Post by: bknilvr00 on January 07, 2015, 10:09:42 AM
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Post by: Gringo31 on January 07, 2015, 10:21:20 AM
IF you are just looking for a coyote rifle. I'd go with 223 because of easy ammo. Shoot JHP or even ballistic tips and aim for the shoulder not behind. You won't have an exit. :tup:
Post by: bknilvr00 on January 07, 2015, 10:24:17 AM
You need to decide if you just want a fur friendly rifle or if you want to get all crazy on loads for it and all the details that guys can get into.Realistically, I just need a fur friendly rifle to start. I'm already gna have to shell out the cash for a gun even if I want to get into reloading. One thing at a time.
IF you are just looking for a coyote rifle. I'd go with 223 because of easy ammo. Shoot JHP or even ballistic tips and aim for the shoulder not behind. You won't have an exit. :tup:
Post by: h20hunter on January 07, 2015, 10:26:14 AM
My :twocents:
Post by: Wazukie on January 07, 2015, 10:48:16 AM
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Post by: Rich_S on January 07, 2015, 11:01:11 AM
http://www.eabco.net/Accelerator-Type-Sabots-for-30-Caliber-Cartridges-100_p_13645.html (http://www.eabco.net/Accelerator-Type-Sabots-for-30-Caliber-Cartridges-100_p_13645.html)
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So, you're sitting on a stump with your 'Ought-6, waiting fruitlessly for a 4-point to walk by and a 'yote shows up.
Slip one of these in your chamber and make his day at 4,200 fps! :yike: :IBCOOL:
Post by: Dhoey07 on January 07, 2015, 11:02:13 AM
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Post by: coyotehunter on January 07, 2015, 01:58:01 PM
The .222 is good choice, so is the 17 Rem, but I've found the .17 to be iffy dropping coyotes consistently. When you hit them right, it'll drop them solid, if not ... well I found out a .17 Rem doesn't leave much of a blood trail.
Since you have a 30-06 I know of a buddy ho shot a coyote during the deer season using the all copper Barnes TSX bullets and it dropped it cleanly and the bullet didn't blow up and it penciled right through it. But these were handloads.
Good luck
Post by: demontang on January 07, 2015, 02:15:15 PM
Post by: Bofire on January 07, 2015, 03:57:59 PM
My all time fav. dedicated coyote gun 22-250, Bolt.
2cents
Carl
Post by: Emptyhanded on January 07, 2015, 05:17:08 PM
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Post by: Charlie on January 07, 2015, 05:55:20 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on January 07, 2015, 05:57:14 PM
Post by: jasnt on January 07, 2015, 06:18:53 PM
You need to decide if you just want a fur friendly rifle or if you want to get all crazy on loads for it and all the details that guys can get into.
IF you are just looking for a coyote rifle. I'd go with 223 because of easy ammo. Shoot JHP or even ballistic tips and aim for the shoulder not behind. You won't have an exit. :tup:
I'd contact Carp, tell him you need a bolt gun in the smaller calibers....maybe .223 or .243 for a yote gun and get a good deal on one that can be loaded for yotes/deer.
My :twocents:
:yeah:
or you could get in to reloading instead and use the 06 with 110 vmax.
you wont regret learning to reload! its fun buying a new rifle too though
Post by: BKMFR on January 07, 2015, 06:27:50 PM
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Post by: carpsniperg2 on January 07, 2015, 06:39:30 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on January 07, 2015, 06:53:24 PM
Post by: bear hunter on January 07, 2015, 10:49:04 PM
Post by: bknilvr00 on January 08, 2015, 08:09:43 AM
Post by: h20hunter on January 08, 2015, 08:12:57 AM
Post by: Kittman on January 08, 2015, 08:54:15 AM
Anyone have an experience with a Ruger SR556? I'm leaning more towards an AR and really like the way it looks. Plus its a piston vs. gas impingement, which from my reading runs cleaner and has the potential for better reliability? Don't have much hands on with ARs so I'm only going off what I've read. Which can go either way.
Personally, I would put my money to better use on an AR platform as there is a better selection of proven components that would work much better for the money. Also, I couldn't afford to shoot the number of rounds it would take to make an AR dirty enough to jamb or become unreliable.
Post by: pianoman9701 on January 08, 2015, 08:59:22 AM
AR15 in 6.5 Grendel or .223
A close friend is building a 6.5 Grendel specifically to start hunting coyotes out to 500 yards. It's going to be a sweet set-up when it's finished. I'll be sure to post pics if he'll allow me to.
Post by: Jingles on January 08, 2015, 09:17:04 AM
IMO I would go with one of the .224 caliber centerfires which range from the 22 Hornet out to the 220 Swift. If only looking for a yote gun 222/ 223/ 22-250 in a bolt action model, reason I wouldn't recommend a 220 swift as they have a tendency to burn out the barrels, if after something to able to have a lot of fun with as well as hunt yotes step up to an AR platform 5.56 Nato/223.
