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Other Hunting => Bird Dogs => Topic started by: GrampasGuns on February 12, 2015, 07:07:53 PM

Title: Hunting bred Springers?
Post by: GrampasGuns on February 12, 2015, 07:07:53 PM: My best buddy is in the market for a bird dog in the next year, and he is dead set on a springer. Does anyone know of a reputable hunting springer breeder in WA/OR/ID? Would love to help him find a good flushing dog.

Thanks in advance for any tips!
Title: Re: Hunting bred Springers?
Post by: pens fan on February 13, 2015, 05:40:28 AM: Does it have to be a Springer?
Title: Re: Hunting bred Springers?
Post by: Skyvalhunter on February 13, 2015, 05:43:35 AM: No it can be a Brittany
Title: Re: Hunting bred Springers?
Post by: Katmai Guy on February 13, 2015, 07:02:26 AM: Tim Whitney, Stonebroke Kennels. I got a pup from Tim about 6 yrs ago and have not been disappointed. Nice size, great nose, not afraid to go deep in the brush/blackberries, never slows down. Great dog.
Title: Re: Hunting bred Springers?
Post by: Bluemoon on February 13, 2015, 08:28:07 AM: Just got off the phone with breeder before getting on here. There is an outstanding repeat breeding of Field Springers taking place next week, We have a female from the last litter who is just amazing and will be getting another from this one. If you would like some more information fill free to get a hold of me.
Title: Re: Hunting bred Springers?
Post by: jetjockey on February 13, 2015, 12:32:35 PM: Quote from: Skyvalhunter on February 13, 2015, 05:43:35 AM
No it can be a Brittany

Brits are pointing dogs though.

If I were getting a dog to hunt a variety of game birds, Id get a brit over a springer. If I wanted a dedicated pheasant dog, it would be hard to get against a springer all. I've had the opportunity to hunt over some very good FC Springers. They are awesome pheasant dogs.
Title: Re: Hunting bred Springers?
Post by: AspenBud on February 13, 2015, 12:39:58 PM: Quote from: jetjockey on February 13, 2015, 12:32:35 PM
Quote from: Skyvalhunter on February 13, 2015, 05:43:35 AM
No it can be a Brittany

Brits are pointing dogs though.

If I were getting a dog to hunt a variety of game birds, Id get a brit over a springer. If I wanted a dedicated pheasant dog, it would be hard to get against a springer all. I've had the opportunity to hunt over some very good FC Springers. They are awesome pheasant dogs.

The Springer makes a better choice if you want a dog that can pinch hit as a duck dog.
Title: Re: Hunting bred Springers?
Post by: GrampasGuns on February 13, 2015, 01:10:32 PM: :yeah:
Quote from: AspenBud on February 13, 2015, 12:39:58 PM
Quote from: jetjockey on February 13, 2015, 12:32:35 PM
Quote from: Skyvalhunter on February 13, 2015, 05:43:35 AM
No it can be a Brittany

Brits are pointing dogs though.

If I were getting a dog to hunt a variety of game birds, Id get a brit over a springer. If I wanted a dedicated pheasant dog, it would be hard to get against a springer all. I've had the opportunity to hunt over some very good FC Springers. They are awesome pheasant dogs.

The Springer makes a better choice if you want a dog that can pinch hit as a duck dog.

My buddy needs a flushing dog that we hope to get retrieving ducks, thats the whole idea! Man, I wish I was in the market for a 3rd dog im loving the looks of all these springers!
Title: Re: Hunting bred Springers?
Post by: pens fan on February 13, 2015, 08:10:11 PM: These guys are natural waterdogs and flushers...not pressing you, just providing a viable option.
Title: Re: Hunting bred Springers?
Post by: GrampasGuns on February 14, 2015, 12:08:18 AM: Quote from: pens fan on February 13, 2015, 08:10:11 PM
These guys are natural waterdogs and flushers...not pressing you, just providing a viable option.

Pens Fan,

Beleive you me, I have been begging my lady to let me get a boykin for a few years. Tried to talk the buddy into the boykin but hes dead set on a springer.

Awesome looking dog man! :tup:
Title: Re: Hunting bred Springers?
Post by: pens fan on February 14, 2015, 01:40:37 PM: I understand the breed specific thing.
And thanks...he is a handsome dog.
Good luck on the lady thing!
Title: Re: Hunting bred Springers?
Post by: wildweeds on February 14, 2015, 06:21:20 PM: Field bred cockers are cool little dogs as well.....
Title: Re: Hunting bred Springers?
Post by: pens fan on February 14, 2015, 09:10:46 PM: Yes they are. Don't see many, though.
Title: Re: Hunting bred Springers?
Post by: Blackjaw on February 23, 2015, 07:25:41 AM: Finally got around to looking at the pics I took this season (note to self, try to take more than 4 next year).

Nigel on left and Duke on right. Duke found both of these, but I probably hunted Nigel more this day.

The ground we were hunting was probably more suitable for a pointing dog, but the cockers did ok.
Title: Re: Hunting bred Springers?
Post by: AspenBud on February 23, 2015, 09:41:35 AM: I don't know why I didn't remember this, try and track down a guy named Jeff Miller over in Rochester. He apparently owns an operation called Blackriver Kennels and he's a veterinarian as well. The gentleman is supposed to be one of the more respected Springer people around with 30+ years dealing with the breed and he has spent time even training abroad in Wales at one of the bigger name kennels there.

I'm ripping this off another site but...

"The Pel Tan Roly Challenge Trophy

Presented to the winning dog at the Canadian National Open All Age field Trial Championship

Donated by Jeff Miller in memory of two time winner of Canadian National NFCH Pel Tan Roly

From Rochester Washington Jeff Miller owns and operates Blackriver Kennels and has trained and handled numerous Field Champions both in Canada and the USA, two of which are Canadian National Field Trial Champions. His most beloved dog Roly won two Nationals, Placed 2nd at a National, was a Canadian Field Trial Champion, U.S. Open All Age Field Trial Champion as well as US Amateur Field Trial Champion. He also sired Canadian National Champion, CNFC Blackriver's Keno and was the grandfather of two U.S Open National Champions, NFC Canis Serius and NFC G&D's Edward. As well he has been inducted into the Gundog Hall of Fame.

Roly is truly a dog truly worth recognition."

Also, these guys might also be able to help you out.

http://www.wwessc.org/ (http://www.wwessc.org/)
Title: Re: Hunting bred Springers?
Post by: AspenBud on February 23, 2015, 01:33:11 PM: Another good resource...

http://www.essfta.org/ (http://www.essfta.org/)
Title: Re: Hunting bred Springers?
Post by: Blackjaw on February 24, 2015, 07:48:17 AM: AspenBud is right about WWESSC, one of there members would know about upcoming litters. I am a member of WWESSC and the local cocker club. Let me know if you want me to as about upcoming litters or those on the ground.

Rick
Title: Re: Hunting bred Springers?
Post by: wildweeds on February 24, 2015, 12:25:34 PM: So you probably know Alfred DeFalco?
Quote from: Blackjaw on February 24, 2015, 07:48:17 AM
AspenBud is right about WWESSC, one of there members would know about upcoming litters. I am a member of WWESSC and the local cocker club. Let me know if you want me to as about upcoming litters or those on the ground.

Rick
Title: Re: Hunting bred Springers?
Post by: Blackjaw on February 24, 2015, 12:29:35 PM: Yep, got my first Springer from Al. He has switched to Cockers (like me) and is still going strong.
Title: Re: Hunting bred Springers?
Post by: Katmai Guy on February 24, 2015, 12:51:43 PM: Go online and look at SITFFR Foundation. Stands for Spaniels in the field and flushing retrievers. Used to subscribe and got lots of good info when I bought my first springer.