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Title: Stay Away! From Butcher Boys (Puyallup, Wa)
Post by: GameHunter1959 on November 17, 2014, 04:01:49 PM
Thought I would provide a little feedback. Been going to Butcher Boys in Puyallup since 2000. A few times my buddies and I have questioned whether or not we were getting back the game we brought in, or somebody else's. We also scratched our heads a bit, on the quantities we were receiving.

Last year they lost my deer. Took them 7 weeks to find it. Even then; I'm not very confident I got back the deer I brought in to be butchered.

This year I decided to give them a second chance, given we have had great experiences prior to 2013. We brought them 3 deer and 1 elk this year. What a mess.

All 3 deer involved smoke products (summer sausage, peperoni). We like to make our own jerky, so we requested meat cut into jerky, wrapped, etc. They messed it all up. I got calls from their staff (4 times) to come in and pickup meat. I would get there, and I was shorted something. Then I would have to wait for them to make it right, and come back. Total mess.

I boned out my elk and brought them 100% good clean meat (150 pounds). No blood shot etc. The elk was to be cut into steaks, roast, burger, etc. Just a basic cut n wrap job. I get back 4 large paper bags of ground meat, 4 packs of stew meat, and 8 packs of steaks (total 16 steaks), and the tenderloins are missing. That was it.

Essentially I was told they hired a new guy, who decided to grind up 90% of my elk. I asked why?
Their response..."It must have been shot up" Nope, brought you good clean meat, and I did not bring in the rib cage, which is where the elk was shot.

Their response... "Well it was the first time we used him to cut game. He should not of done that. He won't be coming back to work for us."

In the end I got screwed. I have plenty of elk burger, a few steaks, out of a really nice elk.

These people are way disorganized to be butchering game and trying to keep track of it. Every complaint I had, was met with an excuse and a lack of accountability. They may mean well, but the bottom line is my buddies and I got screwed all over the place. We won't be going back after 14 seasons for consistently bringing them multiple animals per year.

Thank you...

 
Title: Re: Stay Away! From Butcher Boys (Puyallup, Wa)
Post by: 100 grain on November 17, 2014, 04:24:21 PM
 :bash:  sorry gamehunter! That's bs. With as unorganized as they sound it will be only a matter of time before word gets out and their in the unemployment line
Title: Re: Stay Away! From Butcher Boys (Puyallup, Wa)
Post by: Hunterman on November 17, 2014, 04:36:44 PM
I refuse to use Butcher Boy for anything. I wouldn't even bring them an opossum. I have taken deer to them and they tried to screw me on them, and a steer to cut up. Out of the steer I go 10 grocery bags of meat. When I asked about the rest it damn near came down to a fist fight. Screwus Meats in McKenna is another chop shop to stay far away from both with wild game and beef. How do y'all think Screwus gets the meat for their wild game stuff..

Hunterman(Tony)
Title: Re: Stay Away! From Butcher Boys (Puyallup, Wa)
Post by: CAMPMEAT on November 17, 2014, 05:39:31 PM
I used them once in 1990 and never used them again. They screwed me then.
Title: Re: Stay Away! From Butcher Boys (Puyallup, Wa)
Post by: brianmtsinc on November 17, 2014, 05:53:24 PM
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Title: Re: Stay Away! From Butcher Boys (Puyallup, Wa)
Post by: trophyhunt on November 17, 2014, 06:03:38 PM
I think most butchers mess stuff up once in a while, NO excuses but they get very busy and I can see how some things get messed up.  The 20lbs of meat to be made into burger for over 100 dollars is Not right, if that's what happened.  John is a friend of mine, I am going to talk to him in the near future about these screw ups.  Which wont be easy to do, he's very good to me.  The only small mistake I've had w butcher boys in all the years john resolved as soon as I talked with him.  my point is, He does try to make things right when he can. 
Title: Re: Stay Away! From Butcher Boys (Puyallup, Wa)
Post by: DeerThug on November 17, 2014, 06:52:48 PM
Go to Costco and buy plastic food wrap and butcher paper and then get a medium quality grinder.  Total cost = to about what you paid for crappy service from a butcher.  And it will last for several seasons and then you are money ahead  Then learn how to do it yourself.  It is not that hard lots of info here and on line.   Basically follow the mussel lines of the back quarters and steak and roast them grind the meat low on the legs..  Back straps, trim and steak.  Front shoulder is mostly grind each to his own.  Clean and trim as you go.   Pretty hard to mess it up too much. It will save you a ton of money and you know exactly what you are getting.
Title: Re: Stay Away! From Butcher Boys (Puyallup, Wa)
Post by: Crunchy on November 17, 2014, 06:59:27 PM
Butcher and Boys have always been good to me.  I used to bring in around 100lbs of elk and they would grind it on the spot back into my cooler, adding fat for 20 bucks.  I would package it at home in vac bags.  He also hung my bull elk this year in his cooler for 11 days and only charged me half price for doing that.  I usually deal with Bob who is not there very often these days.
Title: Re: Stay Away! From Butcher Boys (Puyallup, Wa)
Post by: bowhunterwa87 on November 17, 2014, 07:06:53 PM
Go to Costco and buy plastic food wrap and butcher paper and then get a medium quality grinder.  Total cost = to about what you paid for crappy service from a butcher.  And it will last for several seasons and then you are money ahead  Then learn how to do it yourself.  It is not that hard lots of info here and on line.   Basically follow the mussel lines of the back quarters and steak and roast them grind the meat low on the legs..  Back straps, trim and steak.  Front shoulder is mostly grind each to his own.  Clean and trim as you go.   Pretty hard to mess it up too much. It will save you a ton of money and you know exactly what you are getting.
:yeah:
Title: Re: Stay Away! From Butcher Boys (Puyallup, Wa)
Post by: Buzz2401 on November 17, 2014, 07:11:15 PM
Our camp averages about 3 deer and 4 elk a year, we took our meat to Stewarts and Mt View for years and were never really happy.  The straw that broke the camels back was when we got a elk roast that weighed over 4lbs from stewarts that had less then 12ozs of meat on it,(it was all bone). That was from stewarts.  Later that year took a buck to MtView and asked for steaks burger and roasts.  They proceeded to take a hind quarter and run through the bandsaw and make 4 roast out of the hind quarter.  Leaving all the bone and exterior cure membrane on meat.  Total bill for that year for our group was a little under $1000 for all the animals.  Next year we went and bought a Cabelas grinder and a few other items.  That was 7 years ago.  The cost to cut up 4 elk and two deer this year was $380 and we made a ton of sausage products and jerky.  I don't think butchers really want to cut your meat, but if they are gonna take it they should show a little pride in work and do a good job.
Title: Re: Stay Away! From Butcher Boys (Puyallup, Wa)
Post by: Bean Counter on November 18, 2014, 12:56:32 AM
Yikes! Glad I do my own.   Op should post some public reviews on yelp anf google maps  :twocents:
Title: Re: Stay Away! From Butcher Boys (Puyallup, Wa)
Post by: longwalker on November 18, 2014, 05:05:52 AM
It's sooooo easy to cut and wrap yourself. Plus way way better quality than any butcher I've seen do game. Then wait till it's not hunting season and take what you want smoked to a GOOD shop. I would concur about stAying away from butcher boys. Never heard anything good about them
Title: Re: Stay Away! From Butcher Boys (Puyallup, Wa)
Post by: huntingfool7 on November 18, 2014, 05:07:33 AM
Ahhh the annual Butcher Boys thread.