If looking to use it for more than Just yotes step up to something in the 24 caliber range..6mm, 243, and the list goes on
Regardless of what rifle you purchase put the Best optics you can afford on it in the highest magnification you can get for yotes 6 - 18 or higher IMO
Post by: bknilvr00 on January 08, 2015, 10:33:22 AM
Post by: demontang on January 08, 2015, 02:50:56 PM
Anyone have an experience with a Ruger SR556? I'm leaning more towards an AR and really like the way it looks. Plus its a piston vs. gas impingement, which from my reading runs cleaner and has the potential for better reliability? Don't have much hands on with ARs so I'm only going off what I've read. Which can go either way.Had one and loved the thing. It was shooting 1/2" groups with just a red dot at 100yrds. It never gave me a lick of problems had to sell it in hard times which I'd love another one. It was easier to clean that's for sure and really wasn't much more the a gas gun if you get the sr556e
Post by: Bofire on January 08, 2015, 05:38:02 PM
Carl
Post by: fast1 on January 11, 2015, 08:57:40 PM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on January 11, 2015, 09:03:32 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on January 11, 2015, 09:32:23 PM
Nobody ever mentions the Savage 93 22 mag. I've killed coyotes out to a 150 yards with no problem. Bobcats too. Cheap ammo and get's the job done for around $350 with scope.
Nobody ever mentions the Savage 93 22 mag. I've killed coyotes out to a 150 yards with no problem. Bobcats too. Cheap ammo and get's the job done for around $350 with scope.Problem with that is I haven't seen a round of 22 mag on the shelf for about a year and I try and make my rounds to all the gun shops as much as I can. I'm about ready to buy a worthless .17 for plinking just so I can get some dang ammo :bash: Apparently knowbody wants that crap because there is a mountain of it everywhere I go.
Post by: CAMPMEAT on January 11, 2015, 09:38:53 PM
Nobody ever mentions the Savage 93 22 mag. I've killed coyotes out to a 150 yards with no problem. Bobcats too. Cheap ammo and get's the job done for around $350 with scope.Nobody ever mentions the Savage 93 22 mag. I've killed coyotes out to a 150 yards with no problem. Bobcats too. Cheap ammo and get's the job done for around $350 with scope.Problem with that is I haven't seen a round of 22 mag on the shelf for about a year and I try and make my rounds to all the gun shops as much as I can. I'm about ready to buy a worthless .17 for plinking just so I can get some dang ammo :bash: Apparently knowbody wants that crap because there is a mountain of it everywhere I go.
Look at the 17 WSM Savage. They have a bullbarrel one now. The package deal is pretty nice for around $400ish. I have one, standard barrel and it's faster and has a range out to 200 yards supposedly....it's snappy feeling, compared too the 22mag and better than the 17 HMR.
Post by: Special T on January 11, 2015, 09:40:05 PM
I have an 06 and here is what i would tell you about shooting Coyotes... The Accelerator rounds 223 sabot in an 30 06 case dont shoot well. I did some testing with a reload kit with my gunsmith just for fun.. dont pattern worth a damn I think there is a big problem with bullet weight and spin rate IMO Plus the speed is just so damn fast i think you get slipage between sabot and cup.
If you want to save some hide just use Ball ammo on the old 30 06. Unless you hit them in the front shoulder youll fair OK. I shot ball ammo for a long time on coyotes. some times it made a mess some times just a small hole. Since i shoot 165 grain for hunting its easy to get military ball in the same grain, and pretty cheep. Now you wont be super precision but if your just trying to get out 2-300 years youll do fine.
Post by: bknilvr00 on February 10, 2015, 10:05:57 AM
Post by: h20hunter on February 10, 2015, 10:26:36 AM
I've looked at the Leupold Mark AR in the past and been interested in a scope of that nature. Lots of options out there.....
Post by: lamrith on February 10, 2015, 07:04:48 PM
Don't forget to add a good 12 gauge shotgun to the list of coyote harvesting tools. It is very justified for the task. That and a EJ Sceery AP1 rodent coaxer and you will practically feel that coyote paws running up your knickers to get at that mouse squeaker. Usually first round is BB's followed by #4 buck, then #1 buck or 00.I was wondering about that myself. I have 223 and 6.5grendel in AR platform, but I see enopugh time people talk about yotes popping up close in and using a shotty. Any recommendations on type? Semi, pump, 18", 26", irons, red-dot?
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Post by: chester on February 17, 2015, 12:34:37 PM
Something smaller than a 300 Win MagKeep going smaller a 7mm isn't any better(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ftapatalk.imageshack.com%2Fv2%2F15%2F02%2F17%2F25b5006cee864f876ee7d5fdb71b4925.jpg&hash=44efe6d5f8f8dfab6d322260bfab65059234966d)
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looks like you knocked the scat right out of himSomething smaller than a 300 Win MagKeep going smaller a 7mm isn't any better(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ftapatalk.imageshack.com%2Fv2%2F15%2F02%2F17%2F25b5006cee864f876ee7d5fdb71b4925.jpg&hash=44efe6d5f8f8dfab6d322260bfab65059234966d)
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Post by: JJD on February 21, 2015, 04:23:56 PM
Good glass and you can take them at a pretty fair distance.
