Post by: netcoyote on December 08, 2014, 10:34:35 AM
http://www.wpr.org/beloit-police-ask-residents-volunteer-have-their-homes-searched-guns (http://www.wpr.org/beloit-police-ask-residents-volunteer-have-their-homes-searched-guns)
Beloit Police Ask Residents To Volunteer To Have Their Homes Searched For Guns
Chief Of Police Says He Hopes Initiative Can Help Residents Begin Thinking Differently About Guns
Friday, December 5, 2014, 8:45pm
By Gilman Halsted
Police in Beloit are launching a new effort to reduce gun violence in which they're asking city residents to volunteer to have police search their homes for guns.
Police Chief Norm Jacobs said he doesn't expect the phone to be ringing off the hook with requests for police to search their homes. He nevertheless hopes the program will encourage people to think about gun violence as an infectious disease like Ebola, and a home inspection like a vaccine to help build up the city's immune system.
"Gun violence is as serious as the Ebola virus is being represented in the media, and we should fight it using the tools that we've learned from our health providers,” he said.
Jacobs said he hopes some searches will result in the discovery of guns they didn't know were in their own homes. He said that there’s also a chance they’ll find guns linked to crimes.
“That's really what we're looking for,” he said. “Maybe we'll find a toy gun that's been altered by a youngster in the house — and we know the tragedies that can occur there on occasion.”
There have been seven gun homicides in Beloit this year. Four of the victims were teenagers or young men in their 20s — like Melisha Holloway's 20-year-old son Raymond, who was killed in April. Holloway said too many young men have given up on school.
“Pretty much all those kids and young men just need to be is educated,” said Holloway. “You have a lot of them that barely read at a fifth-grade level yet they're 25 year-old-men. But they know how to work a gun. There's something wrong with that picture."
This week, 20-year-old Jajuan Logan was sentenced to 12 years in prison for Holloway's murder.
Editor's Note: This article is part of a Wisconsin Public Radio year-long series tracking all gun-related homicides in Wisconsin.
Post by: JimmyHoffa on December 08, 2014, 10:42:04 AM
How would this go over if it applied to illegal aliens?
Post by: pianoman9701 on December 08, 2014, 11:22:54 AM
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Post by: pianoman9701 on December 08, 2014, 02:31:39 PM
Chief needs to volunteer to have his head examined.
Actually, the chief must be pretty smart. If he can get access to people's homes, he can make some busts on unrelated charges and is able to make a security assessment of the people in his town. You can't blame a guy for trying.
Post by: timberfaller on December 09, 2014, 08:42:22 AM
History does repeat itself :yike:
Post by: pianoman9701 on December 09, 2014, 09:09:56 AM
The Chief had he been in Germany during a not to long ago era, would have "fit" very well into a group later to know as the SS.
History does repeat itself :yike:
The SS didn't ask. I'm not thrilled about this request; don't get me wrong. However, I'd be less thrilled with someone stupid enough to agree with it.
Post by: Stein on December 09, 2014, 09:30:32 AM
Hoping they'll find guns people didn't realize they had in their own homes??!! Did I actually read that right? That would indicate that the police plan to do more than just come in and visually inspect guns that the homeowner provides for viewing. That would entail a top to bottom search of the entire building, possibly using dogs? CRAZY!!
You never know when your kid may have turned a nerf gun into an AK-47:
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Maybe we'll find a toy gun that's been altered by a youngster in the house
1984 isn't an instruction manual.
I can't imagine anyone who would even consider having their home voluntarily ransacked.
Post by: Stein on December 09, 2014, 09:34:37 AM
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Actually, the chief must be pretty smart. If he can get access to people's homes, he can make some busts on unrelated charges and is able to make a security assessment of the people in his town. You can't blame a guy for trying.
Yeah you can. I would prefer my police chief to be chasing bad guys as opposed to suckering and harassing innocent citizens. A cop that has this much disregard for his constituents should be sent packing. This is feel good nonsense to hide the fact that they are not effectively policing.
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“Pretty much all those kids and young men just need to be is educated"
Yeah, if we held Reading Rainbow every afternoon our gang problem would dissolve. Sounds reasonable to me.
Post by: jackmaster on December 09, 2014, 12:34:10 PM
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Post by: lokidog on December 09, 2014, 12:48:23 PM
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Post by: netcoyote on December 09, 2014, 01:21:02 PM
Unless those of us who cherish our 2nd Amendment take enough countermeasures to combat this war of ideas, we will slowly loose, not only our gun rights, but a whole lot of freedom along with it.
Post by: JimmyHoffa on December 09, 2014, 01:30:16 PM
I see this as part of a larger strategy. Even if the perpetrators of this foolish idea realized that it would be perceived as stupid by some, they will have planted the seed of the notion that "guns" are indeed part of the problem and police should be empowered to confiscate them whatever the cost of civil liberty. The anti-guns are keeping the pressure on and slowly creating the larger narrative that guns are just generally something to be feared and restricted. It's all about marketing the idea.:yeah: It will desensitize people to these kinds of police tactics. The ones volunteering probably vote and would be in Moms Demand Action type groups. Then they would force it on others in some way.