I started cutting my own a lot of years ago after dropping off a deer there.  That deer came back with gravel in the burger and my shotgun slug wrapped neatly in a steak (along with a big plug of hair/blood).  Couldn't believe it when I unwrapped that package. 
At least I know the steaks were mine.  No idea where that gravel came from.  I guess maybe the wild game goes into a communal pot for grinding. ?

Anyhow, jump in and start cutting your own.  You'll know it's yours, you'll know you got it all and you'll know you didn't get anything "extra".
Title: Re: Stay Away! From Butcher Boys (Puyallup, Wa)
Post by: C-Money on November 18, 2014, 05:44:03 AM
One of the best feelings in the world was breaking away from mass meat butchers and doing our own. Sorry you had trouble, its a shame to have good, clean animals come back in poor shape. Been there, did something about it, do my own.
Title: Re: Stay Away! From Butcher Boys (Puyallup, Wa)
Post by: Michelle_Nelson on November 19, 2014, 01:01:38 AM
Quality costs $$.  Doesn't matter what line of work your in.  If you don't want to pay what a butcher would need to charge to clean his equipment every time he changed animals I would recomend learning to butcher your own. 

I worked 4 seasons at a processor that did 90% game meat durring the season.  I've see how long it takes to butcher animals, the ---------------  field care, the customers that bring in 150lbs deer and expect 145lbs of meat back.
Title: Re: Stay Away! From Butcher Boys (Puyallup, Wa)
Post by: T Pearce on November 19, 2014, 01:44:40 AM
Quality costs $$.  Doesn't matter what line of work your in.  If you don't want to pay what a butcher would need to charge to clean his equipment every time he changed animals I would recomend learning to butcher your own. 

I worked 4 seasons at a processor that did 90% game meat durring the season.  I've see how long it takes to butcher animals, the *censored*ty field care, the customers that bring in 150lbs deer and expect 145lbs of meat back.
:yeah:
Title: Re: Stay Away! From Butcher Boys (Puyallup, Wa)
Post by: Taco280AI on November 19, 2014, 02:10:24 AM
At least you guys aren't having to wait 3-5 years to get your meat back after putting a deposit down  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Stay Away! From Butcher Boys (Puyallup, Wa)
Post by: huntingfool7 on November 19, 2014, 06:32:45 AM
Quality costs $$.  Doesn't matter what line of work your in.  If you don't want to pay what a butcher would need to charge to clean his equipment every time he changed animals I would recomend learning to butcher your own. 

I worked 4 seasons at a processor that did 90% game meat durring the season.  I've see how long it takes to butcher animals, the *censored*ty field care, the customers that bring in 150lbs deer and expect 145lbs of meat back.
GIGO
I don't see how you can defend this based on pricing.  (BTW- I also worked at a butcher shop just out of school)
I told them at drop off that there was a shotgun slug somewhere in the front shoulder.  I talked to the guy that cut and wrapped that deer on pickup about my slug.  He said that it wasn't in there.  Six months later, I popped a package of band saw cut steaks out of the fridge.  There is an obviously large plug of hair sticking out of the middle of a large blood clot.  As a guy, I had to stick my finger in it and out pops a 12 gauge foster slug. 
I ask you, oblivious or just didn't care?
As to the gravel, that did not come from my deer.  I had never seen gravel ground into meat before.  What do you think that poor creature...that had been dragged down the road looked like on drop off?
Dirt?  Gravel?  And that ended up in my burger!  I'll ask you again, oblivious or just didn't care?
Title: Re: Stay Away! From Butcher Boys (Puyallup, Wa)
Post by: DRENALINJUNKIE on November 19, 2014, 07:22:40 AM
Had some similar issues with some hog that we had done and my uncle with beef. Won't ever go back!
Title: Re: Stay Away! From Butcher Boys (Puyallup, Wa)
Post by: Gobble on November 19, 2014, 07:46:28 AM
I started butchering my own game several years ago. That way you know for sure that you are getting your own meat back. Alot of butchers will wait until they have several deer or elk before processing them then process them together, esp burger, because of the teardown required for processing wild game. I take very special care of my animals after shooting them, I skin the animal right away and bone out and place in a cooler of ice typically within an hour or two. Plus you never know if someone else has gut shot their animal and taken the proper steps to clean the meat. This year for the first time I took 20lbs of venison to Olsons Meats in Enumclaw to make into pepperoni, theirs is phenominal. I can't wait to get that back.  :drool:
Title: Re: Stay Away! From Butcher Boys (Puyallup, Wa)
Post by: birddogdad on November 19, 2014, 07:58:04 AM
So many stories of this nature over the years to even accused theft of game meat (butcher keeps his cuts) that keep me processing my own game. Really, its not that expensive nor rocket science. Gaining the tools is the expense, which, IMO is paid for after first season of use. There is everything needed for all forms of processing from grinders to band saws to smokers.

