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Title: Spring Elk Hunt
Post by: Astocks2622 on February 13, 2015, 07:19:54 AM
I got lucky & drew a very late elk hunt that runs March1-15!  It's an antlerless only archery hunt on farm land near Turnbull National Wildlife Refuge.  I have been hunting elk in NE Washington for 6 years, & while I've gotten close, I've never gotten a shot. 
I'm looking for advice as far as differences in hunting elk in the Spring, & how to change up my calling.  I know that bugles will be out of place in the spring, so I'm planning mostly on cow/calf location calls. 
thanks for any help!
Title: Re: Spring Elk Hunt
Post by: Tbar on February 13, 2015, 07:33:08 AM
Get ahold of the wdfw. Either an officer or local biologist will bea start. A cow call will still stop them but calling is probably not real effective.  A lost calf (real short and rapid) might work.  It probably goes without saying but this is a controversial time of year to hunt. There is a management side that is often overlooked.  Best of luck.
Title: Re: Spring Elk Hunt
Post by: Encore 280 on February 13, 2015, 07:42:30 AM
If I had the tag I sure wouldn't be going for a cow for obvious reasons but one of last years calves would sure taste mighty fine. :tup: Good luck.
Title: Re: Spring Elk Hunt
Post by: bobcat on February 13, 2015, 07:49:36 AM
You're hunting farm land, sounds like you just need to catch a herd feeding in a field. I assume you'll need to be in contact with landowners for permission to hunt, and those people will be your best source of information on where the elk are. Or, like tbar said, the WDFW. It should be an easy hunt. I assume it's a modern firearm permit?

Oh, and by the way, the first day of spring is March 22.
Title: Re: Spring Elk Hunt
Post by: nwwanderer on February 13, 2015, 07:55:33 AM
Second Encore, shoot the calf.  Archery only?  Could be tough, already greening up, will not be in any bodies feed yard.
Title: Re: Spring Elk Hunt
Post by: bobcat on February 13, 2015, 08:00:18 AM
Oops, I missed that it is an archery hunt. Yeah, not so easy! Maybe ambush them between feeding and bedding areas.
Title: Re: Spring Elk Hunt
Post by: WSU on February 13, 2015, 08:03:27 AM
Your best bet will definitely be to ambush them transitioning from feeding to bedding or to find them somewhere you can put a stalk on them.
Title: Re: Spring Elk Hunt
Post by: xXLojackXx on February 13, 2015, 08:32:20 AM
Should be easy to find them down low (under 2000'). If it's on farm land it might be even easier. Than just play the wind and their eyes like you would any other time of the year to get in position. I probably wouldn't make a sound. You'll only give away your position.
Title: Re: Spring Elk Hunt
Post by: Elkrunner on February 13, 2015, 11:15:45 AM
I would be more worried about getting one and opening it up to a baby elk.  I am not sure I would want to see that.
Title: Re: Spring Elk Hunt
Post by: vandeman17 on February 13, 2015, 11:17:43 AM
I would be more worried about getting one and opening it up to a baby elk.  I am not sure I would want to see that.

 :yeah: :yeah:
Title: Re: Spring Elk Hunt
Post by: Jonathan_S on February 13, 2015, 11:20:10 AM
I would be more worried about getting one and opening it up to a baby elk.  I am not sure I would want to see that.

My dad shot a cow elk back in the 80s during a late damage hunt over by Buckley.  Said the fetus was really disturbing and he wished he had shot a calf.

This is going to be a tough hunt   :twocents:
Title: Re: Spring Elk Hunt
Post by: Elkrunner on February 13, 2015, 11:21:48 AM
I have heard of a few horror stories.  Sounds to me that it would be hard to handle.  If I really needed the meat to survive, I guess that would be a different story.   
Title: Re: Spring Elk Hunt
Post by: BULLBLASTER on February 13, 2015, 11:31:53 AM
Should be easy to find them down low (under 2000'). If it's on farm land it might be even easier. Than just play the wind and their eyes like you would any other time of the year to get in position. I probably wouldn't make a sound. You'll only give away your position.
since the hunt is by turnbull elevation is of no concern. Its all flat for the most part.  :chuckle: and good luck getting under 2000 feet there.
Title: Re: Spring Elk Hunt
Post by: jstone on February 13, 2015, 11:34:06 AM
Just my opinion they should not give spring tags out..
Title: Re: Spring Elk Hunt
Post by: Jonathan_S on February 13, 2015, 11:34:18 AM
Should be easy to find them down low (under 2000'). If it's on farm land it might be even easier. Than just play the wind and their eyes like you would any other time of the year to get in position. I probably wouldn't make a sound. You'll only give away your position.
since the hunt is by turnbull elevation is of no concern. Its all flat for the most part.  :chuckle:

I had to :chuckle: too when I read that thinking of the Cheney area.

