Post by: FishEKat on February 16, 2015, 09:49:59 PM
Post by: ellensburgpo on February 16, 2015, 10:00:09 PM
Post by: FishEKat on February 17, 2015, 08:30:11 AM
For weight and price, I'm leaning towards the ultra. Is there any major disadvantage toward that? Thx.
Post by: jackelope on February 17, 2015, 08:36:32 AM
I'd also look at the EXO Mountain Gear pack.
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on February 17, 2015, 08:45:53 AM
Post by: johnnyaustin44 on February 17, 2015, 09:05:06 AM
Post by: jackelope on February 17, 2015, 09:29:27 AM
Post by: sirmissalot on February 17, 2015, 09:49:07 AM
I currently have an icon pro frame and 5200 bag for 3-5 day stuff, and a 3000 ultra bag for a day pack, or short multi day trips where I'm trying to go ultra light, but I use the Icon pro frame. Its got thicker, more comfortable straps/pads etc.
I got my girlfriend an ultra 3,000 when they first came out and we are both disappointed with the lack of organization of the pack, but thats what you get with such a lightweight little pack.
This will be the first year using it so we'll see how it goes, so far I'm very happy but I thought the same with my last pack until I packed in 9.9 miles and killed a bear. I'm going to do my best at a review at the end of the season.
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on February 17, 2015, 10:17:41 AM
Post by: HighCountryHunter88 on February 17, 2015, 10:24:22 AM
Post by: jackelope on February 17, 2015, 10:57:48 AM
i have ZERO experience with the icon but i do know someone who broke the top of one of the stays on a backcountry elk trip
Any idea what the circumstances were when it broke?
Post by: rosscrazyelk on February 17, 2015, 12:12:06 PM
I'd like to purchase a new backpack this year. One that is lightweight, but strong enough to haul gear and meat through the backcountry. I've heard someone recommend Kuiu, which looks good to me. It's difficult to send off that amount of money without being able to try it out first. Is that just how it is? Is there anyone near Puyallup willing to let me check out there pack?I went thru this last year But could not find anyone close to look at the pack I wanted.
I ended up just throwing caution in the wind and got lucky. Love my pack.
Good luck in your search
Post by: whacker1 on February 17, 2015, 12:35:08 PM
These are my top two pics and will be purchasing in the next 90 days or so.
Post by: sirmissalot on February 17, 2015, 01:29:29 PM
That said, I own Kuiu and am going to use them exclusively this year. There are a lot of things I really love about them, both in their products and as a company.
Post by: 7mag. on February 17, 2015, 03:06:02 PM
I am back and forth between the Kuiu Icon Pro and the Stone Glacier Sky series.
These are my top two pics and will be purchasing in the next 90 days or so.
Stone Glacier is a much better pack, in my opinion. Their customer service alone would seal the deal for me. Kurt, the owner is a heck of a nice guy, and will do everything he can to make you happy. I have yet to read a bad review about Stone Glacier, but the Kuiu packs get a lot of mixed reviews.
Post by: coachcw on February 17, 2015, 03:52:02 PM
Post by: JBar on February 17, 2015, 03:56:06 PM
Post by: HighCountryHunter88 on February 17, 2015, 04:09:08 PM
i have ZERO experience with the icon but i do know someone who broke the top of one of the stays on a backcountry elk trip
Any idea what the circumstances were when it broke?
i cant remember how it happened i would assume pulling down on the straps?
Post by: highside74 on February 17, 2015, 04:13:36 PM
friend of a friend has this for sale in Nevada. Wouldn't be much to ship.
Post by: 7mag. on February 17, 2015, 04:26:48 PM
Is this enough proof ? Lol
Very nice ram. What are you attempting to prove?
Post by: rosscrazyelk on February 17, 2015, 05:41:09 PM
I am back and forth between the Kuiu Icon Pro and the Stone Glacier Sky series.I love skyy pack Neil.. we could meet at Staceys one day and you could check it out if you have not seen one.
These are my top two pics and will be purchasing in the next 90 days or so.
Post by: coachcw on February 17, 2015, 05:49:13 PM
full pack off sheep in the icon 7200 carbon fiber frame held up just fine 120-3o lbs . the thing I really like is the ability to put meat in the pack or between the pack and your body . the only draw back for me is the size of the 7200 bag as a day pack . I just bungee the top down and keep it tight a 3000 bag would be nice (on my list )Is this enough proof ? Lol
Very nice ram. What are you attempting to prove?
Post by: whacker1 on February 17, 2015, 06:18:29 PM
I am back and forth between the Kuiu Icon Pro and the Stone Glacier Sky series.I love skyy pack Neil.. we could meet at Staceys one day and you could check it out if you have not seen one.
These are my top two pics and will be purchasing in the next 90 days or so.
stuck between the 5100 and their new 6200 archery series. thoughts?
Post by: MtnMuley on February 17, 2015, 08:01:04 PM
Post by: jackelope on February 17, 2015, 08:14:40 PM
Can't believe nobody has mentioned the Kifaru yet in this thread. Still the "best" pack out there in my and many others opinion.
I thought we were talking about $400 packs.
:dunno:
Post by: MtnMuley on February 17, 2015, 08:23:19 PM
Post by: FishEKat on February 17, 2015, 10:06:56 PM
Post by: MtnMuley on February 18, 2015, 06:03:20 AM
Post by: zwickeyman on February 18, 2015, 06:24:38 AM
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on February 18, 2015, 07:25:45 AM
full pack off sheep in the icon 7200 carbon fiber frame held up just fine 120-3o lbs . the thing I really like is the ability to put meat in the pack or between the pack and your body . the only draw back for me is the size of the 7200 bag as a day pack . I just bungee the top down and keep it tight a 3000 bag would be nice (on my list )Is this enough proof ? Lol
Very nice ram. What are you attempting to prove?