I just cant see giving someone money to cut and wrap stuff....

most every part of your game is able to be "processed" in some very tasty edible form. Grinder and canner work great for the "stuff" you probably threw out or trim off, you would be surprised what a butcher actually grinds for your burger in stores.. as I used to say "ill take a pound of lips and a**holes". I even saws-all the bones into manageable sizes and boil down in a deep fryer turkey pot in the yard, removing bones as I go, adding water and more bones, ultimately condensing enough to can a couple cases of this wonderful soup stock or crock pot starter. All that meat that is between ribs, along spine, neck ect will boil off and is easily recovered into the stock jars. If you don't like grind look into corning game as well. Ever have Corn Elk and cabbage?
Pickled heart? Tongue? If you see it in a butchers window from a cut of cow, you can do exactly the same with any elk....
 :tup:

as the commercial states - "you got this!"
Title: Re: Stay Away! From Butcher Boys (Puyallup, Wa)
Post by: Stein on November 19, 2014, 08:39:43 AM
Sorry to hear that, it sounds like it puts a sour note on the season which is a real bummer.  For me, the hunt really lives on every time I pull a white package out of the freezer.

I would echo several other guys, do it yourself.  It is much less expensive, and I guarantee you will do a better job the first time than any commercial butcher.  They simply cannot take the time to do everything exactly like you want and all of the detailed trimming and processing.

I consider it part of the hunt, DIY start to plate.
Title: Re: Stay Away! From Butcher Boys (Puyallup, Wa)
Post by: Michelle_Nelson on November 19, 2014, 12:11:41 PM
Quality costs $$.  Doesn't matter what line of work your in.  If you don't want to pay what a butcher would need to charge to clean his equipment every time he changed animals I would recomend learning to butcher your own. 

I worked 4 seasons at a processor that did 90% game meat durring the season.  I've see how long it takes to butcher animals, the *censored*ty field care, the customers that bring in 150lbs deer and expect 145lbs of meat back.
GIGO
I don't see how you can defend this based on pricing.  (BTW- I also worked at a butcher shop just out of school)
I told them at drop off that there was a shotgun slug somewhere in the front shoulder.  I talked to the guy that cut and wrapped that deer on pickup about my slug.  He said that it wasn't in there.  Six months later, I popped a package of band saw cut steaks out of the fridge.  There is an obviously large plug of hair sticking out of the middle of a large blood clot.  As a guy, I had to stick my finger in it and out pops a 12 gauge foster slug. 
I ask you, oblivious or just didn't care?
As to the gravel, that did not come from my deer.  I had never seen gravel ground into meat before.  What do you think that poor creature...that had been dragged down the road looked like on drop off?
Dirt?  Gravel?  And that ended up in my burger!  I'll ask you again, oblivious or just didn't care?

I'm not sure what went on with your animal.  It could have been over looked or it could have been that the butcher didn't care.  I wasn't there when they cut and wrapped it.

I butcher my own.  Always have.  I have taken only 2 animals to butchers in my 17 years of hunting.  One deer about 15 years ago and last year I had a beef butchered.  They went to 2 different butchers and I was happy with both.  I used Littlerock Meats down south of me, I believe exit 62.  The owners name is Mike. 

Every year there is another butcher or 2 being bashed on here.  Usually about the same thing, over priced, dirty meat, claims it's someone elses meat, shorting of meat, etc, etc




Title: Re: Stay Away! From Butcher Boys (Puyallup, Wa)
Post by: superdown on November 19, 2014, 12:39:13 PM
The last butcher i used several years ago washttp://www.lindsmeats.com/ (http://www.lindsmeats.com/) linds custom meats in kent/covinton area absolutely the best experience i have had.They have a shed where you can clean your own carcass and they flat out say leave only the amount of dirt and hair your willing to eat on it.I would highly recommend them very Delicious jalapeno cheese venison pepperoni sticks they are not cheap but worth it. :tup: I process my own so i don't use a butcher anymore but if i did this would be the first place i would take my game to. :drool:
Title: Re: Stay Away! From Butcher Boys (Puyallup, Wa)
Post by: YoterHunter on November 19, 2014, 02:13:59 PM
Sorry to here about there mistake. I've been useing them for 19 years  and have only had a few mistakes made but they make it up to me . And for meat what I take in I get back through the years I've figger you get back around 60-65 percent of what you take in I have every thing deboned. I'm waiting for them to call and pic up my sons deer.Bobs son took over the buesnes 3 years ago.
Title: Re: Stay Away! From Butcher Boys (Puyallup, Wa)
Post by: huntingfool7 on November 19, 2014, 02:16:27 PM
Quality costs $$.  Doesn't matter what line of work your in.  If you don't want to pay what a butcher would need to charge to clean his equipment every time he changed animals I would recomend learning to butcher your own. 

I worked 4 seasons at a processor that did 90% game meat durring the season.  I've see how long it takes to butcher animals, the *censored*ty field care, the customers that bring in 150lbs deer and expect 145lbs of meat back.
GIGO
I don't see how you can defend this based on pricing.  (BTW- I also worked at a butcher shop just out of school)
I told them at drop off that there was a shotgun slug somewhere in the front shoulder.  I talked to the guy that cut and wrapped that deer on pickup about my slug.  He said that it wasn't in there.  Six months later, I popped a package of band saw cut steaks out of the fridge.  There is an obviously large plug of hair sticking out of the middle of a large blood clot.  As a guy, I had to stick my finger in it and out pops a 12 gauge foster slug. 
I ask you, oblivious or just didn't care?
As to the gravel, that did not come from my deer.  I had never seen gravel ground into meat before.  What do you think that poor creature...that had been dragged down the road looked like on drop off?
Dirt?  Gravel?  And that ended up in my burger!  I'll ask you again, oblivious or just didn't care?

I'm not sure what went on with your animal.  It could have been over looked or it could have been that the butcher didn't care.  I wasn't there when they cut and wrapped it.

I butcher my own.  Always have.  I have taken only 2 animals to butchers in my 17 years of hunting.  One deer about 15 years ago and last year I had a beef butchered.  They went to 2 different butchers and I was happy with both.  I used Littlerock Meats down south of me, I believe exit 62.  The owners name is Mike. 

Every year there is another butcher or 2 being bashed on here.  Usually about the same thing, over priced, dirty meat, claims it's someone elses meat, shorting of meat, etc, etc





Every year there is a thread about this.  I know this isn't the first thread about Butcher Boys.  As I previously stated, it's another annual BB thread.

I take issue with your implication that cheap (or not) pricing reflects the quality of the work received.  Should they offer the option of added gravel?  A little pea gravel with the added fat is going to cost you.  That doesn't sound ridiculous to you?  As a meat cutter, they have the option to decline work.  A good clean shop should decline soiled or stinky meat.  There are health code rules in place about how often grinding/cutting equipment is to be cleaned and about grinding contaminated foods.  Should a customer pay an upcharge for that?

