Hunting Washington Forum
Big Game Hunting => Bow Hunting => Topic started by: Hoytstaffshooter83 on December 22, 2008, 12:49:07 AM
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Over aiming is one of the biggest problems most archers have and it can lead to a miriad of problems... the main one being target panic and punching of the trigger release.. NOT GOOD!! id say in all reality that 90%+ of the bowhunters out there punch or manipulate the release to go off.. also NOT GOOD.. if your finger moves whatsoever on the trigger you are punching!! but back to over aiming first..... most people put way to much empahsis into "aiming" at the bullseye.... in your mind you are so focused on having the pin in the center that you can not relax and focus so much on that your body subconsiously makes the release go off when its in the center... NOt good, also because of over aiming you can not relax enough to really hold steady.... the key to shooting well is not in aiming so to speak.. if you can look past the pin and just concentrate on the spot you want to hit, your subconsious will bring the pin where it needs to be to make that shot happen, by doing so it also allows you to relax and execute a proper shot... what is a proper shot? thats very simple... a proper shot is shot with back tension.. this is a technigue used by target archers and any serious shooter.. this technigue allows you a sub consious release and a much steadfast hold on the target by creating pressure from both ends( bow arm and relase arm) the importance of a sub consious release is huge!! when your consious mind knows the instant of the release from feedback in your body, your body reacts in anticipation of said shot. along with your mind and that causes you to stop aiming which is what keeps the sight in the middle while "let go" should happen automatically. This is very tough to learn on a target, almost impossible... if you have a target, you are looking at that target, then thinking about that target you can not learn a sub consious release. remove any targets and shoot at a empty bale. the easiest way to describe a subconsious release is like having 2 people shoot the bow.... one guy (consious) aims the other (sub) releases... the con mind directs the muscles used in back tension to contract and then starts to aim.. as the contraction increases it slowly pulls the elbow back forcing more pressure on the trigger until the shot goes off! meanwhile all you are doing is relaxing and aiming at the target... the best way to learn this is with your eyes closed ona bale a few feet away. draw your bow, anchor and close your eyes so you can "feel" what a release should feel like.. then wrap your finger around the trigger... start to contract your back muscles and continue doing so until the shot goes off....!! without your con mind making it! shooting properly will make your group better, shoot better and cure overaiming and target panic.... the only way to reach your full potential as a archer/bowhunter is to have a subconsious release....
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I have never really looked at it like that. I shoot alot, well what i think is alot, handguns and rifles. Most of what i have learned is front sight (sight picture) and trigger control. I guess that is what i take over to shooting my bow, and try to use these same fundementals. When the weather clears up I plan on shooting the bow a little. I will give ur thoughts a try.
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Back tension release is talked about a bunch. I've thougth a lot about it. The one thing that don't make sense to me and maybe you will be able to better explain is. My release is strapped solid to my wrist. I'm not pulling my hand through it. So I have to move my finger to engage the release. How does the back muscles come into play with moving my finger? I fully admit that I have a tendancy to be tunnel visioned at times so I'm missing something. I know that I'm a good shot. I'm not happy unless I can put all my arrows in a chew can at 60yds. So maybe I'm already doing what you're saying, but for some reason I don't think I am.
Kris
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I relax draw my bow and release where I want to hit the target. Seems to work fine for me. I think over analyzing could also hurt a guy when shooting. I dont shoot for a living or anything but I practice alot and seem to shoot well or atleast good enough for my liking. JUst my two cents I try not to think about thinks just do whats natural to me and release and I seem to shoot well but I do practice daily.
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exactly what hoyt sid... proper release is crucial. also proper bow set up and form makes a world of difference. :hello:
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Back tension release is talked about a bunch. I've thougth a lot about it. The one thing that don't make sense to me and maybe you will be able to better explain is. My release is strapped solid to my wrist. I'm not pulling my hand through it. So I have to move my finger to engage the release. How does the back muscles come into play with moving my finger? I fully admit that I have a tendancy to be tunnel visioned at times so I'm missing something. I know that I'm a good shot. I'm not happy unless I can put all my arrows in a chew can at 60yds. So maybe I'm already doing what you're saying, but for some reason I don't think I am.
Kris
Thats the thing, with back tension you dont have to move your finger on a caliper release to make it go off... first just touch your trigger to really see how light it is.. doesnt take any pressure to make the jaws open right? so when draw back, come to anchor, settle in on the target.. RELAX.. then wrap your finger around the trigger, gettin the 2nd knuckle on the trigger is best.. keep it there! then start to squeeze your shoulder blades together ( pull you release elbow back towards a imaginary wall) this will force your trigger finger to put pressure on the release and it will go off! I will take a video today and some pics of my wife doing it, she does it perfectly and hopefully I can post them and it might help you visually to see exactly what im talking about.