Unless those of us who cherish our 2nd Amendment take enough countermeasures to combat this war of ideas, we will slowly loose, not only our gun rights, but a whole lot of freedom along with it.
Post by: Elkaholic daWg on December 10, 2014, 04:52:41 AM
Anyone surprised at the source?
Post by: csaaphill on December 10, 2014, 10:45:10 PM
but all say I have a :tinfoil:
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Post by: addicted2hunting on December 11, 2014, 07:16:08 PM
BTW... love that nerf gun comment... soo funny. :chuckle:
Post by: csaaphill on December 11, 2014, 11:55:31 PM
I swear are people really getting this retarded???:yeah: sadly ya.
Post by: Dave Workman on December 12, 2014, 07:18:16 AM
:rolleyes:
:bash:
Beloit police withdraws chief’s offer of home searches for guns
The Beloit, Wisconsin Police Department today withdrew an offer made by Chief Norm Jacobs to have officers search homes for firearms after publicity over the proposal created a public outcry.
http://www.examiner.com/article/breaking-beloit-police-withdraws-chief-s-offer-of-home-searches-for-guns (http://www.examiner.com/article/breaking-beloit-police-withdraws-chief-s-offer-of-home-searches-for-guns)
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Post by: csaaphill on December 15, 2014, 12:11:55 AM
You guys need to read my stuff more often:read that but that didn't come out until later so it was gona happen until people started to take notice. just shows how easly stuff like this can and will happen if people don't smarten up!
:rolleyes:
:bash:
Beloit police withdraws chief’s offer of home searches for guns
The Beloit, Wisconsin Police Department today withdrew an offer made by Chief Norm Jacobs to have officers search homes for firearms after publicity over the proposal created a public outcry.
http://www.examiner.com/article/breaking-beloit-police-withdraws-chief-s-offer-of-home-searches-for-guns (http://www.examiner.com/article/breaking-beloit-police-withdraws-chief-s-offer-of-home-searches-for-guns)
Post by: birddogdad on December 23, 2014, 08:32:04 AM
There are so many things wrong here, I just don't know where to start. I don't know if this is just more liberal propaganda from the media or there really are some people who think that people volunteering for the cops to search homes is a good thing. Wonder how well this would go over in Fergusen, MO
http://www.wpr.org/beloit-police-ask-residents-volunteer-have-their-homes-searched-guns (http://www.wpr.org/beloit-police-ask-residents-volunteer-have-their-homes-searched-guns)
Beloit Police Ask Residents To Volunteer To Have Their Homes Searched For Guns
Chief Of Police Says He Hopes Initiative Can Help Residents Begin Thinking Differently About Guns
Friday, December 5, 2014, 8:45pm
By Gilman Halsted
Police in Beloit are launching a new effort to reduce gun violence in which they're asking city residents to volunteer to have police search their homes for guns.
Police Chief Norm Jacobs said he doesn't expect the phone to be ringing off the hook with requests for police to search their homes. He nevertheless hopes the program will encourage people to think about gun violence as an infectious disease like Ebola, and a home inspection like a vaccine to help build up the city's immune system.
"Gun violence is as serious as the Ebola virus is being represented in the media, and we should fight it using the tools that we've learned from our health providers,” he said.
Jacobs said he hopes some searches will result in the discovery of guns they didn't know were in their own homes. He said that there’s also a chance they’ll find guns linked to crimes.
“That's really what we're looking for,” he said. “Maybe we'll find a toy gun that's been altered by a youngster in the house — and we know the tragedies that can occur there on occasion.”
There have been seven gun homicides in Beloit this year. Four of the victims were teenagers or young men in their 20s — like Melisha Holloway's 20-year-old son Raymond, who was killed in April. Holloway said too many young men have given up on school.
“Pretty much all those kids and young men just need to be is educated,” said Holloway. “You have a lot of them that barely read at a fifth-grade level yet they're 25 year-old-men. But they know how to work a gun. There's something wrong with that picture."
This week, 20-year-old Jajuan Logan was sentenced to 12 years in prison for Holloway's murder.
Editor's Note: This article is part of a Wisconsin Public Radio year-long series tracking all gun-related homicides in Wisconsin.
Post by: bigmacc on December 23, 2014, 07:15:02 PM
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Post by: Sitka_Blacktail on December 23, 2014, 07:42:28 PM
https://www.yahoo.com/parenting/monumentally-stupid-anti-gun-psa-urges-kids-to-105981246517.html (https://www.yahoo.com/parenting/monumentally-stupid-anti-gun-psa-urges-kids-to-105981246517.html)
And the video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFOhBAH3zPA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFOhBAH3zPA)