It's been a long time since they processed that deer.  It shouldn't still piss me off like it does. 

To the OP, get a grinder, a good knife and a cutting table.  It's like learning to gut, just jump in there and get your paws dirty.  It's not tough but be prepared to spend a long night knocking it out.  Cut your helpers a fair share.  Lose the hunting partners that don't help process. 
Title: Re: Stay Away! From Butcher Boys (Puyallup, Wa)
Post by: elkhunter1978 on November 19, 2014, 03:00:38 PM
I personally have sent all of my animals to Butcher Boys since I started hunting. I have refered multiple friends to them also and NEVER had an issue. I have also camped out talking with Bob and John watching them work. I did this as I was wondering how it was done. So I can actually say HOW they do it. They are a very honest shop, clean and tighty. I am sorry that some have had bad experiences with them. However, there is always two sides to the story.
John and Bob have always been forth coming and honest with me. I have never had missing meat. They don't lose meat (at least for me) and they have always stepped to the plate when I have asked a question about my return product. If you don't bone the meat before dropping it off there is a loss of weight. period, thats how it works. If you think you can do better, go by the machines and step up. There is no need to bash the butcher on this forum, but it keeps getting done year after year. I can tell you this.... If I have a question or a complaint I would take it to the man that took my animal in, the same one that I shook hands with the day I dropped it off and no one else. If there wasn't a hand shake, well there was no deal period. thats how I roll. What I do see on this thread is a lot of talking to the wrong people or not talking to the owners if there is an issue. Next time someone has an issue hell talk to the guy next door. I'm sure he'll have an answer too.
Title: Re: Stay Away! From Butcher Boys (Puyallup, Wa)
Post by: h20hunter on November 19, 2014, 03:02:13 PM
Sounds like there is plenty of first hand experience to bash the butcher.
Title: Re: Stay Away! From Butcher Boys (Puyallup, Wa)
Post by: T Pearce on November 19, 2014, 06:28:57 PM
The quality money thing..... if I spend a lot, I expect a lot.
Title: Re: Stay Away! From Butcher Boys (Puyallup, Wa)
Post by: trophyhunt on November 19, 2014, 06:48:42 PM
I just want to say, it is illegal for meat stores to sell wild game unless it's bought from a licensed wild game farm.  They get inspected all the time, so I think the rumor of butchers taking or skimming game meat is just bs. Why would they take that chance, especially when they buy much better beef all the time.  John, the owner is an honest man,  elk hunter1978 made some great points! Talk to john about your issues when it happens, don't talk to anyone else, just john.
Title: Re: Stay Away! From Butcher Boys (Puyallup, Wa)
Post by: TheHunt on November 19, 2014, 06:59:43 PM
I cut my own. 

Stewarts meat in McKenna is a risk and what I saw there made me quit buying anything there. 

BUT I do take meat to MT. View meats on 112th to have them make me the 1/2 inch pepperoni sticks.  I love their stuff...   It is all about timing.  Within a few months all the game will be out of their cycles.  Than I bring my meat in for them to make my pepperoni.  I get what I gave them.  They do a wonderful job... 

 
Title: Re: Stay Away! From Butcher Boys (Puyallup, Wa)
Post by: bearbaito6 on November 19, 2014, 07:48:13 PM
Rainer Taxidermy in Roy, cut and wraps and does all the specialties.  By far the best I've used.
Title: Re: Stay Away! From Butcher Boys (Puyallup, Wa)
Post by: Celiafritch on November 20, 2014, 06:52:23 AM
Wow ! My name is celia Fritch I work at butcher boys  and personally wrapped all of this guys ( I'd like to say gentlemens but really can't ) meat .my reputation proceeds me as a competent wrapper as well as knowledgable customer service rep. I am also the girl he came in and talked to on several occasions without being called, verbally abusing myself and any other girl he could talk to. I'm sorry that you are so unhappy somewhere in you're life you feel it's necessary to take it out on girls behind a counter but as you found out I won't be one of them . If anybody reading these posts has any questions or concerns feel free to come in and watch us cut and wrap your animal . Lying on the internet is just juvenile .
Title: Re: Stay Away! From Butcher Boys (Puyallup, Wa)
Post by: irishevox on November 20, 2014, 07:05:57 AM
I would say if you can make the drive try Del Fox in Marysville!  they have done my bear and deer and I couldn't;'t be happier
Title: Re: Stay Away! From Butcher Boys (Puyallup, Wa)
Post by: Mark Brenckle on November 20, 2014, 07:14:04 AM
Wow ! My name is celia Fritch I work at butcher boys  and personally wrapped all of this guys ( I'd like to say gentlemens but really can't ) meat .my reputation proceeds me as a competent wrapper as well as knowledgable customer service rep. I am also the girl he came in and talked to on several occasions without being called, verbally abusing myself and any other girl he could talk to. I'm sorry that you are so unhappy somewhere in you're life you feel it's necessary to take it out on girls behind a counter but as you found out I won't be one of them . If anybody reading these posts has any questions or concerns feel free to come in and watch us cut and wrap your animal . Lying on the internet is just juvenile .
  Awesome! The plot thickens... and people ask why I will never sign up up for facebook...
Title: Re: Stay Away! From Butcher Boys (Puyallup, Wa)
Post by: TheHunt on November 20, 2014, 08:19:39 AM
Interesting and a great first post.

Any smart service company will have a woman at the "Face" person for the company.  If you put a female in that spot it defuses the face to face confrontation and the worst case you get yelling. 

