Hunting Washington Forum
Equipment & Gear => Guns and Ammo => Topic started by: cboom on December 01, 2014, 10:28:18 PM
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Do you reload?
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Start with the lightest load you can get your hands on or reload. If the first shot spooks her you may lose her, or she may develop a nasty flinch. Up to 200 yards, reduced recoil loads work just fine on deer.
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Pick the bullet you want to hunt with and ladder test it.
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Same cartridge and same rifle I shoot, except mine's not the stainless. I sure don't think you need to mess with the bedding, it should shoot great right out of the box. Mine does, and all I've ever changed on it is the trigger spring. At least shoot it first and see how it does. Mine shoots Winchester Power Point factory ammo really well, 130 or 150 grain. I would start out with those, if you're not a handloader, and use the 130's since they will recoil less. I really don't think you need to use the reduced recoil loads.
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Oh, I just saw that you do reload. Use a relatively fast powder, maybe 4064, or anything just a step faster then 4350. I've experimented with IMR3031 just because I had some and didn't have a use for it. With about 45 grains and a 130 grain bullet, it shoots plenty fast and recoils very little. It felt like about half the recoil of my normal load of 58 grains of H4831 with a 150 grain bullet.
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After her first session with the 270 you want her to say "that was fun; when can we shoot again?"
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No I don't believe I did with those loads but I'd guess they're pretty close to to Hornady's 2675.
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My wife is about the same size as yours and shoots a .270. Great choice! I have been loading Barnes 110 gr. TTSX using H4350. That thing shoots clover leafs and she can shoot twenty in a session and not flinch or whine. I had started her rifle out in a traditional weight ( for a .270) 130 gr. TSX. It also shoots those very well with H4350.
But the reduced recoil of the lower weight bullet is a real plus. Muzzle velocity is between 3300 and 3350. (Not at home to check notebook). H4831 is another very good choice for a .270.
We are lucky to have lots of excellent projectile choices out there so we don't necessarily have to load things heavy and hot. Best of luck with your wife's rifle.
Hopefully she will really get to feeling proud of it. My Grandmother hunted for years with a Mannlicher .270. Lots of deer and elk. Wouldn't let anyone else touch her rifle!
Good Luck!
Wsmnut
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That 110 grain Barnes is another good option for a low recoil round. :tup:
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I use IMR-4064 with 110 sierra pro hunter. It has a light recoil and a hoot to shoot. Lots of fun. Darn good way to hook the wife on a .270.
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I would say you are well on the way to creating a fine load with those TTSX bullets. IMR-4350 should work great. For slightly less velocity and less muzzle blast 4320 would get a hard look also. :tup: :tup:
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If you can't find any 110gr. Barnes, the 110gr V-max shoots really well. That's what I use in mine 270, and yes it will knock the crap out of a deer.
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Looks like he's already got two boxes of the Barnes 110's. :dunno:
As far as powder, I normally would use 4831 or 4350, but with the light bullets and the powders you have available, I think I'd try the 4320 first. My Hodgdon book shows a starting load of 47 grains of 4320 with a 110 grain bullet. I think I'd just go with that, and hope it's accurate enough. The book shows just a hair under 3,000 fps with that load, and I don't see any need to try to push it faster, not when you're wanting to keep recoil as low as possible for your wife.
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My wife is about the same size as yours and shoots a .270. Great choice! I have been loading Barnes 110 gr. TTSX using H4350. That thing shoots clover leafs and she can shoot twenty in a session and not flinch or whine. I had started her rifle out in a traditional weight ( for a .270) 130 gr. TSX. It also shoots those very well with H4350.
But the reduced recoil of the lower weight bullet is a real plus. Muzzle velocity is between 3300 and 3350. (Not at home to check notebook). H4831 is another very good choice for a .270.
We are lucky to have lots of excellent projectile choices out there so we don't necessarily have to load things heavy and hot. Best of luck with your wife's rifle.
Hopefully she will really get to feeling proud of it. My Grandmother hunted for years with a Mannlicher .270. Lots of deer and elk. Wouldn't let anyone else touch her rifle!
Good Luck!
Wsmnut
This..... :tup:!
Lighter bullets along with the Limbsaver will go a long ways in reducing felt recoil. The venerable 130gr. weighted bullet as the optimal bullet weight for a .270 has somewhat petered out with the debut of several new bullets. Like Wsmnut, I have found the 110gr. TTSX to do whatever I need of it and then some. As tenacious as some individual animals can be, deer are in general, fragile animals by comparison.
Any 'hunting bullet' in most any weight in .277 will do the job when placed properly, but your inquiry deals with the overall comfort in shooting/hunting for your wife. I can think of no better combination than a lighter bullet and the Limbsaver. I was a 'heavy for' handloader prior to both the TTSX's and the TSX's coming out..........no more. The result has been less recoil, the best accuracy of any loads I had worked up, incredible terminal results, almost none (if any) lost blood shot meat and perhaps most important, even more confidence at the shot that all would go well if I did my part. What's not to like....?... :).
FWIW - bedding and free floating, if done properly, has never enlarged my groups. It has, however, always tightened them up along with the added benefit of not having to wonder, had I not, that my groups could be even smaller/tighter had I put in that little bit of extra stock/barrel work. The work done up front oftentimes makes the outcome both more efficient and wastes less time and monies in the long run.
Bonus......if and when your wife does hang up her huntin' boots or you simply have to rely on this particular .270 as your primary weapon someday for whatever reason, you can confidently do so as there's no deer alive that this 110gr. TTSX can't face plant as well or better than any other heavier, more recoiling .277 bullet. And by my experiences and many others, take home a bit more meat, as well.
Good luck and I hope that you and your wife can share these unique experiences for years to come......... :tup:.
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Can't say enough about a good Limbsaver. My go to is a Ruger All weather. This is the stainless with the skinny plastic type stock. The rilfe is a beast. It has kick and I am admittedly a bit recoil shy, or at least I was with the factory good for nothing pad on it. I put a limsaver and now can shoot all day if need be.
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Can't say enough about a good Limbsaver. My go to is a Ruger All weather. This is the stainless with the skinny plastic type stock. The rifle is a beast. It has kick and I am admittedly a bit recoil shy, or at least I was with the factory good for nothing pad on it. I put a limbsaver and now can shoot all day if need be.
Do you have a pic of the limbsaver on your ruger? I have a couple of the same gun with the zytel (skeleton/boat paddle stock). I was wonder how you got it to match up? Cut the stock down or add to overall length.
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Good that you have her interested in hunting.
When teaching my kids and wife to shoot their deer rifles, I loaded 28.0 grains of H4895 under the cheapest jacketed bullets I could find. Varying the powder charge can get the rifle hitting dead on at 100 yards. Then you should be close to 2" high at 100 yds with hunting loads.
The practice loads go bang, have a bit of recoil, and let them practice actually hitting targets. I always require new hunters to practice until they can pass the paper plate test. This consists of hitting a 10" paper plate at 100 yards, 5 hits out of 5 shots, using any FIELD position they wish. This means no pickup hoods or bench rests.
BTW, small variations of this load work in .270, .280, and 30-06 rifles.
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Very cool!! Looks like its dialed in. Did you ever bed the rifle? Like said above, the stalkers are about as good as they come out of the box. Would not think the rifle needs a bedding job. Mine shot/shoots great right out of the box.
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A big +1! On the Limbsaver recoil pads. I've got them on most of our rifles. Easy to install and they fit very well. And they're from a Washington Company. What's not to like?
Wsmnut
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Shelton, WA.....last I knew.
Great company and wonderful customer service...... :tup: