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Community => Advocacy, Agencies, Access => Topic started by: stevemiller on December 09, 2014, 03:23:11 AM

Title: To much spent to close to election day
Post by: stevemiller on December 09, 2014, 03:23:11 AM: I was reading through a bunch of stuff on the I-594 crowd,I see several news reports and such on how much who contributed and when they did.I see that Bloomberg Donated another 300k to the cause the week of the 25th of Oct.,If this is true then they broke the law about contribution 21 days prior to vote on Initiatives set at $5000 for any person or group.Then I got to thinking about who else did this and how much was contributed after this deadline. Anyone have any Ideas on this?CAMPAIGN FINANCE REQUIREMENTS FOR WA. STATE

READS AS FOLLOWS.WA. STATE LIMITS ANY PERSON OR OTHER COMITTEE TO DONATING $5000 IN THE LAST 21 DAYS OF THE ELECTION.STATE PARTY ORGINIZATIONS ARE EXEMPT.
Title: Re: To much spent to close to election day
Post by: pianoman9701 on December 09, 2014, 06:12:05 AM: Please cite the section location.
Title: Re: To much spent to close to election day
Post by: stevemiller on December 09, 2014, 10:26:01 AM: Of the law or where it says he donated?
Title: Re: To much spent to close to election day
Post by: stevemiller on December 09, 2014, 10:34:50 AM: Ballotpedia:Laws governing the Initiative process in Washington.Section 1.6 (Funding an initiative campaign)
Title: Re: To much spent to close to election day
Post by: Special T on December 09, 2014, 10:42:49 AM: I wonder if it could be thrown out then? We could only hope!
Title: Re: To much spent to close to election day
Post by: stevemiller on December 09, 2014, 10:51:34 AM: Well Im just thinking way outside the box.The more things that we can find wrong with this thing and a list compiled for a compitant att.we should be able to have this thing over turned.I just hope that all the info we can get gets to the right hands.I hope Dave Workman sees some of the posts that people are putting on the forum for this.
Title: Re: To much spent to close to election day
Post by: pianoman9701 on December 09, 2014, 10:52:05 AM: Quote from: stevemiller on December 09, 2014, 10:26:01 AM
Of the law or where it says he donated?

The law.

I doubt we could get it thrown out but there may be penalties for the offending parties.
Title: Re: To much spent to close to election day
Post by: stevemiller on December 09, 2014, 11:01:25 AM: Quote from: stevemiller on December 09, 2014, 10:34:50 AM
Ballotpedia:Laws governing the Initiative process in Washington.Section 1.6 (Funding an initiative campaign)
Here.You can also read up on the loop hole I suggested it the HOW MANY TIMES HAVE YOU VIOLATED I 594 SO FAR THREAD. LOL
Title: Re: To much spent to close to election day
Post by: pianoman9701 on December 09, 2014, 11:23:46 AM: I wrote to the WA Public Disclosure Commission who checks into campaign finance: http://www.pdc.wa.gov/. (http://www.pdc.wa.gov/.) Their email is pdc@pdc.wa.gov.

"Dear Sirs/Madams,

I believe the $5,000 within 21 days rule was violated by several parties with regards to the passage of I-594 in WA. Please check into individual donors and groups, including but not limited to Moms Demand Action, EveryTown for Gun Safety, Washington Alliance for Gun Responsibility, Michael Bloomberg, Paul Allen, Steve Ballmer, Connie Ballmer, Bill and Melinda Gates, Nick Hanauer, Mayors Against Illegal Guns, Ann Wyckoff.

Thanks you for looking into this. I look forward to hearing what you come up with.

--
Most Sincerely,"
PMan
Title: Re: To much spent to close to election day
Post by: stevemiller on December 09, 2014, 11:33:54 AM: Thank you sir I appreciate that.
Title: Re: To much spent to close to election day
Post by: JimmyHoffa on December 09, 2014, 11:36:00 AM: good find steve, I'd like to see more about this too.
Title: Re: To much spent to close to election day
Post by: pianoman9701 on December 12, 2014, 10:51:02 AM: Unfortunate reply from PDC:

"Dear Mr. Pianoman,

Thank you for your email. RCW 42.17A.420 requires that contributions to a political action committee (PAC) in excess of $5,000 in the aggregate must be timed so that they are received more than 21 days before a general election; within the 21-day period, contributions are capped at $5,000. Outside of the 21-day period before the general election, there is no limit in Washington State law on contributions to a PAC.

However, following the 2011 decision of the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals in Family PAC v. McKenna, the 21-day timing provision of RCW 42.17A.420 does not apply to contributions made to a ballot proposition committee, including the Everytown for Gun Safety Action Fund for I-594. This means that the sources you listed would be permitted to make contributions exceeding $5,000 to the I-594 committee during the 21 days before the election.

If you have other questions, please contact Phil Stutzman, the PDC’s Director of Compliance, at 360-664-8853. Thank you for contacting the PDC.

Sincerely,
Tony Perkins | Assistant Director
Washington State Public Disclosure Commission
711 Capitol Way, Room 206 | PO Box 40908, Olympia, WA 98504-0908
(direct) 360.586.1042 | (toll free) 1.877.601.2828
tony.perkins@pdc.wa.gov
Title: Re: To much spent to close to election day
Post by: KNOPHISH on December 12, 2014, 11:00:40 AM: What a loop hole for the scum bags? :bash: we need to close the loop hole so crooks can't donate. yep I got that right cuz they're stealing our freedom.
Title: Re: To much spent to close to election day
Post by: pianoman9701 on December 12, 2014, 11:05:40 AM: Quote from: KNOPHISH on December 12, 2014, 11:00:40 AM
What a loop hole for the scum bags? :bash: we need to close the loop hole so crooks can't donate. yep I got that right cuz they're stealing our freedom.

Actually that was a ruling of unconstitutionality on parts of the $5k within 21 rule. I believe it was a ruling of 1st Amendment infringement.