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Title: What caller should I buy?
Post by: LeviD1 on November 24, 2014, 12:02:18 AM
So I have been looking at the foxpros and it seems like a good brand to buy. I want to buy one and not wish I would have got a different one later on so which call would you guys recommend that will last me and call in the coyotes effectively and one that I won't regret buying. I have some coyotes lordering around my property and I am thinking I deserve to buy myself a xmas present  :chuckle:
Title: Re: What caller should I buy?
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on November 24, 2014, 12:17:11 AM
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Title: Re: What caller should I buy?
Post by: AWS on November 24, 2014, 07:54:43 AM
They will all call coyotes!  Stand selection and understanding how to hunt coyotes will make up 90% of what it takes to successfully take coyotes.  I've called them with everything from the cheapest JS Attractor, homemade callers(Walkman cassette play and computer speaker) to higher end remote callers.

How dedicated are you.  Are you going to be hunting coyotes, just a couple outings a year or is this going to be a major part of your hunting.  What can you afford, can you buy a $500 dollar caller that might spend most of the year on the shelf when a $100 caller might do everything you want because you are never going to hunt enough to need or learn to how all the bells and whistles will work for you.  How important is being able to program your own sounds, do you need a remote.  Personally having rechargeable batteries is a pain for me as I hunt for days without ever getting near a place to plug in so mine run on AA's and I keep a couple extra loaded battery holders in my pocket.  I can't read without glasses and they are just a pain to where in the field so a remote that I have to scroll through sound just doesn't work for me. 

I've hunted with a pro-guide that used mouth calls most of the time and when he needed a e-caller he broke out a Spitfire, it did everything he needed.

I'm not a big FoxPro fan, most don't fit my hunting style BUT they are the name to have now. I suggest to a newbie to get one of the bottom end FoxPro's with a remote,  If you get bored or frustrated with coyote hunting before you make it through the learning curve you can set it on the shelf and not be out a lot of money or turn it quickly without much of a loss.  Once you've spent sometime out in the field you'll learn what features you need and can use and then spend the money for something that will actually help you put more fur on the boards. My BinL does control work for some farmers in NW WI and used a Western River with a Azden remote conversion for years and a couple of years ago to simplify things went to a FoxPro Spitfire, it works great for him and the farmers are happy.

Things to think about, CS and Reputation, callers are electric and are expected to operate in harsh conditions from AZ desert heat,  WA rainforest to ND Polar Expresses.  Remotes, , how far do you need, how easy is it to operate.  Sound list, how many do you really need and with the factory loaded list work for you or should you order from a place that will custom load a sound list. Things to think about.

I didn't tell you which is the best for you but just gave you some things to think about before your purchase
Title: Re: What caller should I buy?
Post by: Jingles on November 24, 2014, 08:14:42 AM
I can't speak for the other e callers but as far as Fox pro goes  I don't think you can beat them for bang for your buck.. A lot will depend on what you allocating for a budget.  AS far as after sale service goes you will not be able to beat FoxPro.
I have  Firestorm and am extremely pleased with it performance and portability and ease of use.  I get extremely good remote operation out to at least 60 yards and could probably go further if I decided or thought it needed to be farther away...
Depending on which Fox Pro caller you get, if you get a FoxPro, will depend on just how many sounds come stock but their list of available sounds is huge.  With mine it came with 50 sounds and I was able to custom pick the sounds at no additional charge but I got it directly from Fox Pro.
Give the guys at Fox Pro a call and talk to them they are extremely helpful 717-248-2507.
Title: Re: What caller should I buy?
Post by: bearmanric on November 24, 2014, 08:58:28 AM
I your starting out wildfire and Hand call's. A fusion if you have the money. Rick
Title: Re: What caller should I buy?
Post by: LeviD1 on November 24, 2014, 11:00:20 AM
I can spend up to around the $500 mark. I have quite a few coyotes around my property I bought a few months ago. I am just for the most part going to use it up there and a couple times a year other places. The area is wooded and I will be hunting with my bow so I just need the remote to work at about 30-40 yards. I gues you can say I wont be intensely hunting coyotes but I do like quality equipment and willing to spend the money on the good stuff just so I'm happy with it. I want a good sound quality and having it light weight doesnt matter much I only have to pack it about 300 yards. I just want to maybe stick some yotes while I go up there to check my cams.
Title: Re: What caller should I buy?
Post by: Bofire on November 24, 2014, 11:05:40 AM
go to the Foxpro site and read about them. You can hear sound samples. there is a forum and lots of callers for sale used and refurbished.
Carl
Title: Re: What caller should I buy?
Post by: huntingfool7 on November 24, 2014, 12:01:09 PM
I have the FoxPro Scorpion with remote and I really like it.  It's small enough that I can carry it while hunting other game.
Title: Re: What caller should I buy?
Post by: HUNTNORTHWEST on November 24, 2014, 12:31:37 PM
Helfire
Title: What caller should I buy?
Post by: HillSlick on November 24, 2014, 01:52:27 PM
I have a fox pro firestorm (I think that's what it is, will look this weekend an update) and it's awesome, calls in yotes like magic, 

