other spike that got shot. hunted hard all day yesterday and all we saw was a single squirrel! Hope you put one on the ground buddy, good luck!
Title: Re: Blacktail
Post by: Bucks2Ducks on November 16, 2014, 09:03:24 AM
That's the nice part about hunting Eastern WA, you always see deer. Black tail can be discouraging, but if you put in the time eventually you will find him. Sounds like your hunting lots of area, in the preseason try to find at least one good spot; and spend every minute you can  during the season in that area. That way you avoid precious time looking for areas. These guys who have BT's hanging every year, have there hunt planned well before the season.
Title: Re: Blacktail
Post by: Buck Rub Jr on November 16, 2014, 09:05:56 AM
For everyone who came here to see a decent buck. This guy was all rutted up hanging out with me while I was working on Fox Island. Nov. 3rd
Title: Re: Blacktail
Post by: cooltimber on November 16, 2014, 09:06:50 AM
biggest blktail I ever got was coming out of the reprod at 3;00 pm.nice day it was about 43*blue sky,slight wind. 4x4 heavy :twocents:
Title: Re: Blacktail
Post by: Buck Rub Jr on November 16, 2014, 09:07:33 AM
That's the nice part about hunting Eastern WA, you always see deer. Black tail can be discouraging, but if you put in the time eventually you will find him. Sounds like your hunting lots of area, in the preseason try to find at least one good spot; and spend every minute you can  during the season in that area. That way you avoid precious time looking for areas. These guys who have BT's hanging every year, have there hunt planned well before the season.
Thats what I figured, I just need to scout hard and find some good ground! Thanks for the help 8)
Title: Re: Blacktail
Post by: Buck Rub Jr on November 16, 2014, 09:15:49 AM
biggest blktail I ever got was coming out of the reprod at 3;00 pm.nice day it was about 43*blue sky,slight wind. 4x4 heavy :twocents:
Do you usually sit and glass the reprod? Wondering if I should be a little more patient instead of just glassing it hard and moving on :dunno:
Title: Re: Blacktail
Post by: fishnfur on November 16, 2014, 09:24:02 AM
Most guys who are successful at hunting reprod scouted the cuts in summer and decided where they would spend their time.  They will sit on those cuts the entire day waiting for something to move.
Title: Re: Blacktail
Post by: Buck Rub Jr on November 16, 2014, 09:29:47 AM
Most guys who are successful at hunting reprod scouted the cuts in summer and decided where they would spend their time.  They will sit on those cuts the entire day waiting for something to move.
I'll be doing some more summer scouting it sounds like, thank you for the info  :)
Title: Re: Blacktail
Post by: moocher97 on November 16, 2014, 10:02:25 AM
small bucks are going to be desperate and moving...ALOT and the big bucks are probably gone be in a little cover and moving...ALOT
Be patient and glass 2-3 year old clear-cuts tree lines and bring the rattling anters!
Title: Re: Blacktail
Post by: Buck Rub Jr on November 16, 2014, 10:12:06 AM
small bucks are going to be desperate and moving...ALOT and the big bucks are probably gone be in a little cover and moving...ALOT
Be patient and glass 2-3 year old clear-cuts tree lines and bring the rattling anters!
Rattling was just about the only thing we didn't try yesterday! Couldn't find a rattle bag anywhere and didn't want to damage sheds :( you have good success rattling for BT?
Title: Re: Blacktail
Post by: PolarBear on November 16, 2014, 08:17:19 PM
I took both of my daughters to Capitol Forrest today.  Didnt hit it until 11:30. Saw 2 does right off the bat and watched 4 rigs drive less than 40 yards from them and never saw them.  We got in front of the does and watched them move into the reprod. After about 1/2 hour a small 2 point joined them.  He was too small for my daughter so we moved.  All in all we glassed and rattled up 5 spikes, 2 forkies and one 2X3.  None of which big enough to take home. After a pretty crappy season, even though we ate our tags it was an awesome day with my kids. I had both girls rattling and calling in bucks.
