Hunting Washington Forum
Big Game Hunting => Elk Hunting => Topic started by: WapitiTalk1 on December 16, 2014, 10:29:40 PM
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Geez Louise, it's only a bit more than 9 months away till the next wapiti season! What are your early plans for the 2015 season (state, bow/rifle/smokepole, hoping for a permit draw, OTC, partner(s), packing in, base camping, Riverside Motel in Long Snout, Washington, solo, dropped, guided, Headin West Hunt Consulting assisted, etc.)? I start planning my next year's adventure during the curent season ;) Whaddya you cats plan on doing (well, besides on knocking down a big old stinky elk) for the 2015 season? RJ
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I started planning in Oct for 2015..scouted a area in MT in october to see if I wanna hunt their this fall. I will hunt ID panhandle and possibly another area down south. Ill apply in WA muzzy blues tag and hunt the OTC muzzy unit here if not drawn.
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I can't even really begin to come up with a plan yet, not knowing what the seasons are going to be, or the GMU's that will be open. Supposedly there will be 24 new GMU's open for early muzzleloader. That has my interest piqued. But then again, so does the rumor of the September 12-23 early archery elk season. I'm interested in that as well. Hmm... maybe I need to draw the multi-season elk tag, then I could take advantage of all the seasons, and I have decent odds of drawing with my 4 points. However, with a Wyoming trip in the works again, not sure I want to spend the extra $180 on the MS tag.
I actually have even considered NOT buying an elk tag this year at all! :yike: Maybe not a bear or cougar tag! :yike: I'm beginning to think the way some others on here have been thinking for some time now: would it be better to spend my time and money in other states? With hoof rot, access passes needed now for most timber land, and spike only elk seasons in eastern Washington, it's hard to stay excited about elk hunting in Washington.
It's gonna be a real tough decision in 2015, there's no doubt about it.
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Out of state back country for early archery elk....
With timber lands going to pay and play and the rest being condensed on to public land, I'm spending my money out of state.
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Archery for me. Same basic area where I tagged a 4x4 on opening day this year. I want to expand and scout out some more areas I ran across last year too; that were looking really nice. Scouting really kicked my butt this past season, so expanding my area has led me to start getting in shape now. I should have another friend from PA coming out again this year, so in a way it's more important to me for them to get and elk than it is for me; besides, I get the meat if they get one. I plan on making a video of my training and scouting trips this year too.
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Trying to line up a back country Oregon archery hunt. Did it two years ago and it was awesome. Now that we know the area better, pretty sure that between my old man and I, we could connect on at least one bull.
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I need the new regs for 2015 to make an answer to this one. It should offer more opportunity than previous years. when will they post the new seasons or changes to the regs? did they make expendables legal or have they even mentioned it any further?
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2 weeks in September elk WA
2 weeks October rifle elk ID
3-7 days for rifle elk WA pending on how many new people I can get out
One week for idaho whitetails
Washington deer depends on elk dates
These never change it's just a part of life
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same plan as other years in state... apply for all seson, don't get drawn, go rifle western as normal....
IF ever drawn, then I would love to rut call in a bull...
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Switching to archery :tup:
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drawing 1 of the 3 Quality Bull tags for my area. I have 9 Quality elk and 9 Quality deer points. If i dont draw Maybe Idaho or Montana
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Not sure what ill do in wa, muzzle loader most likely unless i pull multiseason. But will hunt elk in idaho panhandle.
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Switching to archery :tup:
Me too and i cant wait
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Permits here and OR. Idaho backcountry for sure.
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We may give up on WA elk. Has anyone rifle hunted the Sand Point , ID area out-of-state? Is it fairly easy to get tags and are there good elk there?
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We may give up on WA elk. Has anyone rifle hunted the Sand Point , ID area out-of-state? Is it fairly easy to get tags and are there good elk there?
tags for that area are otc. Panhandle tag. I have seen pics of some big ones from up there. Havent hunted it myself tho. I havefound that most of the panhandle holds elk... just have to figure out spots they like.
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Trying to line up a back country Oregon archery hunt. Did it two years ago and it was awesome. Now that we know the area better, pretty sure that between my old man and I, we could connect on at least one bull.
Wish I could afford to go with you guys!