But it seems like the fellow was not happy with his results either way.
Title: Re: Stay Away! From Butcher Boys (Puyallup, Wa)
Post by: Huntergirl1 on November 20, 2014, 10:25:28 AM
So I also work at butcher boys and have for the past 10 years. It is crazy to me someone who is a grown man would come on here and slander us with false facts. You came in multiple times and caused a scene. First off we have never stolen anyones meat EVER! We are highly monitored by the game wardens. We do carry elk and deer for purchase it is also brought in from New Zealand got the receipts to prove it. The man who started this thread is very misinformed as to the cuts and what you get back. Smoked vs fresh meat there is always a difference. You will always lose more weight if u have stuff  smoked. When u bone out your meat and bring it in a cutter needs to follow your lines which could have effected where the roasts and steaks are. Finally he has yet to talk to John who is the owner in person.  He has just yelled and called all the girls names. In fact the girl he calls a meth head told him on multiple occasions if you are unhappy or believe something was messed up John would be happy to work with u to make it right. We also never called him to say he was missing meat he called us saying there was a bag missing which he knew he had already picked  up everything. He did get at least 3 calls saying meat was ready because he was the contact person for 4 animals in a month span. Get your facts straight before going on social media and slamming a business who bust there ass to make sure they have done everything to the best of their abilities.
Title: Re: Stay Away! From Butcher Boys (Puyallup, Wa)
Post by: bowhunterwa87 on November 20, 2014, 10:30:39 AM
At least the site has three new members due to the ops topic  :chuckle: welcome to the site.
Title: Re: Stay Away! From Butcher Boys (Puyallup, Wa)
Post by: longwalker on November 20, 2014, 10:48:38 AM
the first posts being one in defense of a business being bashed is always funny and reeks of sincerity......
Title: Re: Stay Away! From Butcher Boys (Puyallup, Wa)
Post by: Woodchuck on November 20, 2014, 10:53:36 AM
Or just being proud of where they work and what they do.... There are usually 2 sides to every story.  :dunno:
Title: Re: Stay Away! From Butcher Boys (Puyallup, Wa)
Post by: Curly on November 20, 2014, 11:01:22 AM
Welcome to the new members. :tup:  There are actually a lot of nice people on the site.  I hope you stick around long enough to see that.  :hello:
Title: Re: Stay Away! From Butcher Boys (Puyallup, Wa)
Post by: ghosthunter on November 20, 2014, 11:07:27 AM
Interesting and a great first post.

Any smart service company will have a woman at the "Face" person for the company.  If you put a female in that spot it defuses the face to face confrontation and the worst case you get yelling. 

But it seems like the fellow was not happy with his results either way.

Unless the complainer is female.
Title: Re: Stay Away! From Butcher Boys (Puyallup, Wa)
Post by: chevyistop on November 20, 2014, 11:20:25 AM
Rainer Taxidermy in Roy, cut and wraps and does all the specialties.  By far the best I've used.
:yeah:   I have used Zach for a few mounts and I take all my trim to him for summer sausage ,brats, or "crack". Very nice to do business with.  Crack has cheddar cheese and jalapeņo and other seasonings it's by far my favorite.
Title: Re: Stay Away! From Butcher Boys (Puyallup, Wa)
Post by: muzbuster on November 20, 2014, 11:37:15 AM
Gotta jump on this in support of Butcherboys, I have done/and still do lots of business with them since the late 80's, early 90', that would be all the way back to when they were in the old shop, and to this day  have to honestly say I have never ever had any issues or bad experiences with anything they have done for me. Be that processing my dear or elk or with any purchase of any kind of meat or meat products. The closest thing I could come to for being a "bad experience" would be that 1 time about 10 years ago I bought 5 lbs of breakfast sausage and it was a little on the greasy side but was by no means "bad", just a little more fatty then normal. I mentioned that to John the next time I was there just to give him a little feed and back nothing more, I wasn't a big deal, and he apologized and gave me 5 lbs. of breakfast sausage to replace what was "bad" plus gave us a few sticks of pepperoni free of charge.
Title: Re: Stay Away! From Butcher Boys (Puyallup, Wa)
Post by: ballpark on November 20, 2014, 12:07:52 PM
We use Double T meats in Eatonville, very professional, great quality and price :tup:
Title: Re: Stay Away! From Butcher Boys (Puyallup, Wa)
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on November 20, 2014, 12:24:27 PM
We use Double T meats in Eatonville, very professional, great quality and price :tup:



They make a killer meat loaf!
Title: Re: Stay Away! From Butcher Boys (Puyallup, Wa)
Post by: Elkrunner on November 20, 2014, 01:19:39 PM
Start cutting your own.  Then you will not have any issues.
Title: Re: Stay Away! From Butcher Boys (Puyallup, Wa)
Post by: Alchase on November 20, 2014, 01:35:37 PM
Wow ! My name is celia Fritch I work at butcher boys  and personally wrapped all of this guys ( I'd like to say gentlemens but really can't ) meat .my reputation proceeds me as a competent wrapper as well as knowledgable customer service rep. I am also the girl he came in and talked to on several occasions without being called, verbally abusing myself and any other girl he could talk to. I'm sorry that you are so unhappy somewhere in you're life you feel it's necessary to take it out on girls behind a counter but as you found out I won't be one of them . If anybody reading these posts has any questions or concerns feel free to come in and watch us cut and wrap your animal . Lying on the internet is just juvenile .

Then maybe you can explain this to me, a couple years ago I looked around for pricing on a 10 + lb Crown of Pork for a family reunion Christmas dinner.
I was getting prices from $4.50 a pound to $6.00 a pound. I had had a bad experience with Butcher boys in the past so I was leery of trying them again. I gave them the benefit of the doubt.
I stopped in at Butcher Boys and was quoted $4.00 a pound! The "owner" he said, wrote me up an order at $4.00 a pound for a 10.2 lb Crown. December 23rd, I go to pick up my Crown, the place is crammed with people. I notice there is a paper bag wrapped package sitting above behind the counter with my name on it. $4.00 a lb is written on the bag.
I hand the guy behind the counter my ticket, he grabs the bag off the shelf, grabs a magic marker and scratches off the $4.00 a and writes $10.00 on it?
I ask him why he did that?
He says it costs $10.00 a lb.
I show him my ticket and where on the bag it is marked $4.00 a lb, and he puts the bag back on the shelf, and yells "next"!
He looks back at me and says take it or get out.
Our whole meal was planned around a 10 lb crown of pork. There is nowhere I could have found a replacement on such short notice. I hated paying a rip off like that, short of destroying our Family reunion I had no option but to pay it.
I paid the $10.00 lb, and told him he was dishonest man that would get no more business from me.
He laughed and said get the h3ll out.

I do know if I owned a business, and if 1/4 of the amount of people as there are just in this thread, say they had horrible dealings with my company?
I would be going out of my way to fix the problem.
Yet every year we hear more and more people who have been ripped off one way or another by Butcher Boys.

I find it ironic a Butcher Boys employee accusing anyone on here of being dishonest, though I do not know you, so I won't question your integrity.
You employer is a dishonest piece of work!

Every time Butcher Boys name is brought up in conversation, I will tell everyone I can how much of a ripoff they are!
Title: Re: Stay Away! From Butcher Boys (Puyallup, Wa)
Post by: huntingfool7 on November 20, 2014, 01:44:48 PM
Wow ! My name is celia Fritch I work at butcher boys  and personally wrapped all of this guys ( I'd like to say gentlemens but really can't ) meat .my reputation proceeds me as a competent wrapper as well as knowledgable customer service rep. I am also the girl he came in and talked to on several occasions without being called, verbally abusing myself and any other girl he could talk to. I'm sorry that you are so unhappy somewhere in you're life you feel it's necessary to take it out on girls behind a counter but as you found out I won't be one of them . If anybody reading these posts has any questions or concerns feel free to come in and watch us cut and wrap your animal . Lying on the internet is just juvenile .

Then maybe you can explain this to me, a couple years ago I looked around for pricing on a 10 + lb Crown of Pork for a family reunion Christmas dinner.
I was getting prices from $4.50 a pound to $6.00 a pound. I had had a bad experience with Butcher boys in the past so I was leery of trying them again. I gave them the benefit of the doubt.
I stopped in at Butcher Boys and was quoted $4.00 a pound! The "owner" he said, wrote me up an order at $4.00 a pound for a 10.2 lb Crown. December 23rd, I go to pick up my Crown, the place is crammed with people. I notice there is a paper bag wrapped package sitting above behind the counter with my name on it. $4.00 a lb is written on the bag.
I hand the guy behind the counter my ticket, he grabs the bag off the shelf, grabs a magic marker and scratches off the $4.00 a and writes $10.00 on it?
I ask him why he did that?
He says it costs $10.00 a lb.
I show him my ticket and where on the bag it is marked $4.00 a lb, and he puts the bag back on the shelf, and yells "next"!
He looks back at me and says take it or get out.
Our whole meal was planned around a 10 lb crown of pork. There is nowhere I could have found a replacement on such short notice. I hated paying a rip off like that, short of destroying our Family reunion I had no option but to pay it.
I paid the $10.00 lb, and told him he was dishonest man that would get no more business from me.
He laughed and said get the h3ll out.

I do know if I owned a business, and if 1/4 of the amount of people as there are just in this thread, say they had horrible dealings with my company?
I would be going out of my way to fix the problem.
Yet every year we hear more and more people who have been ripped off one way or another by Butcher Boys.

I find it ironic a Butcher Boys employee accusing anyone on here of being dishonest, though I do not know you, so I won't question your integrity.
You employer is a dishonest piece of work!

Every time Butcher Boys name is brought up in conversation, I will tell everyone I can how much of a ripoff they are!
Wow...that would piss me off more than eating rocks!
Title: Re: Stay Away! From Butcher Boys (Puyallup, Wa)
Post by: Seahawk12 on November 20, 2014, 11:59:11 PM
 :chuckle:
Sorry you had your elk lost/stolen/screwed up. This place sounds like quite the dump.
From reading this thread I have decided that I will never use this business and if I hear the name brought up I will definitely warn people away and relate how multiple people have had horrible experiences with them.
I own my own business. If a client has an issue I listen to them and I do everything in my power to fix the issue. If I ever saw a thread like this on a forum somewhere talking about me or my business I would be deeply ashamed. I work hard to avoid making screw ups that would lead to this kind of thread. However, If I did see it then something I would not do is start posting and increasing the drama.
The responses I read here have emphasized to me how incredibly unprofessional this company is. The owner should be absolutely embarrassed and ashamed at how his employees are representing him and his business. While reading their posts I could almost hear chants of Jerry, Jerry, Jerry.........in the background.
Luckily, we still live in a capitalist system. If people want to create a negative atmosphere then they should expect word of mouth to cause their business to dwindle.
Title: Re: Stay Away! From Butcher Boys (Puyallup, Wa)
Post by: Taco280AI on November 21, 2014, 12:38:40 AM
It sounds like there have been plenty of problems with this place from numerous people, and on a wide variety of issues too. I'm glad word got out. Those saying don't bash them, why? So the next person can have trouble with them too?

If a company offers a good service (or even better, great service) at a reasonable price word will get out and it will bring in more customers. Should they not say anything either? Same is true of bad service - word gets out and it will deter people from going there. Is how it works.

Take care of your customers and they'll take care of you
Title: Re: Stay Away! From Butcher Boys (Puyallup, Wa)
Post by: BackStrappin on November 21, 2014, 09:03:19 AM
and yet people still drop off their wild game at this place.  :bash:

Title: Re: Stay Away! From Butcher Boys (Puyallup, Wa)
Post by: birddogdad on November 21, 2014, 09:38:09 AM
"I spent $1048 for 4 animals. That's a pretty good chunk of cash; paid up front. I consider that a good paying customer that trust the butcher to follow thru on their end. "

$250 /critter? 

Keep in touch next season and I would be very willing to show/help you process (for free)....IF I get an animal and you are available the day I am cutting it, you could come over and watch or help in the process. Only way you will ensure that all the game makes it to your freezer is keeping eyes on the prize....should be well over what you are describing for return on an elk, easy 100+lbs ground, WAY more than 16 steaks and tenderloins, several nice roasts , and there should be 60-100lbs of additional scraps to can, freeze for crockpot or grind up... just sayin

Title: Re: Stay Away! From Butcher Boys (Puyallup, Wa)
Post by: trophyhunt on November 21, 2014, 11:47:11 AM
Thats what I've been trying to convey, john is an honest man and will do what it takes to make it right.
Title: Re: Stay Away! From Butcher Boys (Puyallup, Wa)
Post by: irishevox on November 21, 2014, 11:56:04 AM
So I also work at butcher boys and have for the past 10 years. It is crazy to me someone who is a grown man would come on here and slander us with false facts. You came in multiple times and caused a scene. First off we have never stolen anyones meat EVER! We are highly monitored by the game wardens. We do carry elk and deer for purchase it is also brought in from New Zealand got the receipts to prove it. The man who started this thread is very misinformed as to the cuts and what you get back. Smoked vs fresh meat there is always a difference. You will always lose more weight if u have stuff  smoked. When u bone out your meat and bring it in a cutter needs to follow your lines which could have effected where the roasts and steaks are. Finally he has yet to talk to John who is the owner in person.  He has just yelled and called all the girls names. In fact the girl he calls a meth head told him on multiple occasions if you are unhappy or believe something was messed up John would be happy to work with u to make it right. We also never called him to say he was missing meat he called us saying there was a bag missing which he knew he had already picked  up everything. He did get at least 3 calls saying meat was ready because he was the contact person for 4 animals in a month span. Get your facts straight before going on social media and slamming a business who bust there ass to make sure they have done everything to the best of their abilities.

