Post by: andersonjk4 on January 23, 2015, 12:39:33 PM
Post by: Dhoey07 on January 23, 2015, 12:54:40 PM
Post by: CP on January 23, 2015, 12:55:41 PM
Post by: Gobble on January 23, 2015, 12:55:57 PM
I can't really think of a situation where a scoped shotty would have gotten me a bird, as opposed to open sights
:yeah:
Post by: andersonjk4 on January 23, 2015, 01:06:26 PM
Maybe I'm just too bored and getting a little too anxious for turkey season. :dunno: :chuckle:
Post by: Bob33 on January 23, 2015, 01:14:29 PM
Post by: andersonjk4 on January 23, 2015, 02:32:16 PM
I've used one successfully. I had a shotgun that had a rifled barrel that I used for big game. It had a 2-7x power scope on the receiver. I swapped out the rifled barrel for the smoothbore and hunted turkeys. It was great to be able to aim and know precisely where the shot would hit. At close ranges, the extra tight chokes produce a small shot pattern.
Thanks for the reply. This is exactly why I'm considering it. I don't really see any major down side. And can see some possible upside to having a more precise aiming point.
I may have forgot to mention I missed two toms last year. :chuckle: one I shot over and the ducked behind a log right as I shot.... And of course a little tom fever was involved in both. :mgun:
Post by: Bob33 on January 23, 2015, 02:34:40 PM
It's the first time I had ever "sighted in" a shotgun with shot. I actually had to make significant scope adjustments to change the point of impact to where I wanted it. Put the crosshairs on the head or neck, and squeeze the trigger.I've used one successfully. I had a shotgun that had a rifled barrel that I used for big game. It had a 2-7x power scope on the receiver. I swapped out the rifled barrel for the smoothbore and hunted turkeys. It was great to be able to aim and know precisely where the shot would hit. At close ranges, the extra tight chokes produce a small shot pattern.
Thanks for the reply. This is exactly why I'm considering it. I don't really see any major down side. And can see some possible upside to having a more precise aiming point.
I may have forgot to mention I missed two toms last year. :chuckle: one I shot over and the ducked behind a log right as I shot.... And of course a little tom fever was involved in both. :mgun:
Post by: bearpaw on January 23, 2015, 03:37:00 PM
I generally think your maximum effective range is whatever the farthest distance that your gun will consistently put at least three bb's in the kill zone of the neck/head. Other hunters may have a different formula but this has worked pretty well for us. I have been amazed at how many hunters really don't know these things about their gun and ammo. Many shotguns hit high, low, or off to one side. Changing brands of cartridges or size of shot can make big differences for better or for worse. Whether you hunt with or without a scope, in my opinion you really need to know these three things about your gun and the ammo you are using to be an effective turkey hunter as often as possible. Hope that helps. :hello:
Post by: Miles on January 23, 2015, 03:49:00 PM
Post by: andersonjk4 on January 23, 2015, 03:51:53 PM
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on January 23, 2015, 03:54:28 PM
Post by: Miles on January 23, 2015, 03:56:22 PM
Totally agree bearpaw. I haven't done that extensive of patterning, but I did 25, 40, and 50 yards. I guess I think of adding a scope as a way to take one more variable out of the hunt. Anyone have any negative experiences with a scoped shotgun while turkey hunting?
Ever had to hold in place for a long time waiting for a tom? Now imagine fogging up your scope while waiting.... Fun huh? How about hunting in the rain/mist?
Keep it simple.
Post by: andersonjk4 on January 23, 2015, 03:58:35 PM
Don't complicate things... Shotguns are made to point and shoot.
Agreed..... At least for shooting flying birds and clays, but when you are shooting at a turkey head/neck that is only a few inches wide, why not have something that lets you aim more accurately?
Post by: andersonjk4 on January 23, 2015, 04:00:28 PM
Totally agree bearpaw. I haven't done that extensive of patterning, but I did 25, 40, and 50 yards. I guess I think of adding a scope as a way to take one more variable out of the hunt. Anyone have any negative experiences with a scoped shotgun while turkey hunting?
Ever had to hold in place for a long time waiting for a tom? Now imagine fogging up your scope while waiting.... Fun huh? How about hunting in the rain/mist?
Keep it simple.
That is very true. I didn't think about that. All very good thoughts here. This is why I asked the question.
Post by: Miles on January 23, 2015, 04:15:30 PM
Don't complicate things... Shotguns are made to point and shoot.
Agreed..... At least for shooting flying birds and clays, but when you are shooting at a turkey head/neck that is only a few inches wide, why not have something that lets you aim more accurately?
If you are comfortable with your shotgun and it fits you correctly... Both eyes open, point (aim/focus), base of the neck, bang.....dead bird. I've never personally had the desire to put a scope on a shotgun?? It's a close range firearm with multiple projectiles.