There really are no bad fox pro callers IMHO


"Watch where ya goin, 'member where ya been, that's the way I see it, I'm a simple man"- Charlie Daniels
Title: Re: What caller should I buy?
Post by: jordanramos_79 on November 24, 2014, 01:54:25 PM
I dont know about the other models from foxpro but stay away from their least expensive model. I bought one from Cabelas on black friday and the remote never worked right so I exchanged it for another of the same model and it had the same problem. I returned it and ended up getting the Primos turbo dogg which has worked well for me.
Title: Re: What caller should I buy?
Post by: Bofire on November 24, 2014, 02:56:04 PM
Black friday which year?
Title: Re: What caller should I buy?
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on November 24, 2014, 03:21:40 PM
I want to hear Rainshadows reccomendation for a caller.  ;)
Coyotes are something I plan on killing, but I also want to use one for cougar and bear while it is still legal.  :twocents:
Title: Re: What caller should I buy?
Post by: jordanramos_79 on November 24, 2014, 03:53:22 PM
Bofire, it was two years ago if I remember correctly.
Title: Re: What caller should I buy?
Post by: Bofire on November 24, 2014, 05:36:11 PM
thanks, do you remember what that call was named? might be a help if shopping used.
Carl
Title: Re: What caller should I buy?
Post by: Jerry malbeck on November 24, 2014, 10:07:12 PM
For your budget My choice would be a fusion or a reconditoned CS24.You can find the recon CS24 on the FoxPro website www.gofoxpro.com (http://www.gofoxpro.com) The best of the best is the shockwave, Jerry .     
Title: Re: What caller should I buy?
Post by: jordanramos_79 on November 25, 2014, 07:02:13 AM
Bofire, I just googled the ad and it was the foxpro spitfire.
Title: Re: What caller should I buy?
Post by: Bofire on November 25, 2014, 09:10:31 AM
thanks, one model to take off the list.
Title: Re: What caller should I buy?
Post by: jasnt on November 25, 2014, 09:26:44 PM
I want to hear Rainshadows reccomendation for a caller.  ;)
Coyotes are something I plan on killing, but I also want to use one for cougar and bear while it is still legal.  :twocents:

his recommendation to me was the cs24 FoxPro
Title: Re: What caller should I buy?
Post by: FALFire on November 26, 2014, 07:39:00 AM
I currently run a FoxPro CS24, it has awesome sound, great battery life and excellent remote range. I also have two Minaska Bandits and an earlier produced Loudmouth caller all worked very well and called lots of dogs for me. The CS24 is the best of the callers I have used. FoxPro = good stuff!  :tup: It has never let me down.

These two from this past weekend while using the CS24 within about 5 to 7 minutes of calling.



(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv85%2FFALFire%2FIMG_2530_zpsf79991f7.jpg&hash=a6d8371bdca7d7bf8cfda20b29a6b2090c7baa76)
Title: Re: What caller should I buy?
Post by: Blackjaw on November 26, 2014, 08:24:02 AM
Another vote for FoxPro. If you are really going to get into predator hunting you always want to carry a good lanyard full of hand calls as well cause
1. you never know when your e-caller may take a dump
2. It is fun to hand call every once in awhile
Title: Re: What caller should I buy?
Post by: Big10gauge on November 26, 2014, 09:16:21 AM
I currently run a FoxPro CS24, it has awesome sound, great battery life and excellent remote range. I also have two Minaska Bandits and an earlier produced Loudmouth caller all worked very well and called lots of dogs for me. The CS24 is the best of the callers I have used. FoxPro = good stuff!  :tup: It has never let me down.