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We may give up on WA elk. Has anyone rifle hunted the Sand Point , ID area out-of-state? Is it fairly easy to get tags and are there good elk there?
Yes and yes (grin). I grew up just across the state line, a bit to the NE, in MT from the area you're talking about. The Panhandle Zone (Units 1,2,3,4,4A,5,6,7,9) has decent elk pops but vary by unit as far as state pop objectives go. Palouse Zone (Units 8,8A,11A) are sprinkled up in the handle also. Yes, tags are plentifull and seldom sell completely out from my experience over the past few years. The beauty of ID is that you can multiple seasons with multiple weapons, and, you get a significant portion if not all of the rut, depending on the tag you choose. Many (if not most) of the units I mentioned are antlered only which may or may not be a deal breaker for you. Downside to the area is you're close to "ground zero" for wolves and they are all around. I hunt a long weekend in the WA early season but refuse to give up the elk rut so it's off to ID or MT for me each fall for the bulk of my elk hunting vacation. WA needs to get wise to the fact they are losing thousands and thousands of dollars with their crappy elk seasons, particularly archery.
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We may give up on WA elk. Has anyone rifle hunted the Sand Point , ID area out-of-state? Is it fairly easy to get tags and are there good elk there?
Yes and yes (grin). I grew up just across the state line, a bit to the NE, in MT from the area you're talking about. The Panhandle Zone (Units 1,2,3,4,4A,5,6,7,9) has decent elk pops but vary by unit as far as state pop objectives go. Palouse Zone (Units 8,8A,11A) are sprinkled up in the handle also. Yes, tags are plentifull and seldom sell completely out from my experience over the past few years. The beauty of ID is that you can multiple seasons with multiple weapons, and, you get a significant portion if not all of the rut, depending on the tag you choose. Many (if not most) of the units I mentioned are antlered only which may or may not be a deal breaker for you. Downside to the area is you're close to "ground zero" for wolves and they are all around. I hunt a long weekend in the WA early season but refuse to give up the elk rut so it's off to ID or MT for me each fall for the bulk of my elk hunting vacation. WA needs to get wise to the fact they are losing thousands and thousands of dollars with their crappy elk seasons, particularly archery.
A wolf pelt on the wall would be worth an out-of-state elk tag. :tup:
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Still not sure, depends on what they do with the early archery season this year.I hunted Idaho last year because of the poor season hear in WA. I enjoyed it enough that I might hunt there anyway.I loved hunting during the rut and having bulls talk back even in pressured areas. It's going to be a tough decision.
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dunno yet thinking like pioano and say addios to WA :'(
Sucks with I 594 is why
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If they change the season ill stick with archery. If they dont ill be going rifle for the first time since I picked up a bow.
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Idaho archery again unless i draw quality tag here in wa. Probably just buy a point for wyoming again but may put in for tag i have slim chance of drawing.
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Making a big change next year. Gonna go east side for elk for the first time. It's more the type of terrain I enjoy being in. Sick of having all the land locked up on the west side.
Going to go high and deep and go with more of a backpacking style hunt. I'd love to pick the brains of anyone who does these style hunts!
Already changing my workout routine to get prepared.
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I think about it every single day...
This year was amazing, getting my first archery elk... and with my girlfriend standing right beside me when I squeezed the trigger...
September of 2015 will find her and I in either that same spot... camped for a full week this time, about 4 miles in from the truck....
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In a better spot if I draw my LE tag... which is the unit that MT thread of recent had the "444 New MT state record Non-typ" bull. Which turned out to be a 421 bull... Id still shoot him... :tup:
My dream tag... damn. I have 12 points.... please elk gods, please give me that tag next year!!!
Heres the question though... I've got a 383 bull... Do I actually go big or go home with that tag, thinking I may find one bigger than 383? Or do I just say, "Im gonna go have a stellar hunt and take a nice bull home"....
IM already stressed about it... now that is F'd up.... :chuckle:
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If you plan for it now you won't draw. Expect the worst and hope for the best.
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I will be Archery elk hunting NE Iregon again hoping to make it 3 bulls in a row. Thenmight hunt WA not sure if I will rifle or archery hunt WA
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Goin eastside for elk,dreamin of a big bull permit for the Blues or Chinook Pass area.probably wont get one even with 15 points but....actually pretty excited just try out somethin new,spikes are really tender anyway!