It seems like these workers that work there just joined the site to jump in the conversation
Title: Re: Stay Away! From Butcher Boys (Puyallup, Wa)
Post by: longwalker on November 21, 2014, 06:04:13 PM
I am happy to say, that I got a call from John this morning and he made it right. Like others have stated on here; John will take ownership of the problem and come up with a solution. I won't go into all the details, but I have no complaints and will come back next year. The guy cares about his customers. Thou I did not want anything that wasn't owed too me; I am grateful for what he did today. I encourage others to give these guys a shot and keep an open mind that businesses make mistakes. Perhaps the moderators can please delete this topic. Thank GH


After all that now your endorsing them?! Wow, what does it feel like to be bought any way?
Title: Re: Stay Away! From Butcher Boys (Puyallup, Wa)
Post by: trophyhunt on November 21, 2014, 06:21:11 PM
If you knew the man(John) , you'd understand !
Title: Re: Stay Away! From Butcher Boys (Puyallup, Wa)
Post by: longwalker on November 21, 2014, 06:29:08 PM
I'm not as far removed as you guys think. There reputation precedes them regardless of the owners likability and I still think it's hilarious the 180 the OP did with how far he was taking it in the beginning
Title: Re: Stay Away! From Butcher Boys (Puyallup, Wa)
Post by: billythekidrock on November 21, 2014, 06:38:43 PM
You have no idea what any of the details are. What John knew or didn't know. I am very fair and would rather believe the good in people. If says this is what he knew or didn't know; then I'm going to take the mans word.

The details are in your first post. Sorry, but your bashing for day and then changing your tune so quick has me wondering if there really was any problem to begin with.

I have had a couple issues with a butcher and after the second time I will never go back, I always warn others........and NEVER change my stance no matter what they did to try and change my mind. The issues were legit and I will not chance it again.
Title: Re: Stay Away! From Butcher Boys (Puyallup, Wa)
Post by: Seahawk12 on November 21, 2014, 07:53:14 PM
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After all that now your endorsing them?! Wow, what does it feel like to be bought any way?
:yeah:
Title: Re: Stay Away! From Butcher Boys (Puyallup, Wa)
Post by: akirkland on November 25, 2014, 08:26:57 PM
I had Butcher Boys smoke some pheasant for me in the late 90's. Exceptional! I've also had a quarter pound of beef from a buddy who takes his cows there. Excellent cut and wrap job! And as for Stewarts, for some reason they tend to get a bad rap. They have been in business for a long, long time. I have never been disappointed with them. Random trips for rib eyes, pork belly and ribs have never failed. Meat packs for BBQ's have always been solid. My breakfast sausage I get with 10-15 pounds of my venison is always really good. People are gonna hate, regardless of the industry. I can without a doubt say I will continue to shop at Stewarts. And Im pretty sure I will swing into Butcher Boys at some time in the future.
Title: Re: Stay Away! From Butcher Boys (Puyallup, Wa)
Post by: 100 grain on November 25, 2014, 09:18:41 PM
 :dunno: kinda weird how gh1959 did a 180 on this but still doesn't difuse the fact that this isn't the 1st time of this company being brought up. Maybe this post (seeing how workers got involved) will help steer the company in the right direction?? Sometimes a guy can get astray from his original way with all the hustle and bustle of life and a business. Maybe this will put things in perspective for the company..... I love small business America :tup:
Title: Re: Stay Away! From Butcher Boys (Puyallup, Wa)
Post by: irishevox on November 26, 2014, 07:03:13 AM
just go to Del Fox they are simply the best around!  all your problems will be solved!!!! I do not work for them nor am I paid to say stuff for them, but for me brining in a deer and bear and getting more than 1/2 the hanging weight back is fine by me!  They are stellar team with pretty girls that handle your meat well (no pun intended)
Title: Re: Stay Away! From Butcher Boys (Puyallup, Wa)
Post by: birddogdad on November 26, 2014, 07:23:33 AM
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After all that now your endorsing them?! Wow, what does it feel like to be bought any way?
:yeah:

interesting end by the OP after such an emotional start to the thread.....
Title: Re: Stay Away! From Butcher Boys (Puyallup, Wa)
Post by: Odell on November 26, 2014, 07:34:07 AM
That was a weird turnaround.

I would throw in a plug for Olsens in Enumclaw. Since moving to WA about 12 years ago I have tried about 6 different butchers on both the east and west side. Wasn't really happy with any of them until I tried Olsens..I will never go anywhere else. Fantastic service, great quality and the best jerky, pep sticks, breakfast sausage you will ever have. They are simply top notch and I have never heard a bad word about them.

Just due to cost, I bought a grinder and have been doing my own cut and wrap for two years now but I still put aside about 20-30 pounds and have Olsens make something for me. Love that place and highly recommend it.
Title: Re: Stay Away! From Butcher Boys (Puyallup, Wa)
Post by: carlyoungs on November 26, 2014, 07:39:19 AM
just go to Del Fox they are simply the best around!  all your problems will be solved!!!! I do not work for them nor am I paid to say stuff for them, but for me brining in a deer and bear and getting more than 1/2 the hanging weight back is fine by me!  They are stellar team with pretty girls that handle your meat well (no pun intended)


I buy all my meat from del fox. 1/2 pigs ,1/4 beef ,brauts and so on. Never had any problems and I wont buy store bought meat again. I take my game animals to them every year and they do a great job. All my friends also bring their game there too and haven't been disappointed. 
Title: Re: Stay Away! From Butcher Boys (Puyallup, Wa)
Post by: Gobble on November 26, 2014, 08:01:39 AM
I just got back 20lbs of Pepperoni from Olsons's, BEST around!! Very nice and helpful, Highly recommend!! :chuckle:


That was a weird turnaround.

I would throw in a plug for Olsens in Enumclaw. Since moving to WA about 12 years ago I have tried about 6 different butchers on both the east and west side. Wasn't really happy with any of them until I tried Olsens..I will never go anywhere else. Fantastic service, great quality and the best jerky, pep sticks, breakfast sausage you will ever have. They are simply top notch and I have never heard a bad word about them.

