Hunting Washington Forum
Big Game Hunting => Backcountry Hunting => Topic started by: Firefighter44 on February 14, 2015, 11:19:04 AM
-
Have any of you spent any time in the pasayten wilderness area? Myself and some buddies from work are planning on doing the high buck hunt this year. In the planning stage and will be taking a few scouting trips this summer. Any pics of your trophies or just the scenery would be awesome!
Thanks!!!
-
I've never shot anything in the paseyten but I've had fun trying.
I'll try to post my pics. You can also use the search bar on the site here and you'll find a lot of information on the area.
-
Here's your GPS coordinates I would hunt if I had a young group of guys to hunt with.
Never been there but always have thought it would have some nice bucks, go check it out and let us all know how you do. :hello:
48.823203, -120.245500
-
If you hunt on or near a trail even 5-10 miles or more in expect company. My advice is get off the trails and get to an area you would think no one would be then go another mile or 2. I tried to warn a buddy that went in last year he went 4-6 miles then took an unmaintained trail another 2 miles and there were still 2 camps in the basin he thought he would have all to himself.
-
People might be more willing to give advice if post something on this thread too. :chuckle:
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,329.0.html (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,329.0.html)
-
If you hunt on or near a trail even 5-10 miles or more in expect company. My advice is get off the trails and get to an area you would think no one would be then go another mile or 2. I tried to warn a buddy that went in last year he went 4-6 miles then took an unmaintained trail another 2 miles and there were still 2 camps in the basin he thought he would have all to himself.
I do believe the GPS coordinates I posted will take care of that issue. :tup:
-
Been there a few times but never for hunting! The scenery is stunning!
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi757.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fxx215%2Fsteen_photos%2FPasayten%25202012%2FIMG_0405.jpg&hash=e64a8d58e0af8c6a259863d94247629426f9da4a) (http://s757.photobucket.com/user/steen_photos/media/Pasayten%202012/IMG_0405.jpg.html)
-
Thanks for posting Steen, on horse back I bet. See any deer?
Looks beautiful. :tup:
-
My Pasayten camp from a few years ago. In my opinion, unless you're looking down on goats during the high hunt, you're not high enough. Lots of hunters working down in the basins - get up in the shale and scree to find the bucks. Be prepared to move camp frequently, and be ok with sleeping out on the mountain if you can't get back to camp if you've chased deer over hill and dale.
My $.02
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimagizer.imageshack.us%2Fa%2Fimg508%2F7505%2Fcampabovesilverlake2924.jpg&hash=852a3a25c283fb09b4426133beb0d3d963e4cff8)
-
been there 3 times backpacking. saw 2 nice bucks(28 plus) on the stub creek trail. that is a long way in. it is south of quartz lake and north of hidden lakes. hidden lakes had some nice fish . mike w
-
Harts pass area is always a good bet for the high hunt. :tup:
-
Maybe a good place to park, but it gets absolutely hammered during the high hunt. There will be 20+ rigs worth of guys dayhunting out of the Slate Peak parking area, and another dozen or so rigs illegally hunting outside of the legal open areas. Avoid that zoo of you can, imho.
-
Have spent just a little time in the Paysayten.. Sorry about the quality of the photos but they were taken with a flip phone
Pictures 1 & 2 up Beauty creek trail
Pictures 3 & 4, between McCalls Gulch and Wolf Creek Basin
Pic 5 water supply up beauty creek
-
I shot my goat up beauty creek toward devils peak. it was close to boone and crockett. awesome country. don't think goat can be hunted there anymore. found a moose shed high on a ridge and saw wolf tracks. this was in the 1970's. mike w
-
Maybe a good place to park, but it gets absolutely hammered during the high hunt. There will be 20+ rigs worth of guys dayhunting out of the Slate Peak parking area, and another dozen or so rigs illegally hunting outside of the legal open areas. Avoid that zoo of you can, imho.
That statement is absolutely verifiable!
-
Thank you all for the info! I look forward to getting in there and scouting the country. Some cool pics, looks like some beautiful country!
-
Don't let the high amount of hunters scare you lots of acreage there. Have a back up plan as if you like one area and it becomes crowded have another spot in mind.
-
Don't let the high amount of hunters scare you lots of acreage there. Have a back up plan as if you like one area and it becomes crowded have another spot in mind.