Title: Re: Spring Elk Hunt
Post by: Jonathan_S on February 13, 2015, 11:35:07 AM
Just my opinion they should not give spring tags out..

Just curious...why?

Also, remember Bobcat told us that Spring isn't until March 22nd  :P
Title: Re: Spring Elk Hunt
Post by: BULLBLASTER on February 13, 2015, 11:46:26 AM
A november cow is pregnant just like a march cow is. The calf is just far more developed into late winter amd spring. Same end result if the cow is removed. I am not for or against these hunts because i dont kow the science there. I would be inclined to try and shoot last years calf thos as a personel preference. Just so i dont have to encounter a unborn calf.
Title: Re: Spring Elk Hunt
Post by: Jonathan_S on February 13, 2015, 11:54:37 AM
A november cow is pregnant just like a march cow is. The calf is just far more developed into late winter amd spring. Same end result if the cow is removed. I am not for or against these hunts because i dont kow the science there. I would be inclined to try and shoot last years calf thos as a personel preference. Just so i dont have to encounter a unborn calf.

Exactly, on all points.
Title: Re: Spring Elk Hunt
Post by: luvmystang67 on February 13, 2015, 12:12:22 PM
A november cow is pregnant just like a march cow is. The calf is just far more developed into late winter amd spring. Same end result if the cow is removed. I am not for or against these hunts because i dont kow the science there. I would be inclined to try and shoot last years calf thos as a personel preference. Just so i dont have to encounter a unborn calf.

Unborn animals are fairly fascinating though... I mean its a little weird because you're not used to it, but its kind of a neat learning experience. :twocents:

On the farm we occasionally would cut open the uterus of a dying ewe (disease, dogs, old age, etc) and pull the lambs out to see if we could save them.  Had about a 50% success rate (some of them were a little TOO premature).
Title: Re: Spring Elk Hunt
Post by: Yankee on February 13, 2015, 12:26:20 PM
Probably the best instance for using the gutless method to remove the meat?
Title: Re: Spring Elk Hunt
Post by: gunnarnewt on February 13, 2015, 12:26:50 PM
Had a friend with a late cow tag (muzzy) and when we cut her open (mid January) you could see the calf's outline in her uterus. To me, it was a little disturbing.  :twocents:  I agree with others, shoot a young one, and enjoy the meat! Good luck.
Title: Re: Spring Elk Hunt
Post by: tonymiller7 on February 13, 2015, 12:53:37 PM
Get permission to put out salt/mineral and hunt over that.
Title: Re: Spring Elk Hunt
Post by: jbeaumont21 on February 13, 2015, 03:29:03 PM
Sounds like 2 for the price of 1, who doesn't like veal?  Sorry someone had to go there.
Title: Re: Spring Elk Hunt
Post by: moocher97 on February 13, 2015, 03:51:47 PM
Well if its an archery farmland hunt find where there feeding in the morning and evening and get in front of them transitioning back into the timber.
Title: Re: Spring Elk Hunt
Post by: Jonathan_S on February 13, 2015, 03:53:46 PM
Well if its an archery farmland hunt find where there feeding in the morning and evening and get in front of them transitioning back into the timber.

Much easier said than done in huge, open, flat land where the wind whips and changes direction on a dime.
Title: Re: Spring Elk Hunt
Post by: Dan-o on February 13, 2015, 04:37:05 PM
Good luck to the hunter.       :tup:

I try not to second guess WDFW because they have a tough job to do and I assume there's a reason for it.

I wonder if these elk are fairly patternable this time of year in this situation (farm land)?