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April 15- June 15 spring bear. hoping to do it with a bow
August 15th - sept 5 archery antelope
Sept 5th- 14th back country deer/elk (scouting for ram)
Sept 15th till quota is met - ram hunt
Oct 1st- 10th wa muzzle elk (hoping I draw, prolly the only nr dumb enough to apply for WA haha)
Guide the general season in montana.
Dam I have a busy year ahead of me.
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I actually have a 10 year plan. This is for my family not just me. And I do have a lot of nephews.
But 2015 goes like this.
Make sure I get my nephews some of the best tags in the west. I really like helping the kids get great tags and getting them hooked on hunting.
Apply in many states in the best area's.
Do not miss any draws because then you are not in a higher point pools.
We will have at least 5 fantastic tags. This year. Last year we had so many good tags we had to turn some back in because you can only be in one place at a time.
We will get 3 fantastic deer tags in Utah.
We should get 2 of the best elk tags in Colorado.
We should get 2 of top 10 area elk tags in Utah.
So I think should will get 5 of these 7 this year.
If we do not draw what we think then we will get one of the best area deer tags in wyoming. But if we do then we will just do points in wyoming.
Then we are in the running for a top 10 area antelope tag in wyoming.
We are in for pretty good odds at what I think is the best deer rut hunt in Nevada.
Then of course we are in the pray for tags in Idaho and Montana and AZ.
The kids are applying in Washington. But these are horrible odds.
New Mexico we also apply for the best tags.
I could go on but you get the picture.
If we draw any of the horrible odds hunts then we turn back in some of the other tags.
2 years ago we did fantastic and this year we did fantastic. 2015 should probably be the best year yet.
I am not against going guided. But currently there is no reason.
All these hunts will be DIY -- public land.
Oh yeah -- the odds are OK for some bear tags as well. We would be getting some of the best ones here but my boy is having to work in Australia for 6 months and work is effecting some of the other nephews time frames.
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I'm going to mix up the terrain a bit and move archery areas
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I'm going to mix up the terrain a bit and move archery areas
wow wow wow. one does not simply move elk areas.
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I'm still hoping that someone in my family will draw one of the various OIL tags. I don't really care who or what. Beyond that, probably the same as every other year.
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We may give up on WA elk. Has anyone rifle hunted the Sand Point , ID area out-of-state? Is it fairly easy to get tags and are there good elk there?
tags for that area are otc. Panhandle tag. I have seen pics of some big ones from up there. Havent hunted it myself tho. I havefound that most of the panhandle holds elk... just have to figure out spots they like.
Prior to all of the issues with wolves and such, I've ran into a few elk up there. Some areas have tons of elk and others...none. It's a good hunt and only 6 hours away, so scouting isn't too hard.
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Put in for Colorado and Wyoming again but about 95% sure I won't draw. I complain about WA management and haven't been hunting elk here but have been debating doing the multiseason thing.
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Archery elk for me, need to find some new areas tho, tag soup is no good! Last year archery in the NE was tuff, we hunted a lot of area and only had one bull respond. Seemed like they just would not talk to us at all....
-Scout new areas.
-cams out earlier.
-be in better shape.
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Does anyone have info that the Elk Modern season will be pushed to the right a week?
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Well, my job is transferring me to San Diego the end of March. No elk for me this next season. Looks like I best figure out how to hunt desert mulies! Yikes!!!
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Does anyone have info that the Elk Modern season will be pushed to the right a week?
Are you talking east or west? I could see it maybe being moved back a week on the east side. But if they did that on the west side it would overlap with the late blacktail season, and they normally do not overlap modern firearm deer and elk seasons.
West side should be November 7-17 and east side should be October 31 - November 8.
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I'm going to go archery elk in WA. I have never hunted elk with a bow before so I do not have high expectations. I plan on hunting in Rimrock, but if I draw the big bull tag for the blues, that will be where I end up. I will more than likely be in Rimrock camping to at least a week during season so if anyone wants to meet up, send me a message (I know it's too early for most to know their plan). As it sits right now I will be at camp alone simply because most of my friends are non-hunters but I am always welcome to the idea of meeting new people, exchanging stories, and learning from people with more experience. if anyone is planning to hunt that area and needs someone to camp with, hit me up. It's kind of nice going into the woods knowing that if you don't come out someone will be looking for you!
