Post by: BULLBLASTER on December 04, 2014, 08:18:57 AM
Idaho is bore diameter lead and loose pack powder.
Post by: whacker1 on December 04, 2014, 08:28:26 AM
triple seven loose performs better and burns cleaner than pellets anyway, so stick to loose pack powder in ffg or fffg. i find triple seven by Hodgdon burns the cleanest.
as far as switching back and forth between Lead and sabots.....I would find the lead combination that shoots best first, as muzzleloaders can be finicky and it isn't like going to the range and racking brass through the bolt cycle. It takes more time to find the best load. If you have time I usually like to mount a scope to determine what shoots best. This takes a lot of the user error out of the equation with regard to open sites. Then start playing with the Sabot variety for Washington. The knew copper Barnes varieties and Knight Bloodlines to provide a lot of advantages over the lead both in flight and internal damage.
Williams FP rear peep and Willaims front ramp with fire sight and site hood after you switch to open sights
You can talk to SabotLoader on this as he is one of the more knowledgeable about both Washington and Idaho regulations to include Knight products.
I would be happy to help show you some pointers to keep you from buying too much crap you don't want or won't use as I have learned it all the hard way.
Post by: BULLBLASTER on December 04, 2014, 08:35:07 AM
The williams sights are on my list as well. I have a bit of experience muzzleloading but just borrowing a gun and shooting whatever the owner told me. :chuckle: was going to try no excuses for lead bullets. And barnes or sst for wa.
Post by: whacker1 on December 04, 2014, 08:40:05 AM
Thanks whacker! I was planning on trying triple7 loose. I know nothing regarding to ffg or fffg but will learn i guess.
The williams sights are on my list as well. I have a bit of experience muzzleloading but just borrowing a gun and shooting whatever the owner told me. :chuckle: was going to try no excuses for lead bullets. And barnes or sst for wa.
ffg burns a little slower and fffg burns a little faster/hotter.
I shoot fffg in my .54 to try to remove any chance of a hangfire. However with that said they both shoot great. I shoot a little less powder in the fffg.
You might find your gun likes one over the other.
knight doesn't make the bloodline in the .54 otherwise I would probably go to that as it seems the most lethal, but i have no shot a buck and bull with the Barnes Expander MZ with great results.
Connect with me this winter and I will show you what I have and what i prefer and where to get them. Some stuff can be bought locally and much of the rest needs to be ordered.
I haven't shot lead for a while, but I know what shot well for me before. I bet it will come down to what shoots and what fits down the barrel. Some of these barrels can be tight to get the lead bullets down.
Post by: jackelope on December 04, 2014, 09:15:49 AM
I could be wrong, I haven't paid much attention. I will also have a Disc Extreme here one of these days whenever I find the time to get down south so I'm tagging this thread.
Post by: whacker1 on December 04, 2014, 09:27:37 AM
Post by: whacker1 on December 04, 2014, 09:28:51 AM
Post by: BULLBLASTER on December 05, 2014, 11:23:36 AM
Pound of ffg triple 7
musket caps
Musket capper
small powder flask
powder measure
some cpeaning supplies
Getting excited to shoot! Probly wait till after christmas tho.
Still need antiseize grease and plumbers tape as well as a new peep sight (hoping santa brings it) and some bullets.
Post by: teanawayslayer on December 05, 2014, 06:07:35 PM
Post by: Smokepole on December 05, 2014, 07:01:23 PM
Post by: Damnimissed on December 05, 2014, 07:30:54 PM
IMO I would go with #11 nipple and caps. They fit quite a bit tighter on the nipple allowing less moisture in. Plus they don't fall off like musket caps are prone to do. I use the cci #11 magnum caps. They work great or the dinamit noble are even better. :twocents:. You will love your disc. I have had mine for 4 years and it kills every thing I point it at.:yeah:
Post by: huntnnw on December 08, 2014, 05:30:19 AM
Post by: Damnimissed on December 08, 2014, 06:42:45 AM
Not me...I have yet to have a musket cap misfire over the years..versus the short time I hunted with #11's and had hangfires and misfiresIn what rifle? With what powder? What brand of cap?
Post by: huntnnw on December 08, 2014, 06:47:32 AM
Post by: Damnimissed on December 08, 2014, 08:27:42 AM
Post by: BULLBLASTER on December 08, 2014, 09:43:58 AM
Post by: andersonjk4 on December 08, 2014, 04:30:59 PM
Post by: BULLBLASTER on December 08, 2014, 04:46:05 PM
I have a bunch of sabots you can try (Horandy 250grn SST, Barnes 250grn TMZ, Scorpion-Harvester, and Nosler 300grn MZ). Maybe we can get together and shoot sometime. I need to spend some time testing loads as well.for sure. We should shoot sometime! Im gonna try and get some 290 barnes sometime. More worried about getting a good idaho load together.
Post by: kerrdog on December 13, 2014, 09:03:11 PM
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Post by: BULLBLASTER on December 13, 2014, 09:13:13 PM
What about those new Federal B.O.R bullets? are those legal in Idaho? It's got a fiberglass base, but it stays on the bullet and it's bull bore.idaho requires bore diameter (within .01) all lead projectile.
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