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Title: Genetics or weird coincidence
Post by: boneaddict on November 20, 2014, 11:58:09 AM
I filmed this buck in 2011. 

(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv47%2Fboneaddict%2Fbonesbucks%2F2011_zps12949bd3.jpg&hash=7b4f81bfd8f277152462b9ce9c32a90c44cee4ad)
Title: Re: Genetics or weird coincidence
Post by: boneaddict on November 20, 2014, 11:59:00 AM
Then in 2014 I filmed this guy in the same spot give or take 5 FEET.

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Title: Re: Genetics or weird coincidence
Post by: boneaddict on November 20, 2014, 11:59:44 AM
I assumed it was an injury on the 2011 buck.
Title: Re: Genetics or weird coincidence
Post by: Rainier10 on November 20, 2014, 12:03:11 PM
Odd for sure. It switched sides also, right?
Title: Re: Genetics or weird coincidence
Post by: kodiak 907 on November 20, 2014, 12:03:48 PM
Clumsy
Title: Re: Genetics or weird coincidence
Post by: runamuk on November 20, 2014, 12:05:30 PM
could be dietary as well too much or not enough of a certain element during antler growth.  Which if an area is deficient/excessive should show up in the population more broadly.  Are you sure these arent hanford deer  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Genetics or weird coincidence
Post by: trytough on November 20, 2014, 12:06:39 PM
A buddy of mine shot a 4 point muley in the winthrop area back in the late 90's that had knobs on his antlers, but only on one side just like your 2011 buck.
Title: Re: Genetics or weird coincidence
Post by: Tbob on November 20, 2014, 01:04:16 PM
A buddy of mine shot one like your 2011 pic, but he was in AZ..
Title: Re: Genetics or weird coincidence
Post by: boneaddict on November 20, 2014, 01:13:48 PM
Most of the time its due to an injury.   I thought it was funny how similar these guys were,  Cap coloring, small throat patch.  If 2011 got busy I could see a 2.5 year old buck looking like him.
Title: Re: Genetics or weird coincidence
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on November 20, 2014, 01:15:29 PM
Injury - “Acorn points” are a common injury-based oddity seen each fall. This is a swelling in the middle or near the tip of a hardened antler tine. Acorn points are caused when the buck bumps the growing tip of the tine on something hard. The velvet on the tip is injured and, in the process of repairing itself, deposits more antler material at that location. From Jim Hefelfinger of AZ G&F, the guru of deer abnormalities.
Title: Re: Genetics or weird coincidence
Post by: boneaddict on November 20, 2014, 01:21:06 PM
 :yeah:

When another one shows up in three years I guess I will know. :chuckle:

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Title: Re: Genetics or weird coincidence
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on November 20, 2014, 01:40:01 PM
That would have been a cool trophy with those acorns. :tup:

My buddie non typical had one on its rack.
Title: Re: Genetics or weird coincidence
Post by: Band on November 20, 2014, 07:09:11 PM
I think those first 2 pics are the same buck, are they not?
Title: Re: Genetics or weird coincidence
Post by: MtnMuley on November 20, 2014, 07:18:24 PM
That's a true definition of an acorn there. :tup:
Title: Re: Genetics or weird coincidence
Post by: trophyhunt on November 20, 2014, 07:34:05 PM
This is my wife's dads blacktail he shot several years ago in Wilkeson.(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ftapatalk.imageshack.com%2Fv2%2F14%2F11%2F20%2F4d5aa53b78278aff96ded591442a4165.jpg&hash=2db434df1795e09e35e95ad9be5b3fa55e329639)



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Title: Re: Genetics or weird coincidence
Post by: csaaphill on November 20, 2014, 07:43:31 PM
darn it try again same deer I think I've been watching this small spike or 1x2 the last couple of years so same I think.
Or lack of nutrients.  :dunno:
Title: Re: Genetics or weird coincidence
Post by: boneaddict on November 20, 2014, 07:43:53 PM
I think those first 2 pics are the same buck, are they not?

More likely Father/Son   

Thought it was weird they were literally standing within feet if not inches of the same spot, the same day, three years later.
Title: Re: Genetics or weird coincidence
Post by: fishnfur on November 22, 2014, 12:04:17 AM
I'm betting on two different deer.  The first has eye guards and seems to fit the provided description of an acorn buck - completely new to me.   The second buck , a year later, does not have eye guards but really cool inward hooking points. 

Great pictures, whatever the case.  The fact that they were in the same spot on two different years leaves me with but one question - what are the coordinates of that spot??  ;)
Title: Re: Genetics or weird coincidence
Post by: TommyH on November 22, 2014, 07:37:52 AM
I'm a whitetail guy. But the migration /travel routes these mulies do every year has me wishing I'd spend more time chasing them! Thanks for that bone! It's pretty sweet to return to a exact spot a year or two later and have the same  or similar encounters.
Title: Re: Genetics or weird coincidence
Post by: Biggerhammer on November 22, 2014, 09:41:13 AM
I've taken a buck with a simular tip here in Eastern WA.

(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi90.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fk269%2Flandonmoses%2FDSC00630_zpsdd7618ae.jpg&hash=f9e039326b8a931a3c54bb13335bde65eca71504) (http://s90.photobucket.com/user/landonmoses/media/DSC00630_zpsdd7618ae.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Genetics or weird coincidence
Post by: Kazekurt on November 22, 2014, 12:09:08 PM
The buck in my profile pic had 5 out of 8 Pts acorn tipped
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