Learned my lesson on that one this past season. I scouted out a nice looking spot all summer, never saw anyone there. Come high hunt season I sneak up there and find 3 other people already there. :chuckle:
-
I did the high hunt for the first time last year. Did not hunt in Pasayten, but it looks really intriguing. Can anyone comment on numbers of hunters in Pasayten vs other wilderness areas such as GP or AL? What about deer numbers? I was in GP last year, so that's my only reference point.
-
I did the high hunt for the first time last year. Did not hunt in Pasayten, but it looks really intriguing. Can anyone comment on numbers of hunters in Pasayten vs other wilderness areas such as GP or AL? What about deer numbers? I was in GP last year, so that's my only reference point.
A lot of it depends on what area you are talking about specifically and ease of access. I could take you to an area that you could go in the entire high hunt and probably not see another person, not the easiest place to get to but then what do you want seclusion or lots of hunters. Then again there are areas that you'd need a reservation to take a squat behind a tree......
Harts Pass/ Slate Creek area avoid like the plague unless you like tripping over other hunters
Billy Goat Trail head and all the way to 3 fools pass quite a few hunters but all usually scattered out
Andrews Creek all the way back to and including Spanish Camp area Jam Packed Outfitter camp area
Tatoosh Buttes/Cougar lakes/ Hidden Lakes area Outfitter takes camps in via horseback.
Any of the trails up into the wilderness area off the Harts pass road are probably reservation required to park (sarcasm font used)
If you have a specific area in mind drop me a pm and I'll tell you what I know of the area and outfitter use
I am thinking this year I'll be going in for the entire High Hunt time period ( yes the full 10 days) and where I'm headed I doubt I'll be bothered by any other hunters, just gonna take a full day on horseback to get in.
-
Thanks Jingles. Don't have a specific area in mind now, but I'll keep it in mind.
-
Maybe a silly question, but does anyone know why that area is not full of elk? It seems to me that it should be.
-
My guess is they got shoot out early on and nobody over there really wants them back, due to the any elk tag for the few in the area east of there. :dunno:
-
this thread has had some of the nicest pics of all. thank you to all the contributers. I keep looking at the pics and thinking I have been there or whatever the mind does in a situation like that. thank you guys for the awesome pics. if any one has any more to put in they will add to the nostalgia. I would add some pics but don't know how. it is one deal I want to learn how to do for 2015. mike w
-
Me and a buddy hoping to do a 3 day hike in the pasayten over 4th of July weekend if the snow is gone. Never been there and don't know a ton about the,area yet but if anyone has pointers tips etc pm me or post would be greatly appreciated. I'll share any scouting I find as I won't be hunting the area this fall. Thanks. Sorry if I thread jacked.
-
Regarding Elk in the PW. I hunted some areas last year that were great Elk habitat but the Game Dept doesn't want Elk there competing with the Muledeer. I agree with that as the Deer have enough trouble as it is.
You will find some of the best big buck country you have ever seen with no big bucks. Some one in an earlier post said you need to get away from the horse trails. Very , very true. Every basin with a horse trail in it gets pounded all summer and fall with horses and hikers. You need to get as far away from any trail as possible.
-
Maybe a silly question, but does anyone know why that area is not full of elk? It seems to me that it should be.
According to 1st Party phone conversation with WDFW rep in Olympia "the elk compete with the mule deer for food"
However last time I checked Deer are browsers and Elk are grazers so there shouldn't be any real competition. then you get Fitkin saying that there are to many orchards in the Valley, so hence they have a pretty good season here for what elk are here usually 14 days any elk to make sure any that might be here get hunted pretty hard.
-
Someone asked for a couple more photos so thought I'd accommodate just excuse the flip phone photo quality
Yes I spend a LOT of time back there and this year will be spending even more time as I get lots of saddle time and horse training in prep for a 3 month 2200 mile cross country horse trip
Between the Paysayten and the Lake Chelan Sawtooth IMO they are some of the most beautiful areas a person could visit
-
Great pics!
-
Scenery from some of my hikes in...
It's not all 'about the hunt'. Hiking in the summer is different than the fall. Being there during a storm.. That's an experience. Remember that in any alpine area the weather can change at a moments notice. Some say that the Pasayten creates it's own weather. Believe it! Go prepared.
-Steve
-
JackofAllTrades
Nice pics some folks just do not know what they are missing by just going back there and enjoying the surroundings
-
Maybe a silly question, but does anyone know why that area is not full of elk? It seems to me that it should be.
They don't want them there.
-
I scouted in there quite a bit in 2013. Saw some great bucks before season. Hiked in over ten miles for season and got totally corked by the 20+ horseback buffoons that wandered all over the area for the first two days. All the Bucks went to heavy cover but we did end up getting two out of four tags filled. I hiked about 20 miles one day and it definitely seemed the higher and farther I traveled in the less deer sign there was. Gorgeous country and I want to head back in this summer.
Should be able to access by early June this year I would imagine if the weather continues. I went in in late June and had knee deep snow back a couple miles and up on top.
-
Paseyten 2014
-
More pics. Just because it's so beautiful up there.
-
More pics please
-
just like mule deer struggling in CO with all the elk in there range :rolleyes:
-
Beautiful. Looks like it (should) be loaded with elk. Hope to make it in there sometime.
-
WALTAlpine
Curiosity has the better of me and I have got to ask are those pictures over towards Windy pass the last one looks like it is windy basin
-
You guys need to take pictures of the ugly parts so no one will want to go in there :chuckle:
Great photos everyone. Keepem' coming.
-
Jackofalltrades, was that last lake photo of Fawn Lake?
-
WALTAlpine
Curiosity has the better of me and I have got to ask are those pictures over towards Windy pass the last one looks like it is windy basin
Not that I know of. I don't know of a windy pass in the paseyten.
-
WALTAlpine
Curiosity has the better of me and I have got to ask are those pictures over towards Windy pass the last one looks like it is windy basin
Not that I know of. I don't know of a windy pass in the paseyten.
I thought it looked like Windy Pass as well. Windy Pass is on the Iron Gate trail.
-
Scenery from some of my hikes in...
It's not all 'about the hunt'. Hiking in the summer is different than the fall. Being there during a storm.. That's an experience. Remember that in any alpine area the weather can change at a moments notice. Some say that the Pasayten creates it's own weather. Believe it! Go prepared.
-Steve
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=170416.0;attach=343128;image)
I thought that pond looked familiar! ;)
September 2004
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8577/16037712854_2c27b4e538_c.jpg)
-
When I hunted in 2013 the weather swung from upwards of 70 to below freezing overnight. Had bluebird days and then rain with 40 knot winds and then 6" of snow then back to bluebird and 60+. A lot of weather to plan for.
-
WALTAlpine
Curiosity has the better of me and I have got to ask are those pictures over towards Windy pass the last one looks like it is windy basin
Not that I know of. I don't know of a windy pass in the paseyten.
Well the Windy Pass I am thinking about is out of Harts Pass, on what is locally referred to as the West Fork Trail. You travel out through Oregon pass and Oregon basin to Windy Pass and Windy Basin You then go by Tamarack Peak and then the Devils Back Bone to Holman Peak and Holman Creek, which is kind of a junction for the West Fork and the Middle fork trails.
-
The pictures are taken from devils park between crater mountain and jakita ridge.
Grueling hike in. No animals so i haven't been back. Some of the most beautiful alpine territory. The pis are from a phone. They don't show the color or perspective at all.
-
WALTAlpine
Curiosity has the better of me and I have got to ask are those pictures over towards Windy pass the last one looks like it is windy basin
Not that I know of. I don't know of a windy pass in the paseyten.
Well the Windy Pass I am thinking about is out of Harts Pass, on what is locally referred to as the West Fork Trail. You travel out through Oregon pass and Oregon basin to Windy Pass and Windy Basin You then go by Tamarack Peak and then the Devils Back Bone to Holman Peak and Holman Creek, which is kind of a junction for the West Fork and the Middle fork trails.
You are right, it was Sunny Pass I was thinking of and the Windy Trail is right there.
-
Here's your GPS coordinates I would hunt if I had a young group of guys to hunt with.
Never been there but always have thought it would have some nice bucks, go check it out and let us all know how you do. :hello:
48.823203, -120.245500
I looked up those coordinates and they took me to the Ephrata Wal-Mart parking lot...
-
Jackofalltrades, was that last lake photo of Fawn Lake?
Sooperfly knows that that pond is not Fawn Lake.
-Steve
-
Jackofalltrades, was that last lake photo of Fawn Lake?
Sooperfly knows that that pond is not Fawn Lake.