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I will start my season here in Washington with Archery deer. Then its off to MT for 11 days of hunting with my little brother. Hopefully with Breaks tags in our pockets but most likely just OTC Archery elk. If we get done early enough we will try and get my bro a deer as well in MT. If I can squeeze the boss for a few more days of vaca I will try and do a short 4 day kamakazi run into my Idaho deer spot, if not I will be back there in Oct for general rifle.
After that it will be Washington muzzy deer and elk, Idaho deer (2 tags), fingers crossed for a Wyoming elk tag, and 3rd season Colorado deer. I put in for lots of other tags but I know I won't draw most for a few more years. Like GotMyTags stated, I pretty much have a blue print for the next 5 years.
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Archery deer WA, Archery elk Wa, muzzy deer ID. Then back to Wa to help the kid fill his tags probably go muzzy elk and rifle deer for him.
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Make it 2 in a row.
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Year 10 of the quest for a wall hanger pure bred Rosie from the Olympic Peninsula. I had a monster at 20 yards for well over a minute with no good shot last year ( he went right and came in head-on instead of left and broadside like he was supposed to). :bash: Then I had him at 35yds ten minutes later with a 6 inch tree in front of his vitals for 5 minutes, where he waited out the daylight clock on me. :bash: :bash: :bash: Maybe this year will be it. I passed on 5 other legal bulls last season, 3 of which were within 45 yards. Three of the five where 5x's. I have let some really big 5x's go on this endeavor over the years, it's been grueling and mentally challenging to say the least ( one of those big ones was at 15 yds, the biggest was at 20) . All has been done with over the counter tags. People think I'm nuts or full of crap. The voices in my head say I can't argue against that, at least not the first point :o
If and when I complete this quest, then it's east for a wall hanger Rocky.
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Quality Elk and Quality Deer toasted, cow tag toasted, got a bunch of Bull tag points, feel like Karma's tapped out in my house. Back to the big donation plan for me, don't have a plan, which is fine. Probably just donate to the cause, and keep to the same plan, family hunting time, hope to get the boy his deer.
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Year 10 of the quest for a wall hanger pure bred Rosie from the Olympic Peninsula. I had a monster at 20 yards for well over a minute with no good shot last year ( he went right and came in head-on instead of left and broadside like he was supposed to). :bash: Then I had him at 35yds ten minutes later with a 6 inch tree in front of his vitals for 5 minutes, where he waited out the daylight clock on me. :bash: :bash: :bash: Maybe this year will be it. I passed on 5 other legal bulls last season, 3 of which were within 45 yards. Three of the five where 5x's. I have let some really big 5x's go on this endeavor over the years, it's been grueling and mentally challenging to say the least ( one of those big ones was at 15 yds, the biggest was at 20) . All has been done with over the counter tags. People think I'm nuts or full of crap. The voices in my head say I can't argue against that, at least not the first point :o
If and when I complete this quest, then it's east for a wall hanger Rocky.
I'm on the same quest...
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BC moose , MT deer and :archery_smiley: WA elk :tup: and if she finds out =divorce :chuckle: :chuckle:
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Year 10 of the quest for a wall hanger pure bred Rosie from the Olympic Peninsula. I had a monster at 20 yards for well over a minute with no good shot last year ( he went right and came in head-on instead of left and broadside like he was supposed to). :bash: Then I had him at 35yds ten minutes later with a 6 inch tree in front of his vitals for 5 minutes, where he waited out the daylight clock on me. :bash: :bash: :bash: Maybe this year will be it. I passed on 5 other legal bulls last season, 3 of which were within 45 yards. Three of the five where 5x's. I have let some really big 5x's go on this endeavor over the years, it's been grueling and mentally challenging to say the least ( one of those big ones was at 15 yds, the biggest was at 20) . All has been done with over the counter tags. People think I'm nuts or full of crap. The voices in my head say I can't argue against that, at least not the first point :o
If and when I complete this quest, then it's east for a wall hanger Rocky.
a 6 in tree? that would cover up a very small amount of vital... I am assuming it had tons of branches? if not then dang man.. a 6 in tree would not stop me from shooting at a 3 ft wide target area.