I've shot a few elk off farm land......   yummy.
Title: Re: Spring Elk Hunt
Post by: trophyhunt on February 13, 2015, 04:42:21 PM
I just don't get why these damage control hunts are archery when it's open farm land?  Why not just make it any weapon? When I do apply for a cow or meat hunt it's going to be a quick shot to the head.  IMHO .  I'd also be careful to make sure it's not a bull that had dropped his head gear, good luck. 
Title: Re: Spring Elk Hunt
Post by: Bob33 on February 13, 2015, 04:45:48 PM
I just don't get why these damage control hunts are archery when it's open farm land?  Why not just make it any weapon? When I do apply for a cow or meat hunt it's going to be a quick shot to the head.  IMHO .  I'd also be careful to make sure it's not a bull that had dropped his head gear, good luck.
I believe this permit matches the tag of the hunter that draws it.
Title: Re: Spring Elk Hunt
Post by: Curly on February 13, 2015, 05:04:57 PM
Probably the best instance for using the gutless method to remove the meat?
Yeah.  I was going to suggest that too.
Title: Re: Spring Elk Hunt
Post by: Bob33 on February 13, 2015, 05:06:33 PM
I'd also be careful to make sure it's not a bull that had dropped his head gear, good luck.
Why would he care about that?
Title: Re: Spring Elk Hunt
Post by: 6haase6 on February 13, 2015, 05:18:11 PM
I was thinking the same thing  :yeah: was also kinda thinking this is an easy answer to the shooting a pregnant cow dilemma.
Title: Re: Spring Elk Hunt
Post by: bobcat on February 13, 2015, 05:19:32 PM
I'd also be careful to make sure it's not a bull that had dropped his head gear, good luck.
Why would he care about that?

That's actually a good point. If a bull is without antlers, it's legal with an antlerless permit, and no baby elk inside to worry about. Might be a better option than a calf- more meat. But then again, hunting with a bow, probably have to take what you can get.
Title: Re: Spring Elk Hunt
Post by: BULLBLASTER on February 13, 2015, 06:11:06 PM
I think the primary point of these tags is to pressure the animals off of farms and keep the, from destroying crops and not necessarily to reduce numbers.  Though reduction would be a side affect

Good luck!
Title: Re: Spring Elk Hunt
Post by: Eli346 on February 13, 2015, 06:18:25 PM
Use the gutless method and you won't have to worry about seeing a fetus. I know that would bother me; especially as late as this hunt is.
Title: Re: Spring Elk Hunt
Post by: coachcw on February 13, 2015, 08:01:41 PM
Two Fer ! Bring the crock pot !
Title: Re: Spring Elk Hunt
Post by: Bullkllr on February 13, 2015, 08:19:21 PM
Two Fer ! Bring the crock pot !

They'd make him buy another tag.
Title: Re: Spring Elk Hunt
Post by: hogslayer on February 13, 2015, 08:41:04 PM
I would wait until they are feeding in the middle of a field and have your buddy drive his dirt bike right into the herd.  Then you sit on the back with at least a 12 pack of arrows and start letting them fly.  Should be able to make it happen.  And just gut the thing during the night and you won't have to worry about seeing jr.  You could always close your eye's to. 
Title: Re: Spring Elk Hunt
Post by: Jonathan_S on February 13, 2015, 08:54:13 PM
You could always close your eye's to. 

Good call
Title: Re: Spring Elk Hunt
Post by: RockChuck on February 14, 2015, 07:02:54 AM
Last year's calf would be very tast! And much easier to drag....
Title: Re: Spring Elk Hunt
Post by: trophyhunt on February 14, 2015, 03:22:57 PM

I'd also be careful to make sure it's not a bull that had dropped his head gear, good luck.
Why would he care about that?
i didn't think it was legal to kill a bull w/out antlers on a cow hunt, guess I'm wrong.  I personally would not want to kill a bull or buck w/out antlers, but that's just me.



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Title: Re: Spring Elk Hunt
Post by: Bob33 on February 14, 2015, 03:38:55 PM

I'd also be careful to make sure it's not a bull that had dropped his head gear, good luck.
Why would he care about that?
i didn't think it was legal to kill a bull w/out antlers on a cow hunt, guess I'm wrong.  I personally would not want to kill a bull or buck w/out antlers, but that's just me.



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There are no "cow" hunts. There are antlerless hunts. :tup:
Title: Re: Spring Elk Hunt
Post by: groundhog on February 27, 2015, 01:18:49 PM
In my mind it would be a damn shame if someone shot a bull that had already shed his antlers on a antlerless hunt. One less mature bull for breeding and one less for some lucky hunter that draws a bull tag next year. In my opinion we should not have any antlerless hunts after January 31. Good luck on your hunt though, I hope you get a young tender cow or calf.
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