I have had several toms that surprised me coming in quiet and I prefer to have the "open" view that a shotgun provides when taking quick shots. I'm sure some of the uppity ups here on huntwa will chime in, but If a turkey turns and runs I will take the shot every day of the week. Adding a scope only makes those shots harder.
Post by: bearpaw on January 23, 2015, 04:24:33 PM
Totally agree bearpaw. I haven't done that extensive of patterning, but I did 25, 40, and 50 yards. I guess I think of adding a scope as a way to take one more variable out of the hunt. Anyone have any negative experiences with a scoped shotgun while turkey hunting?
When there is plenty of time I see no real disadvantage for almost any hunter to use a scope and a scope might be an advantage for some hunters when they have lots of time to aim.
I have seen situations where the hunter was not quick at aiming their scoped shotgun and they might have missed out on a good shot opportunity that they might have capitalized on with an open sight shotgun. If you are fast at putting the scoped gun up and acquiring the target that wouldn't be an issue. On the other hand there are plenty of guys who are good with open sights and regularly shoot right on so a scope probably wouldn't benefit them.
I think it's more a matter of preference and getting to know the shotgun you are shooting. Get to know your gun well, whether it has a scope or not you will do well. :tup:
Post by: Limhangerslayer on January 24, 2015, 01:40:43 PM
Post by: RadSav on January 24, 2015, 02:11:44 PM
Have you thought of a holosight? I'm getting my gun drilled and tapped this week to put one on. 1x magnification best of both worlds in my opinion. Should prevent shooting high, which is how most turkeys are missed.
:tup: I have not hunted turkey with that type of sight, but I have hunted dogs that way. It's pretty fantastic!
Post by: PA BEN on January 25, 2015, 10:00:53 AM
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Post by: turkeydancer on January 26, 2015, 08:39:30 AM
:yike:
I picked up a Sightmark Holographic sight for about $50 which has 4 reticle and 7 different light settings to chose from ... after sighting in, all I have to do is put the single bead on where I want to hit and it's quick and lethal ... no lining up the front and back sights with where I want to hit. For my money at least, it' a godsend.
:tup:
Post by: jasnt on January 26, 2015, 09:06:54 AM
Post by: andersonjk4 on January 26, 2015, 09:20:06 AM
Post by: Yelper Guy on January 26, 2015, 09:21:40 AM
He hasn't missed since. As my eyes get older I may be getting one myself
Post by: mossy8352 on January 26, 2015, 09:21:53 AM
Post by: jasnt on January 26, 2015, 10:36:39 AM
I've used a ghost ring on a muzzleloader in the past and liked it. And I've been considering it for my shotgun. But I do like the idea of having a sight/scope mounted a little higher so you can be in a more natural shooting position as Jackelope said. And that gobble stopper red-dot looks like a nice set-up.I like a taller sight my self. One of the reasons I went with this setup
Post by: MtnMuley on January 26, 2015, 11:57:46 AM
Post by: mossy8352 on January 26, 2015, 12:47:45 PM
Post by: MtnMuley on January 26, 2015, 07:01:02 PM
Post by: ghosthunter on January 26, 2015, 07:33:32 PM
Post by: mossy8352 on January 26, 2015, 10:21:05 PM
http://muelleroptics.com/mqs12233#more-85 (http://muelleroptics.com/mqs12233#more-85)
Post by: jasnt on January 26, 2015, 10:56:56 PM
This my shotgun with the Mueller on a Picatinny Rail if that helps. The only issue is you should use Loctite on the rail mounting screws once it is sighted in. Never had it give me any problems and yes I do carry a spare battery as one cap screw loosened up and it is replaced.
Have you used it in the rain? My friend has a site like that but not camo. We were sighting it in during a light sprinkle and water got in front of the laser and distorted the sight window enough that his groups went way off. At one point he saw 2 dots so we noticed what the trouble was
Post by: turkeydancer on January 27, 2015, 07:58:51 AM
http://www.opticsplanet.com/yukon-sightmark-reflex-sight-sm13003b.html (http://www.opticsplanet.com/yukon-sightmark-reflex-sight-sm13003b.html)
Post by: mossy8352 on January 27, 2015, 09:14:25 AM
This my shotgun with the Mueller on a Picatinny Rail if that helps. The only issue is you should use Loctite on the rail mounting screws once it is sighted in. Never had it give me any problems and yes I do carry a spare battery as one cap screw loosened up and it is replaced.
Have you used it in the rain? My friend has a site like that but not camo. We were sighting it in during a light sprinkle and water got in front of the laser and distorted the sight window enough that his groups went way off. At one point he saw 2 dots so we noticed what the trouble was
Yes rain and snow no issues so far.
Post by: MtnMuley on January 27, 2015, 02:29:11 PM
Post by: WARHORSE on January 27, 2015, 02:52:44 PM
:tup: Thanks guys. I'll check them out..
:chuckle: you think it will help? :chuckle:
Kidding! I have thought about one but thought i read once they wernt legal in this lovely state :dunno:
Post by: MtnMuley on January 28, 2015, 03:02:39 PM
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