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Put in for Wyoming elk tag rifle, wait and see if we draw. Deer in Washington, Haven't figure out in Washington for elk yet.
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Year 10 of the quest for a wall hanger pure bred Rosie from the Olympic Peninsula. I had a monster at 20 yards for well over a minute with no good shot last year ( he went right and came in head-on instead of left and broadside like he was supposed to). :bash: Then I had him at 35yds ten minutes later with a 6 inch tree in front of his vitals for 5 minutes, where he waited out the daylight clock on me. :bash: :bash: :bash: Maybe this year will be it. I passed on 5 other legal bulls last season, 3 of which were within 45 yards. Three of the five where 5x's. I have let some really big 5x's go on this endeavor over the years, it's been grueling and mentally challenging to say the least ( one of those big ones was at 15 yds, the biggest was at 20) . All has been done with over the counter tags. People think I'm nuts or full of crap. The voices in my head say I can't argue against that, at least not the first point :o
If and when I complete this quest, then it's east for a wall hanger Rocky.
a 6 in tree? that would cover up a very small amount of vital... I am assuming it had tons of branches? if not then dang man.. a 6 in tree would not stop me from shooting at a 3 ft wide target area.
Elk vitals are not three feet wide. I have had a bull stop at 7 yards with a 12 inch fir in front of his shoulder. I could have shot but didn't want to skip the limbs. If I was quicker than I could have stuck him a second before he stopped. But I do agree 6inches and I pick the side of the tree closest to the major vitals.
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Year 10 of the quest for a wall hanger pure bred Rosie from the Olympic Peninsula. I had a monster at 20 yards for well over a minute with no good shot last year ( he went right and came in head-on instead of left and broadside like he was supposed to). :bash: Then I had him at 35yds ten minutes later with a 6 inch tree in front of his vitals for 5 minutes, where he waited out the daylight clock on me. :bash: :bash: :bash: Maybe this year will be it. I passed on 5 other legal bulls last season, 3 of which were within 45 yards. Three of the five where 5x's. I have let some really big 5x's go on this endeavor over the years, it's been grueling and mentally challenging to say the least ( one of those big ones was at 15 yds, the biggest was at 20) . All has been done with over the counter tags. People think I'm nuts or full of crap. The voices in my head say I can't argue against that, at least not the first point :o
If and when I complete this quest, then it's east for a wall hanger Rocky.
a 6 in tree? that would cover up a very small amount of vital... I am assuming it had tons of branches? if not then dang man.. a 6 in tree would not stop me from shooting at a 3 ft wide target area.
Never ceases to amaze me how people get on here to say I would shot or why didn't you shoot when another person passes a shot they weren't comfortable with. If everyone practiced the idea of limiting their shots to ones they know they can make less game would be wounded.
For the record I'm not suggesting that you don't have the skill to make the shot the op was talking about but I don't see how you can question someone's judgment not to shoot.
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Year 10 of the quest for a wall hanger pure bred Rosie from the Olympic Peninsula. I had a monster at 20 yards for well over a minute with no good shot last year ( he went right and came in head-on instead of left and broadside like he was supposed to). :bash: Then I had him at 35yds ten minutes later with a 6 inch tree in front of his vitals for 5 minutes, where he waited out the daylight clock on me. :bash: :bash: :bash: Maybe this year will be it. I passed on 5 other legal bulls last season, 3 of which were within 45 yards. Three of the five where 5x's. I have let some really big 5x's go on this endeavor over the years, it's been grueling and mentally challenging to say the least ( one of those big ones was at 15 yds, the biggest was at 20) . All has been done with over the counter tags. People think I'm nuts or full of crap. The voices in my head say I can't argue against that, at least not the first point :o
If and when I complete this quest, then it's east for a wall hanger Rocky.
a 6 in tree? that would cover up a very small amount of vital... I am assuming it had tons of branches? if not then dang man.. a 6 in tree would not stop me from shooting at a 3 ft wide target area.
The one over the vitals is the one that stopped me from making a shot. There were actually 4 or 5 trees in a row with 8 to12 inch windows between them that the bull set up behind. I the waning light, it was not a shot I was willing to force. I thought I would have another opportunity on the bull in the coming days, but he pulled stakes and vaporized.
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