These two from this past weekend while using the CS24 within about 5 to 7 minutes of calling.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv85%2FFALFire%2FIMG_2530_zpsf79991f7.jpg&hash=a6d8371bdca7d7bf8cfda20b29a6b2090c7baa76)

Dang Gary, How many guns do you need to knock down a couple of coyotes?  :chuckle:

Just buy the best Foxpro can can easily afford
Title: Re: What caller should I buy?
Post by: FALFire on November 26, 2014, 09:48:23 AM
I currently run a FoxPro CS24, it has awesome sound, great battery life and excellent remote range. I also have two Minaska Bandits and an earlier produced Loudmouth caller all worked very well and called lots of dogs for me. The CS24 is the best of the callers I have used. FoxPro = good stuff!  :tup: It has never let me down.

These two from this past weekend while using the CS24 within about 5 to 7 minutes of calling.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv85%2FFALFire%2FIMG_2530_zpsf79991f7.jpg&hash=a6d8371bdca7d7bf8cfda20b29a6b2090c7baa76)

Dang Gary, How many guns do you need to knock down a couple of coyotes?  :chuckle:

Just buy the best Foxpro can can easily afford



SIX..... I had already carried out the other 4 before I took the photo!  8) I place'm facing east- west- north and south, I keep two extras just in case I get one sneaking in from above or from the rear.....them's sneaky batstids can come in from any direction and I want to be ready  :o
Title: Re: What caller should I buy?
Post by: KenPCPilot on November 26, 2014, 06:26:35 PM
I had a FP Firestorm and it worked great.  The handheld controller (TX 1000 I believe) had poor backlighting and was not as easy to use.  I sold it and purchased a FP Shockwave a very expensive unit.  I do love its ease of use long battery life but I hunt all year round so I get my use of it.  A lot of coyotes get shot on mouth calls so the call is only one part of the challenge and fun.  set up, camo, scent contro,l location, are almost as important.  My skills are still evolving and it took a lot of mistakes to improve my success. 
Title: Re: What caller should I buy?
Post by: fast1 on November 26, 2014, 07:47:20 PM
If you have the money and are dedicated, save your money and get the best you can afford. My first ecall was a Cass creek for about $30 and I think h :twocents:ad 4-5 sounds on it. It got dogs in but the sound would distort at higher volumes. Since then I've had a Johnny Stewart that takes different sound cartridges, worked good. Have a FoxPro scorpion X1B,hellfire and just got the fusion. X1B great sound, not the most volume, hellfire is loud as he!! but heavy, the fusion has yet to make it to the field but the dogs like it! Momma don't! But always keep a couple hand calls with ya. :twocents:
Title: Re: What caller should I buy?
Post by: Threewolves on November 30, 2014, 06:36:57 AM
IMO Best sound FoxPro shockwave. I had one and had to send it in for repair, even had to send the decoy in. They fixed it. I had problems again they gracioucly offered to repair it again. I guess I got the only lemon shockwave made. I sent it back to the store with documents of the first repair and copies of the email for the offer of the second repair and got my money back. The fox pro worshipers will talk about what great costomer service FoxPro has and they do they are great, but I do not want to have to keep sending it back to be fixed. My time like most people's time is limited I only hunt when the fur is prime. You will notice that these guys have more than one fox pro unit, I guess so you will have one to use while you have one in the shop.

