Post by: fly4fish on December 10, 2014, 03:10:08 AM
I feel most resident shed hunters will have a license already, so it wouldn't hurt them. While nonresidents would have to buy a nonresident hunting license, thus charging them for taking something of value and liquidity out of WA. WA would benefit from more nonresident hunting licenses sold without extra effort. It's a win for everybody, except nonresidents who will have to pay $200, which is nothing compared to what they spend in one month on expenses and earnings lost.
I use to enjoy a few outings a year, but the competition is too much for me now. I would like to see the F&G make a little money off sheds like the state does everything else from Christmas trees to mushrooms. Seems like a no brainer, but I;ve never heard it mentioned before. What do you think?
Post by: Bean Counter on December 10, 2014, 03:25:19 AM
Post by: bearpaw on December 10, 2014, 03:56:25 AM
What do the shed hunters think of requiring a hunting license?
I didn't know there were many non-residents shed hunting in Washington, isn't it mostly residents?
If you shed in another state do you need any license?
Would you buy a license to shed hunt in another state or would you just quit going?
Post by: fly4fish on December 10, 2014, 04:21:27 AM
Why limit the permit to sheds? We should require a permit just to access state lands. Maybe one to take photographs of public landscapes as well...
No permit required. Just a valid hunting license. Accessing state lands and photographing them does not remove a valuable object.
Post by: fly4fish on December 10, 2014, 04:41:18 AM
Everyone is already paying to access state lands! Discover Pass....
What do the shed hunters think of requiring a hunting license?
I didn't know there were many non-residents shed hunting in Washington, isn't it mostly residents?
If you shed in another state do you need any license?
Would you buy a license to shed hunt in another state or would you just quit going?
Everyone is already paying to access state lands! Discover Pass....
What do the shed hunters think of requiring a hunting license?
Not sure; that's why I am asking. I bet most WA shed hunters already buy them as most are hunters. Those who aren't would have to buy a hunting license for $40, which is less the worth of an average shed, not matched.
I didn't know there were many non-residents shed hunting in Washington, isn't it mostly residents?
In the Blues, especially on the east end, I bet there are more nonresidents than residents. These guys are crazy about it, devoting a whole month, many making a bunch of money by selling as soon as they get them (as I have done myself). Of course, many do it for the love of it; some having never sold one.
If you shed in another state do you need any license?
I do not know the rules of other states.
Would you buy a license to shed hunt in another state or would you just quit going?
Most shed hunters that take it seriously would pay out of state license fees, as they can make that much cash in a day. I personally would not pay $200. I would either shed hunt my own state, private property or quit. Either way, the state is making money or there are less people pushing elk around in their wintering grounds and taking the sheds that residents could be picking up and potentially selling in the state they were found in.
Post by: grundy53 on December 10, 2014, 04:51:49 AM
Post by: boneaddict on December 10, 2014, 05:00:26 AM
Post by: Miles on December 10, 2014, 05:05:26 AM
Would it be wise to require a valid WA hunting license to posses deer and elk sheds on public lands?
The worst idea I've heard in a long time.
Post by: bearpaw on December 10, 2014, 05:21:20 AM
Some states do have shed hunting seasons to prevent abuse during critical wintering times. But I don't think any state requires a license, someone please correct me if I am wrong.
I often hear hunters say they want to limit non-residents more. Something to consider is that there are more hunters and fishers who go from Washington to hunt and fish in other states than come to Washington to hunt and fish from other states. I suspect the same may be true for shed hunting. If all states stopped non-residents from hunting and fishing it would be a loss of opportunity for millions of hunters and fishers not to mention the lost tourism dollars for local businesses in all the states.
If one state requires a license for hunting sheds then all states may end up requiring a license to hunt sheds. In a few years everyone everywhere will have to buy a license to shed hunt. Is that what we really want to happen? Maybe buying a license is the destiny for shed hunting and every other type of activity that we might casually want to do?
Perhaps the answer is to require a license for anyone selling sheds. If you are selling sheds from federally owned ground that is already a gray area. You are supposed to have a "special use" license for any commercial activity on federally owned lands.
Post by: motg9_6 on December 10, 2014, 06:09:50 AM
Post by: boneaddict on December 10, 2014, 06:31:04 AM
Post by: boneaddict on December 10, 2014, 06:33:54 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on December 10, 2014, 06:37:54 AM
Why limit the permit to sheds? We should require a permit just to access state lands. Maybe one to take photographs of public landscapes as well...
Done.
Post by: bhawley76 on December 10, 2014, 06:40:46 AM
Post by: boneaddict on December 10, 2014, 06:41:50 AM
(I finally find a use for the pissing monkey, that's how much I hate permits)
Post by: pianoman9701 on December 10, 2014, 06:47:41 AM
Post by: Bob33 on December 10, 2014, 06:47:48 AM
Post by: jackmaster on December 10, 2014, 06:55:49 AM
Post by: bhawley76 on December 10, 2014, 07:01:12 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on December 10, 2014, 07:03:42 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on December 10, 2014, 07:06:49 AM
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on December 10, 2014, 07:09:19 AM
Post by: boneaddict on December 10, 2014, 07:19:24 AM
They really need to go to a permit system for sheds. Quality Shed, Bull Shed, Antlerless Shed, Disabled Shed, Youth Shed. Hunters have said they want it to increase opportunity.
DARN it I paid good money for that coffee....... I didn't need it sprayed out my nose all over my computer
Post by: boneaddict on December 10, 2014, 07:20:04 AM
Put Tabs on bicycles and I might think about paying for a shed permit?
NOW WE ARE TALKING!!!! Do they pay road taxes at ALL
Post by: boneaddict on December 10, 2014, 07:21:31 AM
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on December 10, 2014, 07:26:19 AM
Put Tabs on bicycles and I might think about paying for a shed permit?
Nope.
NOW WE ARE TALKING!!!! Do they pay road taxes at ALL
Nope.....
Post by: danderson on December 10, 2014, 07:26:34 AM
As far as I'm concerned when we purchase a hunting licence that should include hunting for sheds, I all ready have a Discover pass/ Northwest Forest Pass and Snow park Permit, we pay our fair share and I don't have any problem with that, what bothers me is that our state has 3 county's that influence the outcome of the state wide voting outcome, don't give them any more ideas,
The best way to generate income for any resource is a user fee, put a toll on the mountain passes 5 dollars a car, semi trucks get a free pass, Subaru's 10 bucks, we cant out vote them but we can make um pay to play.
Post by: westsidehntr on December 10, 2014, 07:55:51 AM
Post by: fly4fish on December 10, 2014, 10:07:38 AM
Post by: westsidehntr on December 10, 2014, 10:11:35 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on December 10, 2014, 10:14:28 AM
I see most of you may not have fully understood my thoughts or failed to read what I wrote. I said nothing about a special permit. All I am suggesting is that people have a WA hunting license. I don't think that is a ton of new regulation or a whole new permit scheme. Just thought I would throw it out there. I see now that it is a horrible idea. That's why we come here right; to get the brutal truth?
Do you think that people swimming should have fishing licenses?
Post by: Gobble on December 10, 2014, 10:16:16 AM
Put Tabs on bicycles and I might think about paying for a shed permit?
Ding, Ding, Ding, we have a winner!!!!!!
Post by: fly4fish on December 10, 2014, 10:26:05 AM
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Good point, but swimming and collecting sheds are on two different levels as there is something valuable gained in shedding. And no, no hunting license required to hike through public lands.
As some have said, there may be a permit already required by the state if doing something commercially on federal lands, but I think this is not very enforceable.
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on December 10, 2014, 10:26:40 AM
Post by: wafisherman on December 10, 2014, 10:28:15 AM
No problem though, i'd just have my 6yr old take hunters ed, get her license, and next year, if we happen upon one, we'll be ready. Hmmm. Not liking this....
Stick to commercial regulations. Gov't should be involved there anyway. Taking something from any public land, with the purpose of selling it, should have some sort or regulation. Public land does not mean it's a free for fall to gather, hunt, and then sell our collective resources.
Post by: ipkus on December 10, 2014, 10:33:01 AM
Hunters against hunters...yet another envirowacko wet dream.
Post by: pianoman9701 on December 10, 2014, 10:36:34 AM
[quote Do you think that people swimming should have fishing licenses?
Good point, but swimming and collecting sheds are on two different levels as there is something valuable gained in shedding. And no, no hunting license required to hike through public lands.
As some have said, there may be a permit already required by the state if doing something commercially on federal lands, but I think this is not very enforceable.
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It's just a bad idea. But, come up with some more ideas. You're bound to hit something good sooner or later. Suggested topics: non-fee or tax related issues. More hunter opportunity issues. Ideas for legal wolf killing issues. Discount licenses for hot blondes in bikini issues. :tup:
Post by: jackmaster on December 10, 2014, 12:14:25 PM
Post by: pianoman9701 on December 10, 2014, 12:16:04 PM
Post by: Bean Counter on December 10, 2014, 12:21:56 PM
Please delete this horrible idea of a thread before WDFW hears about it!
Too late! I already emailed it to the Director and have received 10 snitch points. I have applied them towards the quality shed tag.
Talk about point creep! :kneel:
Post by: Tbob on December 10, 2014, 12:23:37 PM
Post by: buckfvr on December 10, 2014, 12:24:49 PM
Post by: skeeter 20i on December 10, 2014, 12:43:30 PM
I see most of you may not have fully understood my thoughts or failed to read what I wrote. I said nothing about a special permit. All I am suggesting is that people have a WA hunting license. I don't think that is a ton of new regulation or a whole new permit scheme. Just thought I would throw it out there. I see now that it is a horrible idea. That's why we come here right; to get the brutal truth?
So the average person who enjoys a walk in the woods and happens to find a shed should have to have a hunting license to be able to keep the shed? You say you don't think it's a ton of new regulations but what about the guy who didn't have to buy a license to take a walk in the woods you would be imposing regulation upon him/her wouldn't you?
Post by: Old Man Yager on December 10, 2014, 12:49:06 PM
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on December 10, 2014, 01:11:51 PM
Everyone is already paying to access state lands! Discover Pass....
What do the shed hunters think of requiring a hunting license?
I didn't know there were many non-residents shed hunting in Washington, isn't it mostly residents?
If you shed in another state do you need any license?
Would you buy a license to shed hunt in another state or would you just quit going?
I saw this thread topic and thought of going straight to the keyboard at once! Then I decided to read a few comments. Crimony! You want to introduce another fee for ANYTHING? You'd just be opening the door to the state to 'modify' that to be 'an amount for non-residents' and 'an amount for residents'. Just because your thoughts are to keep it open to residents that have a hunting license, doesn't mean they wouldn't split the two and charge for both. We're getting lucky to hunt Coyotes and Grouse under the general hunting license. Don't give the state any ideas that would charge ANYONE more! Because they will! They'll run straight to the bank with it.
-Steve
Post by: irishevox on December 10, 2014, 01:14:16 PM
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on December 10, 2014, 01:16:32 PM
I hate the idea. So if I go on a walk with my kids, and my 6yr old daughter finds a shed and wants to bring it home... "sorry, but you don't have a license"
No problem though, i'd just have my 6yr old take hunters ed, get her license, and next year, if we happen upon one, we'll be ready. Hmmm. Not liking this....
Stick to commercial regulations. Gov't should be involved there anyway. Taking something from any public land, with the purpose of selling it, should have some sort or regulation. Public land does not mean it's a free for fall to gather, hunt, and then sell our collective resources.
Tell that to the Salal and Mushroom pickers!
-Steve
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on December 10, 2014, 01:18:25 PM
-Steve
Post by: wapiti hunter2 on December 10, 2014, 01:25:54 PM
Why limit the permit to sheds? We should require a permit just to access state lands. Maybe one to take photographs of public landscapes as well...
Or pick mushrooms, or pick up rocks or walk on public land. Oh wait, those have been proposed as well.
Can you say government control?
Post by: buckfvr on December 10, 2014, 01:34:40 PM
People need to be reminded that removing sheds from the forest is illegal in many states. We're getting lucky that someone at our WDFW has overlooked this for quite some time.
-Steve
Funny I dont feel lucky.................they will get it sooner than later...
Post by: Tom Tamer on December 10, 2014, 05:03:55 PM
Post by: mtman on December 10, 2014, 05:21:06 PM
Post by: idahohuntr on December 10, 2014, 05:22:59 PM
While a hunting license may not be the best answer I think fly4fish was starting a thread about a potential need for the future of protecting valuable resources. Some states have shed hunting training requirements or even shed hunting seasons which limit when folks can collect sheds...most of this is geared at not adding additional pressure to already vulnerable animals coming off winter. Thank You, fly4fish, for highlighting an issue that at least one other person thinks might warrant consideration. Don't let these "dumbest idea ever" posts get you down...critics are dime a dozen. Guys who get things done to conserve resources we all care about...far and few between.
Post by: time2hunt on December 10, 2014, 05:25:49 PM
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Post by: raydog on December 10, 2014, 05:59:20 PM
Here's my question what about the animals?? There needs to be a set open date for shed hunting there are way to many people chasing animal for there shed early in the season. Between late hunting season, winter, predators these animal need a little break.Im not gonna pay anymore/extra fees or taxes to this state until they can figure out how to use all of the money they have recieved correctly. Not knocking on your idea, just extra taxes :twocents:
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Post by: elkfins on December 10, 2014, 06:20:47 PM
They really need to go to a permit system for sheds. Quality Shed, Bull Shed, Antlerless Shed, Disabled Shed, Youth Shed. Hunters have said they want it to increase opportunity.
You forgot the background check... there needs to be a background check before the permit is issued.
Post by: Lnk on December 10, 2014, 06:30:28 PM
Post by: steeleywhopper on December 10, 2014, 06:43:44 PM
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on December 10, 2014, 06:44:04 PM
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on December 10, 2014, 06:48:05 PM
damn pianno, i need to go target shooting with you, if thats the kind of company you keep, i am your new bestest friend.. :chuckle::drool: OMG ! :chuckle:
Post by: fly4fish on December 10, 2014, 07:04:01 PM
I get what your saying fly4fish. Most of these guys doing the bashing have never been to the east to see all the out of state guys
I think you are right that most of the bashers haven't spent much time in the Blues during March and April. At the same time, maybe I generalized the rest of the state to have the same issues, which apparently it does not. Also, no matter how often I say, it seems people are thinking I am proposing an extra permit for everyone, which I think I have made clear that I am not. I do understand the stance against more regulations and the potential of more regulations following the last. I guess I thought it to be a bigger issue than it is.
Thanks for understanding where I am coming from, whether you agree or not.
Post by: Cap.Silver on December 10, 2014, 07:25:58 PM
and require by law to wear High visibility /w reflective stripes not less than 30sq.in on each side of the body (front and back) along with running red and white daylight strobes . :tup:Put Tabs on bicycles and I might think about paying for a shed permit?
NOW WE ARE TALKING!!!! Do they pay road taxes at ALL
Post by: Landowner on December 10, 2014, 07:48:09 PM
But I would go for GPS chipping the obsessive compulsive shed hunters.
Post by: Sitka_Blacktail on December 10, 2014, 08:11:48 PM
But seriously, from what I saw from the OP's posts, part of this idea is all about money. In fact probably most of it. He states that the serious collectors do it for money and that he has done it himself and he seems not to like the competition. Then he paints the competition as "Mostly out of state shed hunters" to drum up support for his idea. Out of staters = bad and good old local boy = good, apparently.
Post by: fly4fish on December 10, 2014, 08:34:38 PM
Now be careful, before you know it there will be a charge for each post you leave on Hunting-Washington. :chuckle:
But seriously, from what I saw from the OP's posts, part of this idea is all about money. In fact probably most of it. He states that the serious collectors do it for money and that he has done it himself and he seems not to like the competition. Then he paints the competition as "Mostly out of state shed hunters" to drum up support for his idea. Out of staters = bad and good old local boy = good, apparently.
I do not think out of towners bad, locals good; I welcome the $ of both. I hunt out of state on occasion, paying out of state prices, and I do get this feeling from the locals, understandably. I have not shed hunted in several years, and I don't miss it. I was just thinking about ways the F&G could raise more funds and thought this to be a way without affecting the masses. Obviously, from the responses I got from the masses, this is the most horrible idea that has ever been brought up on this forum. Sorry for making everyone angry. I assure you I am not a lawmaker and this idea has not been submitted to anybody other than this forum. I was just wondering it anybody else thought this might be a good idea; apparently not.
Post by: Knocker of rocks on December 10, 2014, 08:40:43 PM
Post by: Hawgdawg on December 10, 2014, 08:46:48 PM
They really need to go to a permit system for sheds. Quality Shed, Bull Shed, Antlerless Shed, Disabled Shed, Youth Shed. Hunters have said they want it to increase opportunity.
:bash:Bob,
I usually agree with about 23.8 % of your comments. But leaving out Master Hunters on porcupine and mouse food is uncalled for! We should have first water on that bone. MODS!
Post by: Bean Counter on December 10, 2014, 08:51:03 PM
Post by: bone head on December 10, 2014, 09:13:43 PM
Post by: Old Man Yager on December 10, 2014, 09:24:14 PM
Post by: Bango skank on December 10, 2014, 09:32:14 PM
Don't forget to register your sheds with the Feds!
That's taking it a little too far, don't be unreasonable. There is no reason for that, all we have to do it call the WDFW to schedule a shed sealing appointment within 72 hours of finding a shed. And be sure to call in and check the hotline after March 31st to make sure the shed quota hasn't been reached in the unit you're hunting.
Post by: Sitka_Blacktail on December 10, 2014, 11:37:40 PM
Post by: raydog on December 11, 2014, 07:05:25 AM
Post by: Knocker of rocks on December 11, 2014, 07:08:47 AM
Just charge all the west siders that sounds fair enough, sounds like your wanting to bark up a tree with nothing up there or just jealous of others actually putting in the time in finding em. Next theyll be want us to pay a fee in crossing the state line
Some people want everything to be like surfing
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Post by: skeeter 20i on December 11, 2014, 08:26:43 AM
Post by: irishevox on December 11, 2014, 08:30:25 AM
Post by: bone head on December 11, 2014, 09:47:44 AM
Why is this thread still going... it is apparent no one wants it to happen. :beatdeadhorse: :DOH:
Post by: Old Man Yager on December 11, 2014, 10:24:36 AM
Hey, when they decide the sheds are to dangerous for us to have, they got to know what you've got, so they can be prepared, SWAT team and all that good stuff. You can have my sheds when you pry them from my cold dead hands!!Don't forget to register your sheds with the Feds!
That's taking it a little too far, don't be unreasonable. There is no reason for that, all we have to do it call the WDFW to schedule a shed sealing appointment within 72 hours of finding a shed. And be sure to call in and check the hotline after March 31st to make sure the shed quota hasn't been reached in the unit you're hunting.
Post by: JimmyHoffa on December 11, 2014, 10:43:25 AM
I kind of snicker at the dangerous comments. As kids we used to take skulls with antlers off the fence and charge either with them. Got a lot of busted up fingers, but nothing compared to what happened when parents got home.
Post by: 10heiau on December 11, 2014, 11:16:14 AM
I guess I am not shocked that a region of the state famous for producing huge bull elk; that commands $40-60k in an auction tag, is generating increasing regional/national interest from shed hunters to the point that some concern is/may be warranted now or in the near future.
While a hunting license may not be the best answer I think fly4fish was starting a thread about a potential need for the future of protecting valuable resources. Some states have shed hunting training requirements or even shed hunting seasons which limit when folks can collect sheds...most of this is geared at not adding additional pressure to already vulnerable animals coming off winter. Thank You, fly4fish, for highlighting an issue that at least one other person thinks might warrant consideration. Don't let these "dumbest idea ever" posts get you down...critics are dime a dozen. Guys who get things done to conserve resources we all care about...far and few between.
Thank you for putting it so eloquently, idahohuntr. I enjoy following fly4fish's posts. I have a lot of respect for him not only for his displayed hunting ability but also for sharing many of his successes with the members of this site.
As a witness to some of fly4fish's underlying concerns, I agree that this is a topic that needs discussion. There will never be a solution that everyone agrees with. It's likely that no action will ever be taken towards this issue. Fly4fish stated a proposal; the disagreement from many of the members is understandable but the backlash is unwarranted. Why can't we discuss the underlying issue without the "dumbest idea ever comments"? I commend fly4fish for starting the discussion.
Post by: time2hunt on December 11, 2014, 12:48:47 PM
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Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on December 11, 2014, 01:03:03 PM
Post by: bigbeamhunter on December 11, 2014, 02:15:06 PM
Post by: fair-chase on December 11, 2014, 02:33:41 PM
Harassment in some areas is an understatement. Using Snow machines running elk down to make there antlers fall off...... :bash: :yike:
:yeah:
Harrasment is an issue that needs to be delt with. Personally, I would prefer increased enforcement over a license/pass/fee. But that's just me. In my areas snow machines aren't nearly the scourge that the so called "shed dogs" are. I have lost all patience for "shed dogs" as the majority of the ones I encounter cannot seem to differentiate between an antler on the ground and one on a live animal; and they end up running the herds into the ground. :dunno: Maybe that's their plan all along, to run them 'till the horns fall off. :dunno: Pretty sickening to see wintering elk exhausted, sweating, toungs hanging out, and panting from being chased by dogs all day. :bash:
Post by: ing on December 11, 2014, 07:18:53 PM
Absolutely against this. I truly do not think this state needs any more fees or licence requirements.Agreed!!
Post by: Harbor_hunter on December 11, 2014, 07:44:41 PM
Post by: Tom Tamer on December 14, 2014, 09:24:12 AM
I am at the point where I can not read anything about them wanting more ..I am about to forget about all laws unless it has something to do with killing a humane .. I just seen where they want to tax how many miles you put on your rig :dunno: :stup: :pee: I swear this state is beyond fixable ! I need to kiss all my friends good bye and head back to my roots ...just watched a good show today on Pennsylvania and how hunting is deeply rooted into family life ... had tears in my eyes just thinking of all the good times I had back there ..I have had a lot of good times here too but I have seen way to much change in 26 yrs to love this state anymore ... I am sure you life longers feel it more than me :dunno: :'(
AMEN Brother!
Post by: pianoman9701 on December 14, 2014, 10:11:04 AM
People need to be reminded that removing sheds from the forest is illegal in many states. We're getting lucky that someone at our WDFW has overlooked this for quite some time.
-Steve
No, the people in those states should be ticked off that their state restricts them in collecting something that nature provides free and can be collected without harm to animals or habitat. It's one thing to levy restrictions which protect at-risk animals in their wintering grounds or the environment from damage. It's another altogether to charge us for a renewable resource on OUR land which costs nothing for the state or federal government to maintain.
Post by: Landowner on December 14, 2014, 01:57:12 PM
Post by: bigtex on December 15, 2014, 08:21:20 AM
Alright, I looked it up. To hunt sheds between Feb 1 and April 15th you have to take a FREE online course.:yeah:
Basically it's a free permit. You have to show you completed the course in Utah.
Post by: bigtex on December 15, 2014, 08:22:02 AM
I use to enjoy a few outings a year, but the competition is too much for me now. I would like to see the F&G make a little money off sheds like the state does everything else from Christmas trees to mushrooms. Seems like a no brainer, but I;ve never heard it mentioned before. What do you think?It's illegal to cut christmas trees on state land in WA....
Post by: Chad E. on December 15, 2014, 06:09:19 PM
Here's my question what about the animals?? There needs to be a set open date for shed hunting there are way to many people chasing animal for there shed early in the season. Between late hunting season, winter, predators these animal need a little break.
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I couldn't agree more. Our herds are getting chased and run around hard in the late winter in the name of shed hunting. Everyone on this website talks about wanting to help the herds and on and on but a topic like this steers towards how terrible any sort of regulation is. How can we have it both ways? Wyoming has a winter range closure that prohibits picking up sheds until a certain date. I think something like that would be the best scenario as it eliminates several of the concerns raised.
Post by: JimmyHoffa on December 15, 2014, 06:21:17 PM
Post by: elkfins on December 16, 2014, 03:24:01 PM
One problem with creating a winter range closure area or a shed hunting "season" is the segment of population that is exempt from state laws... The only way this would work is if the whole population is required to respect the winter range closure / seasons.Here's my question what about the animals?? There needs to be a set open date for shed hunting there are way to many people chasing animal for there shed early in the season. Between late hunting season, winter, predators these animal need a little break.
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I couldn't agree more. Our herds are getting chased and run around hard in the late winter in the name of shed hunting. Everyone on this website talks about wanting to help the herds and on and on but a topic like this steers towards how terrible any sort of regulation is. How can we have it both ways? Wyoming has a winter range closure that prohibits picking up sheds until a certain date. I think something like that would be the best scenario as it eliminates several of the concerns raised.
Post by: pianoman9701 on December 16, 2014, 03:38:22 PM
One problem with creating a winter range closure area or a shed hunting "season" is the segment of population that is exempt from state laws... The only way this would work is if the whole population is required to respect the winter range closure / seasons.Here's my question what about the animals?? There needs to be a set open date for shed hunting there are way to many people chasing animal for there shed early in the season. Between late hunting season, winter, predators these animal need a little break.
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I couldn't agree more. Our herds are getting chased and run around hard in the late winter in the name of shed hunting. Everyone on this website talks about wanting to help the herds and on and on but a topic like this steers towards how terrible any sort of regulation is. How can we have it both ways? Wyoming has a winter range closure that prohibits picking up sheds until a certain date. I think something like that would be the best scenario as it eliminates several of the concerns raised.
Not true. Although total compliance would be the best possible scenario for the ungulates, any relief is a good thing. It would be up to the biologists, however, to determine whether an area is a wintering area and should be restricted.
In your comment about the "whole population", I assume you're referring to Native Americans, right? And just because they're not bound by state laws doesn't mean appeals can't be made to tribal councils or that they don't already have cooperative agreements in place to protect ungulates at risk in their wintering habitat. Contrary to some popular HuntWA beliefs, many Native Americans are concerned for the welfare of our wildlife resources.