Post by: johng on November 28, 2014, 09:55:26 AM
It can only be one or the other, right? :chuckle:
Got him trolling a blue fox yesterday.... fought pretty good- not like a smallie but still a fun, albeit short, fight to the canoe because I didn't want him to come off the hook. Not sure how it will taste but the meat looks good. Let me know what you guys think.
Thanks,
- Jg
Post by: jasnt on November 28, 2014, 09:58:03 AM
Post by: sirmissalot on November 28, 2014, 10:00:26 AM
Post by: hollymaster on November 28, 2014, 10:01:13 AM
Post by: kodiak 907 on November 28, 2014, 10:02:44 AM
Post by: Bullkllr on November 28, 2014, 10:14:02 AM
Biggest factor is the spawner colors and hook-jaw of a male ready to spawn. Triploids are created to never reach spawner maturity. If the fish has well-developed milt sacks, it's definately a broodstocker.
From what I've heard the triploiding process is not 100% effective and some weird "triploid mutants" result- could be one of those :dunno:
Post by: boneaddict on November 28, 2014, 10:41:06 AM
Post by: MtnMuley on November 28, 2014, 11:34:21 AM
Looks like he caught in a net or something for a while around the belly and caused issues. :twocents:
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on November 28, 2014, 11:42:06 AM
Post by: billythekidrock on November 28, 2014, 12:07:39 PM
Post by: kodiak 907 on November 28, 2014, 12:31:26 PM
I have caught plenty of Trips with hooked jaws. Pretty common.
Post by: Bullkllr on November 28, 2014, 12:54:30 PM
:yeah:
I have caught plenty of Trips with hooked jaws. Pretty common.
So they still get that hook. Good to know...most I've seen didn't seem to have that much though. Still like to hear if he found any sperm sacks in it. That would be telling. It is a weird looking fish.
Post by: HunterStrait on November 28, 2014, 01:44:23 PM
Post by: MtnMuley on November 28, 2014, 02:50:40 PM
:yeah:
I have caught plenty of Trips with hooked jaws. Pretty common.
So they still get that hook. Good to know...most I've seen didn't seem to have that much though. Still like to hear if he found any sperm sacks in it. That would be telling. It is a weird looking fish.
Interesting. I've caught thousands of trips and never seen a hook.
Post by: kodiak 907 on November 28, 2014, 05:55:05 PM
Post by: jasnt on November 28, 2014, 06:42:41 PM
Most of them I caught in Rufus.same here. Last 8lb'er had a hook to its jaw. Some good colors too
Post by: kodiak 907 on November 28, 2014, 07:09:04 PM
Post by: Bullkllr on November 28, 2014, 07:14:17 PM
Found this: http://wildlife.utah.gov/fes/pdf/vol_12-1.pdf (http://wildlife.utah.gov/fes/pdf/vol_12-1.pdf)
"Triploid males still produce sperm, but the sperm duct is blocked, preventing fertilization."
and
"Half of these develop as true males, but the other half are sex-reversed and become phenotypic males, but are genotypic females (i.e., they look and produce sperm like males, but genetically they are female)."
So what I am guessing is the fish in the pic is either a really frustrated male triploid with his 'sperm duct blocked' (ouch!), or the other male/female triploid...which is too strange for words.
Post by: jasnt on November 28, 2014, 07:18:38 PM
Post by: Skyvalhunter on November 28, 2014, 07:54:52 PM
Post by: kodiak 907 on November 28, 2014, 08:01:36 PM
Post by: MtnMuley on November 28, 2014, 10:24:10 PM
Most of them I caught in Rufus.same here. Last 8lb'er had a hook to its jaw. Some good colors too
Even more interesting. Every one I have caught and have seen caught was there or raised from rufus as well. From 1 to 29 plus lbs and still never seen a hook. Several hundred over 9 lbs as well.
Post by: jasnt on November 28, 2014, 11:17:08 PM
Post by: HarboritE on November 29, 2014, 05:52:24 PM
Post by: kodiak 907 on November 29, 2014, 06:09:29 PM
That is one gnarly looking fish .Ive probably only caught 20 triploids but none have ever had pink meat, all white. I don't think they last long enough in our westside stagnant lakes. I wanna see how this fish cut! I like the variety of items on his bench.Bible , pill bottle, big ugly slimy fish :chuckle::yeah: :chuckle: looks like all the fixins for a party!
Post by: Skillet on November 29, 2014, 06:11:07 PM
Most of them I caught in Rufus.same here. Last 8lb'er had a hook to its jaw. Some good colors too
Even more interesting. Every one I have caught and have seen caught was there or raised from rufus as well. From 1 to 29 plus lbs and still never seen a hook. Several hundred over 9 lbs as well.
:yeah: I've caught quite a few trips on Rufus over the last eight years or so, no hooked jaws. Not nearly as many as mtnmuley, but enough of the bigger ones to share his opinion.
Post by: Bullkllr on November 29, 2014, 07:57:21 PM
:yeah: Throw in steel shot, pliers, a dog collar, and towels. Not sure what the steel shot would be for...That is one gnarly looking fish .Ive probably only caught 20 triploids but none have ever had pink meat, all white. I don't think they last long enough in our westside stagnant lakes. I wanna see how this fish cut! I like the variety of items on his bench.Bible , pill bottle, big ugly slimy fish :chuckle::yeah: :chuckle: looks like all the fixins for a party!
Post by: MtnMuley on November 29, 2014, 08:31:01 PM
Got pic of the 29lb'er? :drool:I don't anymore. It's the state record a friend caught. Was well over 30 before he got It to a certified scale. I'll see if It can get a pic of it in a kiddy pool with ice. Amazing sight for sure.
Post by: HUNTIN4SIX on November 29, 2014, 09:19:33 PM
Post by: johng on November 29, 2014, 11:26:30 PM
Well, thank you for all the comments- scientific, funny, honest and complimentary. Yes, it isn't the prettiest looking fish. :)
It beat getting skunked that day though and it was fun to catch.
SO..... the question some people wanted answered, including myself, was how did it taste? I am happy to report that it tasted just fine. It wasn't mushy and baked at 350 in the oven with the standard of lemon, butter, salt, pepper and some parsley it was good. Not awesome but it didn't have to go to the dogs so I am thankful for that.
Tight Lines!
Post by: HarboritE on November 30, 2014, 04:15:10 AM