Title: Re: Blacktail
Post by: Buck Rub Jr on November 16, 2014, 08:39:41 PM
I took both of my daughters to Capitol Forrest today.  Didnt hit it until 11:30. Saw 2 does right off the bat and watched 4 rigs drive less than 40 yards from them and never saw them.  We got in front of the does and watched them move into the reprod. After about 1/2 hour a small 2 point joined them.  He was too small for my daughter so we moved.  All in all we glassed and rattled up 5 spikes, 2 forkies and one 2X3.  None of which big enough to take home. After a pretty crappy season, even though we ate our tags it was an awesome day with my kids. I had both girls rattling and calling in bucks.
Heck yeah! Sounds like a successful day to me, memories are what matter, the animals are just a plus! Thanks for the info! :) will definitely try rattling next year!
Title: Re: Blacktail
Post by: PolarBear on November 16, 2014, 08:45:15 PM
 :tup:
That 2X3 that my kids rattled up came in so hot that he almost ran over us.  I stopped him with a grunt at 20 feet!  I LOVE rattling in blacktails (whities too).
Title: Re: Blacktail
Post by: Buck Rub Jr on November 16, 2014, 09:30:23 PM
:tup:
That 2X3 that my kids rattled up came in so hot that he almost ran over us.  I stopped him with a grunt at 20 feet!  I LOVE rattling in blacktails (whities too).
that's nuts! Sounds like a blast, we couldn't find a rattle bag anywhere recently, I wanted to try and rattle real bad! We were just south of porter in the Capitol Forest and only deer that we saw or even heard of were a little spike and forkey dead in a guys truck. Always got next year! Do you usually hunt the Capitol forest?
Title: Re: Blacktail
Post by: PolarBear on November 16, 2014, 10:06:08 PM
I have only hunted Capitol Forrest one time before and that was at least 15-16 years ago.  I went in practically blind. It seemed that the other folks were only interested in driving the roads and occasionally glassing.  We found and hiked in little overgrown spur roads that skirted reprod and big timber to do our rattling.  Most of the deer were on the South side of the unit.  A couple of the spikes were in the timber just up from the power lines on the Rock Candy side.  Talked to a couple of rigs and none of them had seen a single deer.  We sent an old timer in after the 2X3.
Title: Re: Blacktail
Post by: Buck Rub Jr on November 16, 2014, 10:13:36 PM
I have only hunted Capitol Forrest one time before and that was at least 15-16 years ago.  I went in practically blind. It seemed that the other folks were only interested in driving the roads and occasionally glassing.  We found and hiked in little overgrown spur roads that skirted reprod and big timber to do our rattling.  Most of the deer were on the South side of the unit.  A couple of the spikes were in the timber just up from the power lines on the Rock Candy side.  Talked to a couple of rigs and none of them had seen a single deer.  We sent an old timer in after the 2X3.
You must have the magic touch with your rattling! My pops and I made some pushes through some reprod down into a stand of old alders I think it was and tried to bleat and grunt but we had nothing come in. Maybe I need to be more patient because there was sign everywhere! Fresh rubs and nice trails. Do you usually head just into the timber to rattle and just hang in there for a bit?
Title: Re: Blacktail
Post by: PolarBear on November 16, 2014, 10:25:31 PM
I like to find a semi open spot where the timber and reprod meet and set up 30- 40 yards inside the timber.  I let things settle down for at least 15-20 minutes before calling.  I will start out with a doe bleat for a few minutes then let it calm down.  After a few times I break out the antlers.  Star out soft and gradually get more aggressive but not as much as you would with whitetails.  I also go light on the grunt tube.  Dig into the ground a little with the antlers and rake the brush.  I prefer real antlers to bags or fake ones.  :twocents:
Title: Re: Blacktail
Post by: Buck Rub Jr on November 17, 2014, 05:47:23 AM
I like to find a semi open spot where the timber and reprod meet and set up 30- 40 yards inside the timber.  I let things settle down for at least 15-20 minutes before calling.  I will start out with a doe bleat for a few minutes then let it calm down.  After a few times I break out the antlers.  Star out soft and gradually get more aggressive but not as much as you would with whitetails.  I also go light on the grunt tube.  Dig into the ground a little with the antlers and rake the brush.  I prefer real antlers to bags or fake ones.  :twocents:
awesome, I'll definitely give it a go next year. Thanks for the info and good luck for the rest of the season :tup:
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