Anyway, why not just use a hand call? I am back to that although I am thinking of trying another FoxPro shockwave based on others thinking the first was just a lemon, but I need to have a rock solid garenttee that is going to work every time I turn it on. Think about 600 for the unit,100 for battries, plus what ever for decoy, say 800, it should work like it is suppose to every time, my garage door opener does. Yep, a hand call and my old Burham brother compucaller turned down low vs a shockwave(when it works) with the sound going back an forth from each speaker and the sound level going up and down, it has to work though. If it worked you would not wish for anything else of course IMO.
Title: Re: What caller should I buy?
Post by: Toptwo on November 30, 2014, 07:43:24 AM
I just got my new FP Fusion via UPS yesterday. This is the first caller I have ever had. Played with it some last night in the house, and am looking forward to taking it out and giving it a try soon. Comes loaded with 100 sounds, and 12 stands, and has room for 13 more stands, and 900 more sounds. I feel very confident that I will love predator calling/hunting so I figured I would spend $500 up front rather then spend $200 first, then turn around and spend $500 to get the one I REALLY wanted in the first place. One thing I can tell you already though, the thing gets LOUD even before you consider getting external speakers AND even loaded with batteries it is very lightweight! Packing 2.5 lbs around in my daypack wont even be noticed!
Title: Re: What caller should I buy?
Post by: JJD on November 30, 2014, 08:36:48 AM
I can spend up to around the $500 mark. I have quite a few coyotes around my property I bought a few months ago. I am just for the most part going to use it up there and a couple times a year other places. The area is wooded and I will be hunting with my bow so I just need the remote to work at about 30-40 yards. I gues you can say I wont be intensely hunting coyotes but I do like quality equipment and willing to spend the money on the good stuff just so I'm happy with it. I want a good sound quality and having it light weight doesnt matter much I only have to pack it about 300 yards. I just want to maybe stick some yotes while I go up there to check my cams.
If hunting around your property is your goal and thats about all, I'd buy a decent mouth call, a mouth type squeeker and a decent instructional tape.  Often times new guys to the game believe you can call the same place over and over again.  Unless your property is in the hundreds of acres catergory, you can hunt a spot once or maybe twice a year "if" conditions are right.  They get educated very quickly.
There are more guys out there educating yotes than actually killing them.
Personally, if a was out to thin them out on my property I'd probably ambush them using a night vision scope.
Title: Re: What caller should I buy?
Post by: jasnt on November 30, 2014, 10:23:34 AM
I can spend up to around the $500 mark. I have quite a few coyotes around my property I bought a few months ago. I am just for the most part going to use it up there and a couple times a year other places. The area is wooded and I will be hunting with my bow so I just need the remote to work at about 30-40 yards. I gues you can say I wont be intensely hunting coyotes but I do like quality equipment and willing to spend the money on the good stuff just so I'm happy with it. I want a good sound quality and having it light weight doesnt matter much I only have to pack it about 300 yards. I just want to maybe stick some yotes while I go up there to check my cams.
If hunting around your property is your goal and thats about all, I'd buy a decent mouth call, a mouth type squeeker and a decent instructional tape.  Often times new guys to the game believe you can call the same place over and over again.  Unless your property is in the hundreds of acres catergory, you can hunt a spot once or maybe twice a year "if" conditions are right.  They get educated very quickly.
There are more guys out there educating yotes than actually killing them.
Personally, if a was out to thin them out on my property I'd probably ambush them using a night vision scope.
100% correct. I did this at my place when I first started coyote hunting. We have 320 acres and I over called it so bad even very experienced callers haven't been able to call in a coyote here.  I've slowly taken out most the older dogs by spot and stalk and night time ambush but still a few older dogs here that are smart as heck! I stopped calling here 3 years ago and some day I'll try it again when that old raspy male finally hits the dirt.
Title: Re: What caller should I buy?
Post by: LeviD1 on December 01, 2014, 12:02:48 PM
Are there any decent night vision scopes that arent thousands of dollars? Also any recommendations on some mouth calls? I gues I will look into all the options. Its not hundreds of acres, its 30 but there definitely quite a few coyotes in the area. night hunting may be more effective. 
Title: Re: What caller should I buy?
Post by: Magnum40 on December 01, 2014, 12:25:26 PM
I don't have any first hand experience but the Western Rivers Navejo has some good reviews...and is about $115.  Its on my christmas list.  I won't use it enough to justify something higher priced.  And like others said...I will be using it for some "problems" around the house/neighborhood so not expecting to be calling animals in over and over from the same spot.
Title: Re: What caller should I buy?
Post by: jasnt on December 01, 2014, 02:26:15 PM
Are there any decent night vision scopes that arent thousands of dollars? Also any recommendations on some mouth calls? I gues I will look into all the options. Its not hundreds of acres, its 30 but there definitely quite a few coyotes in the area. night hunting may be more effective. 
this could be a thread all in its self. I like my atn Aries 650. Just under $500  its 5x and has a great IR spot light.  Not the best picture but a good scope for the price my biggest complaint is it sits high relative to the bore on my rifle. Shoot at all distances and learn the ark.  Currently have it mounted on my shotgun. I like it much better on that.
Title: Re: What caller should I buy?
Post by: Payne on December 01, 2014, 09:16:50 PM
tag  :tup:
Title: Re: What caller should I buy?
Post by: Blackjaw on December 02, 2014, 09:20:28 AM
BearmanRic makes really good hand calls at a reasonable price.
Title: Re: What caller should I buy?
Post by: jasnt on December 02, 2014, 09:27:25 AM
BearmanRic makes really good hand calls at a reasonable price.
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