Just due to cost, I bought a grinder and have been doing my own cut and wrap for two years now but I still put aside about 20-30 pounds and have Olsens make something for me. Love that place and highly recommend it.
Title: Re: Stay Away! From Butcher Boys (Puyallup, Wa)
Post by: Gobble Doc on December 03, 2014, 11:22:59 AM
I too went to Del Fox in Stanwood and they seem to have done a good job.  Next year I might venture to try it on my own. 
Title: Re: Stay Away! From Butcher Boys (Puyallup, Wa)
Post by: Seahawk12 on December 06, 2014, 02:04:12 PM
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I just tell it like it is, and call it how I see it
And every member that reads through this is perfectly capable of calling it as they see it.
The way I see it, I would never take your reviews seriously as you may just be using this forum to get something for yourself. It isn't about giving important insight into a business or business practice. It was about getting something for yourself.
Just telling it like it is, because after all, I call it like I see it.
Title: Re: Stay Away! From Butcher Boys (Puyallup, Wa)
Post by: grundy53 on December 06, 2014, 02:30:40 PM
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I just tell it like it is, and call it how I see it
And every member that reads through this is perfectly capable of calling it as they see it.
The way I see it, I would never take your reviews seriously as you may just be using this forum to get something for yourself. It isn't about giving important insight into a business or business practice. It was about getting something for yourself.
Just telling it like it is, because after all, I call it like I see it.

Well I never "asked" them to "give" me anything. I paid $1048 and expected to get everything I paid for. Just as you or any other forum member would. Even when he offered to refund me $200 I told him I could careless about $200. All I wanted was the meat they "openly admitted" to losing, which I paid for. Nothing more...nothing less. I shared by experience both pro and con. Essentially you are saying; because I did not continue to pile on The Butcher Boys that you don't take my review seriously. Had I of only spewed negative garbage about them; THEN you would take my review seriously. That would be a bias review. Regardless; I could care less if you or anyone else take my review seriously.

Clearly The Butcher Boys has had their share of negative reviews on Hunt Wa. My review is not going to be the ONE review that discourages somebody to not do business with them.
Are you kidding me? This is hilarious. So them losing your meat is ok with you? After all of the bs you went through you would still recommend them to others and you hope others will do business with them? Wow.
Title: Re: Stay Away! From Butcher Boys (Puyallup, Wa)
Post by: grundy53 on December 06, 2014, 02:42:17 PM
I'm not arguing. Just reading your last post was hard to believe after all you have gone through dealing with those guys.
Title: Re: Stay Away! From Butcher Boys (Puyallup, Wa)
Post by: Mudman on December 06, 2014, 02:58:02 PM
I worked at Stewarts during High school.  Dorothy, Butch, Tom etc.  They make some good tasting stuff.  Not a dishonest place.  Stewarts were/are family friends, Grandpa , mostly. We still use em.  Mistakes have been made but few.  Only bad I could say was its not the cleanest place and the pay sucks :chuckle:. Is any butcher shop?  :dunno: We have been treated well by Butch. :twocents:
Title: Re: Stay Away! From Butcher Boys (Puyallup, Wa)
Post by: Firedogg on December 06, 2014, 08:37:34 PM
My dad and brother have been using Butcher Boys for years and talk tbe place up whenever they can, they are satisfied long time customers.
  I use Double T Meats in Eatonville, they are very good and I will always support good local businesses.
  Stewarts is hit and miss, but I think that's because they are so busy they can't spend much time with you to get all your particular wants and needs correctly, but they do fair work. They are my go to for smoked pork chops if I can get there middle of the day during the week.
Title: Re: Stay Away! From Butcher Boys (Puyallup, Wa)
Post by: Celiafritch on December 08, 2014, 08:15:20 AM
I've sat back quietly following since my first and only post .. The unfounded name calling from the beginning spoke volumes on this mans character and I'm deeply saddened that this was overlooked by so many. On a positive note since joining this site I've found some amazing recipes. Cheers to you guys ! :tup:
Title: Re: Stay Away! From Butcher Boys (Puyallup, Wa)
Post by: billythekidrock on December 09, 2014, 01:18:38 PM
I've sat back quietly following since my first and only post .. The unfounded name calling from the beginning spoke volumes on this mans character and I'm deeply saddened that this was overlooked by so many. On a positive note since joining this site I've found some amazing recipes. Cheers to you guys ! :tup:

Please stick around and share some recipes of your own.
Title: Re: Stay Away! From Butcher Boys (Puyallup, Wa)
Post by: irishevox on December 10, 2014, 06:45:46 AM
 :yeah:
Title: Re: Stay Away! From Butcher Boys (Puyallup, Wa)
Post by: salmonchaser on December 15, 2014, 11:26:13 AM
One of the advantages to cutting your own is learning how little, for lack of a better phrase, meat you get off a deer or elk you busted your ass to get in the truck.
As many have stated it's simply not that hard. Don't over think it.
Title: Re: Stay Away! From Butcher Boys (Puyallup, Wa)
Post by: irishevox on December 17, 2014, 07:27:03 AM
I bring mine to DEL FOX b/c I like ground meat
Title: Re: Stay Away! From Butcher Boys (Puyallup, Wa)
Post by: quadrafire on December 17, 2014, 09:57:31 AM
 :chuckle:
Title: Re: Stay Away! From Butcher Boys (Puyallup, Wa)
Post by: smalldog on December 19, 2014, 05:27:58 PM
I had some problems with using a butcher years ago. I had a good friend show me how to cutup deer and elk and bear, so I have done my own butchering for a long time now.  What a lot of people don't understand is how much you would lose on a deer, elk or any animal when you kill it. Take a 200 lb deer and take the legs, head, hide, blood, and insides out and weigh it. You would be surprised at how much weight is lost. If you bone it out you really will see a loss of weight.  When I grind up a deer I save all the scraps that I don't want, thats fat and all the stuff that you don't want in your burger. When I am done with my game animal I take all that scrap and grind it up an use it for dog food for my brothers bird dogs. Bird dogs work really hard for you so its a great energy food when you hunt birds with them. I try to get the most out of my game animal and using the scraps for someones hunting dogs is a good way of using it.  I like the way I handle my meat and have the advantage of really cleaning it as I butcher my own meat.
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