-Steve
Ya, I looked at my pictures of Fawn and can see it's different. There are so many lakes in the Pasayten where burnt trees line the shores. It also looks like it could be taken close to the south end of Black Lake looking south.
-
Scenery from some of my hikes in...
It's not all 'about the hunt'. Hiking in the summer is different than the fall. Being there during a storm.. That's an experience. Remember that in any alpine area the weather can change at a moments notice. Some say that the Pasayten creates it's own weather. Believe it! Go prepared.
-Steve
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=170416.0;attach=343128;image)
I thought that pond looked familiar! ;)
September 2004
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8577/16037712854_2c27b4e538_c.jpg)
I know that area very well, been hiking and hunting in there for years. A very special place. My wife and I watched a herd of elk put on a great show in that pond/meadow.
-
I've done this hunt a handful of times. It is one that I look forward to every year. Work prevents me from going on occasion. The part about this hunt I really like, besides how beautiful it is, is that there are endless possibilities on where to hunt. Every year I spend hours planning on exploring/hunting a new area. I was told that if you look at this hunt as a fun camping/hiking trip with the possibility of shooting a decent buck then you will never be disappointed. So far that has been my experience. Some years I get a buck. Some years I don't but I always have a great time.
As you can see by the pictures it is a beautiful place. As far as where to hunt your going to have to spend some time researching/planning and hunting it. My first year there I put on 43 miles in three days and was lucky enough to find a nice 3 point. Be prepared to hike a lot. Bring good glass. Clothes for all kinds of weather. And don't get discouraged by how many people you see at the trail head. It's a big area and still lots of places to hunt where I didn't see anyone. Good luck
-
Saw this guy last year. He got the better half of the stalk!
-
It was taken at almost 2000 yards with the phone scope
-
That's a dandy for sure
-
I absolutely love hunting the pasayten wilderness. it is some rough country but man oh man is there some gorgeous areas up there.
-
Just got back from 4 days, 3 nights backpack hunting the pasayten for the hunt buck hunt, also looking for bear. I entered via buckskin ridge at harts pass and only went in to the silver lake area about 4 miles, saw alot of orange, no deer/bear yet it was a blast, beautiful country! totally worth the trip....
next I traveled east to buck lake to hunt with my bow, tons of deer including 4 dead ones at camp yet none mine!
Bamm
i'll post pictures later
-
Finally a high buck report, look forward to pics.
-
Got back last night, after being gone from home only 24 hours, from a planned 3day backpack hunt. When I got to the trailhead ready to head out, I discovered my camelback bladder had leaked about a liter of water out during the car ride up. Seemed my sleeping bag soaked up about 90% of that water and needless to say, it was soaked through and unusable. I ended up hiking in for the day, hoping to get lucky, and came home last night, after seeing three deer, all doe. Talk about a bummer of a trip. Oh well, the high buck hunt will have to wait until next year.... :(
-
Got back last night, after being gone from home only 24 hours, from a planned 3day backpack hunt. When I got to the trailhead ready to head out, I discovered my camelback bladder had leaked about a liter of water out during the car ride up. Seemed my sleeping bag soaked up about 90% of that water and needless to say, it was soaked through and unusable. I ended up hiking in for the day, hoping to get lucky, and came home last night, after seeing three deer, all doe. Talk about a bummer of a trip. Oh well, the high buck hunt will have to wait until next year.... :(
One reason I carry my sleeping bag in a Sea to Summit Ultra-Sil Dry Sack. Bummer.
-
Got back last night, after being gone from home only 24 hours, from a planned 3day backpack hunt. When I got to the trailhead ready to head out, I discovered my camelback bladder had leaked about a liter of water out during the car ride up. Seemed my sleeping bag soaked up about 90% of that water and needless to say, it was soaked through and unusable. I ended up hiking in for the day, hoping to get lucky, and came home last night, after seeing three deer, all doe. Talk about a bummer of a trip. Oh well, the high buck hunt will have to wait until next year.... :(
One reason I carry my sleeping bag in a Sea to Summit Ultra-Sil Dry Sack. Bummer.
Live and learn is all I can say at this point. Now I get to watch some football though anyway. Yea, I'd rather be out on the hunt.. ugh...