I like to snowshoe in winter, wearing white camo and carry a light black gun around the rims of the canyons. If the wind is right, I can wack 1 before they see me.
A shotgun works well calling at times.
Depends on where ya hunt.
Post by: Special T on February 21, 2015, 04:30:55 PM
Well folks the time has come. I placed an order for an AR. It's a Mossberg MMR Hunter. It should be here within the week. Now for the next choice, what do I put on top of it....
I LOVE the Nikon predator BDC for 223 AR and coyotes. I think the circle is great for running dogs. :twocents:
Post by: PiNkPaNtHeR on February 21, 2015, 10:55:48 PM
Here in the area we have way too many yotes running around and the population needs to be reduced. As soon as I can figure out what type of ammo shoots best in it, I'll be working on the population issue. I can't help but wonder how they're impacting the deer population. I'll gladly dispatch a few of them if it means more deer around in the next couple of years. I'm going to have to learn to preserve the hides, but that's another thread.
http://www.sportsmansoutdoorsuperstore.com/products2.cfm/ID/138271/22239/savage-axis-ii-xp-223-rem-camo-w-3-9x40-scope (http://www.sportsmansoutdoorsuperstore.com/products2.cfm/ID/138271/22239/savage-axis-ii-xp-223-rem-camo-w-3-9x40-scope)
Post by: AWS on February 22, 2015, 08:35:05 PM
Bullets, the Holy Grail of bullets is a fur friendly bullet that will reliably drop coyotes at all ranges, two bullets have done that for me.
The 40gr NBT in the 223 loaded hot and the 22-204 loaded hotter. I can't remember a splash wound or an exit other than shards of jacket in pin hole exits. I will say I've never shot a predator over 150yards with it.
The second is the Speer 52gr HP Varmint bullet. I've shot it out of the 222 Rem, 5.6x50R Mag and 22-250. It seems to work at all speeds and has been surprisingly accurate in all of them. It s an old bullet, huge HP and doesn't have a BC that isn't even mentionable but it just keeps on working.
Byron South really likes the 60gr V-Max out of the 223.
I've played with the 6mm's in the 6x45mm and the 6mm-204, the 58gr V-max has been great on larger winter coyote up north, I took it down south and it was brutal on slighter built lighter furred coyotes down there.
I don't have a lot of experience on cats but have shot a lot of fox and the 22 Hornet, 218 Bee, down loaded 222 and 223's and a cast bullet in the 300 Savage have left me with good pelts and that was in the days of $100 red.
My favorite rigs for hunting called coyotes and saving pelts, Bolt guns in 6mm-204(58gr V-Max at 3600fps) and 22-204(40gr NBT at 3950fps)topped with a 1.5x6x40mm scope, a giant FOV for close in and heavy cover preds and enough X's to extend ranges reliably to 300 yards(pretty much my limit shooting over sticks in field situations), a combo gun in 5.6x50R Mag(52 gr Speer HP) under a 2 3/4" full choked 12ga topped with a 1x4x20mm scope again even more FOV and 4x for a shot again to 300 yards, and a bolt gun in 22-250(52gr Speer HP) topped with a 2.5x10x40mm scope. All are equipped with plain duplex reticles as they all shoot flat enough that I can hold on fur to 300 yards.
Welcome to predator hunting, call in that first coyote you will hooked.
Post by: bknilvr00 on February 23, 2015, 10:14:17 AM
Post by: h20hunter on February 23, 2015, 10:15:39 AM
Lets take the AR's......go for a walk up the hill, set up a few targets with a good back stop and fire off a few. This coming weekend is looking decent for a walk.
Post by: h20hunter on February 23, 2015, 10:17:54 AM
Post by: bknilvr00 on February 23, 2015, 10:24:33 AM
Also, now that you have the shooter in hand we can talk break in. You going to do anything or just starting flinging lead?Well I'm gna strip it down completely tonight. Like all new guns from the factory it's well lubricated lol. Gna give it a good scrub. Don't plan on going bananas when it comes time to shoot either. Nice and easy break in, the fun will come with the critters it takes.
Post by: JJD on February 27, 2015, 12:37:59 PM
Post by: h20hunter on February 27, 2015, 12:50:40 PM
I don't know what is the right way.....blaze away or the OCD. Personally, when my AR was new, I shot one round and cleaned x10. Then 2 rounds clean x10. Then 5 rounds clean x 5. Then of course I went out and blazed away and ran about 300 rounds way way to fast.
Post by: PiNkPaNtHeR on March 04, 2015, 10:44:06 AM
Something smaller than a 300 Win Mag
Looks like the tail could be saved. That's a good-looking tail.