-
Got back last night, after being gone from home only 24 hours, from a planned 3day backpack hunt. When I got to the trailhead ready to head out, I discovered my camelback bladder had leaked about a liter of water out during the car ride up. Seemed my sleeping bag soaked up about 90% of that water and needless to say, it was soaked through and unusable. I ended up hiking in for the day, hoping to get lucky, and came home last night, after seeing three deer, all doe. Talk about a bummer of a trip. Oh well, the high buck hunt will have to wait until next year.... :(
One reason I carry my sleeping bag in a Sea to Summit Ultra-Sil Dry Sack. Bummer.
Live and learn is all I can say at this point. Now I get to watch some football though anyway. Yea, I'd rather be out on the hunt.. ugh...
Two mistakes. Camelback bladders suck. But your biggest is that you didn't have your sleeping bag in a sea to summit like mentioned above. I use the sea to summit event dri bags. Get a Platy...
-
I went completely away from bladders. They're sure handy but I've had about every brand leak and I just chose not to take chances. Sucks to have wet everything.
-
Screw the bladder. Waste of weight. Sea to summit is survival gear. Must have if going hardcore survival. IMO
-
Got back last night, after being gone from home only 24 hours, from a planned 3day backpack hunt. When I got to the trailhead ready to head out, I discovered my camelback bladder had leaked about a liter of water out during the car ride up. Seemed my sleeping bag soaked up about 90% of that water and needless to say, it was soaked through and unusable. I ended up hiking in for the day, hoping to get lucky, and came home last night, after seeing three deer, all doe. Talk about a bummer of a trip. Oh well, the high buck hunt will have to wait until next year.... :(
Hmmm sounds like the same story some Dude told me that I met on the trail yesterday. Ha Ha. Seriously I gave them bags up a few yrs ago I got tired of worrying about them leaking.
-
No more bladders for me either. I carry 2 Nalgene bottles. If not too far in I have a big plastic collapsible jug I like to fill with water at camp. It allows me to keep 2.5 gallons of water on hand. Folds down flat and weighs very little.
-
No bladders for me! One Nalgene in an outside pocket and sometimes I'll drop a 1/4 ounce and go with a 1liter pop bottle. One or maybe two 2liter plastic bottles collapsed. Very light and more durable than you'd expect. Proven sharps containers! Good trash bag around the sleeper. Doubles as a poncho if you need it.
I'm missing the high hunt this year.. Really missing it! Construction at home and work... :tdown:
-Steve
-
These days I try to carry most of my water in my stomach. I'll drink 100oz or so on the drive, chug a 32 oz gatorade before hitting the trail and only carry a Nalgene full of water in my pack. You have to be confident of your water sources where you are headed.
Also this system is not leak proof. If you drink this much water and are older than 40 you will find it still wants to leak out often.
-
These days I try to carry most of my water in my stomach. I'll drink 100oz or so on the drive, chug a 32 oz gatorade before hitting the trail and only carry a Nalgene full of water in my pack. You have to be confident of your water sources where you are headed.
Also this system is not leak proof. If you drink this much water and are older than 40 you will find it still wants to leak out often.
:chuckle: I don't know that I could hike more than a couple hundred yards before I would have get rid of most of that. That's borderline water poisoning. If I know I have water waiting for me, I run pretty lean with a couple nalgenes worth in my pack.
-
Well for me it is a long drive to the Pesayten...
I don't know if it really works this way medically, but normally if I drink all the water I need for the day in the first few hours of the day it's no different then spreading it out over the day. Unless you are really sweating for a long period of time, even then you go a ways before rehydrating if you pre-hydrated.
-
I have been carrying the same 100oz Camelback for the last 12 years and it still works perfect and has never leaked over hundreds of miles with lome pretty varied loads. I am a firm believer in continuous hydration vs. pre saturation. I have always ended up pissing a lot when hiking in general and when i drink a lot before hand I just piss more. Staying moderately hydrated over a long period is much more beneficial to me. I still throw in a Nalgene for refilling and for mixing flavored drinks.
-
Spent six days hiking around the central Pasayten during the high hunt. Only ran into four hunters the whole time. Two of them on the 21st, hadn't seen a buck but did see one hunter with one down. Didn't see another hunter until I ran into two on the 24th. They had a nice 4x3 just taken that morning. They hadn't seen another hunter. Ran into a group fishing on the 25th and they had talked to a group on their way out that was packed in by an outfitter and their whole group got skunked. The whole six days I didn't hear a shot either. I saw a total of 5 does in six days. Granted, I was just hiking and fishing, but I did bring my 'nocs and glassed just for fun.
-
tag