I'm thinkin the extra space is worth carrying the 7200 as a day hike pack. 70-100 lbs + my gear is all I can carry safely. But then again I can do multi day high country w it too. My last pack was 120 and has lasted till last year. I think six years of hunting hard. So I would have high expectations for 450. think I'll take your Rams word for it.
Post by: JBar on February 18, 2015, 07:48:45 AM
Post by: dscubame on February 18, 2015, 08:46:11 AM
Check out this write up. Good info.
Post by: jackelope on February 18, 2015, 08:52:26 AM
Trying on a pack is one thing. Loading it up and still saying it is comfortable is another. I suggest if you try on a pack, you load it up if possible and walk around for a bit. :twocents:
I have zero comfort issues with my Icon. I'm routinely hiking with a loaded pack. Right now there's a 35-40 pound bag of rocks in mine. I might look funny walking my 11 pound dog around the neighborhood, but I'm getting at least a little exercise out of it.
I'm fully aware of the frame breaking issues, but as far as comfort goes, mine's great. It's a very personal choice though...kinda like boots.
Post by: jackelope on February 18, 2015, 08:54:33 AM
full pack off sheep in the icon 7200 carbon fiber frame held up just fine 120-3o lbs . the thing I really like is the ability to put meat in the pack or between the pack and your body . the only draw back for me is the size of the 7200 bag as a day pack . I just bungee the top down and keep it tight a 3000 bag would be nice (on my list )Is this enough proof ? Lol
Very nice ram. What are you attempting to prove?
I'm thinkin the extra space is worth carrying the 7200 as a day hike pack. 70-100 lbs + my gear is all I can carry safely. But then again I can do multi day high country w it too. My last pack was 120 and has lasted till last year. I think six years of hunting hard. So I would have high expectations for 450. think I'll take your Rams word for it.
Coach-
Is yours an original Icon or a Pro?
Post by: coachcw on February 18, 2015, 08:59:33 AM
new profull pack off sheep in the icon 7200 carbon fiber frame held up just fine 120-3o lbs . the thing I really like is the ability to put meat in the pack or between the pack and your body . the only draw back for me is the size of the 7200 bag as a day pack . I just bungee the top down and keep it tight a 3000 bag would be nice (on my list )Is this enough proof ? Lol
Very nice ram. What are you attempting to prove?
I'm thinkin the extra space is worth carrying the 7200 as a day hike pack. 70-100 lbs + my gear is all I can carry safely. But then again I can do multi day high country w it too. My last pack was 120 and has lasted till last year. I think six years of hunting hard. So I would have high expectations for 450. think I'll take your Rams word for it.
Coach-
Is yours an original Icon or a Pro?
Post by: rosscrazyelk on February 18, 2015, 10:11:36 AM
I am back and forth between the Kuiu Icon Pro and the Stone Glacier Sky series.I love skyy pack Neil.. we could meet at Staceys one day and you could check it out if you have not seen one.
These are my top two pics and will be purchasing in the next 90 days or so.
stuck between the 5100 and their new 6200 archery series. thoughts?
Have not seen the 6200 I have the 7200.I figure you can't make your pack bigger but you can go smaller with a big pack. .
Post by: FishEKat on February 18, 2015, 10:11:46 PM
http://remotepursuits.com/2014/11/21/purchasing-a-pack-for-backpack-hunting/ (http://remotepursuits.com/2014/11/21/purchasing-a-pack-for-backpack-hunting/)
Check out this write up. Good info.
That's a good write up. It sums up the difficulties of trying to find the perfect pack; considering we all have different bodies. It's good to hear all these companies seem to have good customer service.
Post by: 7mag. on February 18, 2015, 11:00:54 PM
Post by: whacker1 on February 19, 2015, 05:15:29 AM
I am back and forth between the Kuiu Icon Pro and the Stone Glacier Sky series.I love skyy pack Neil.. we could meet at Staceys one day and you could check it out if you have not seen one.
These are my top two pics and will be purchasing in the next 90 days or so.
stuck between the 5100 and their new 6200 archery series. thoughts?
Have not seen the 6200 I have the 7200.I figure you can't make your pack bigger but you can go smaller with a big pack. .
Let me know the next time you are rolling through town and I will make a point of making myself available.
Post by: wooltie on February 19, 2015, 10:25:50 AM
Not disappointed. I routinely walk the kids and dog with 50lb sandbag (in a dry sack) strapped to the frame. Weight carries the same on me. If anything, there is less padding but the support remains the same as the Kif.
Your choice comes down to value versus costs.
I bought the entire kit and four bags during their end of year sale. At 25% off, KUIU costs less than the cost of reselling my Kifaru. And I now I have bags for each type of hunt versus one 5200 bag for everything.
Looking at the duplex frame vs the icon pro frame, one would conclude that the duplex frame just seems more durable because of the sheer materials and construction of the duplex. The duplex frame is a TANK. Solid. However, I think both setups offer the same FUNCTIONAL durability. KUIU just pulls it off with fewer materials and less weight.
Post by: bradslam on February 19, 2015, 12:57:30 PM
Be careful with Kuiu. I don't know this first hand, but I've heard from several different sources, that they only honor the warranty on their current line of packs, not the older ones.
Why not just read their warranty policy.
WARRANTY POLICY:
WHAT WARRANTY COVERS:
This warranty covers any manufacturer workmanship defects in your KUIU gear. This warranty applies to consumer use only and is null and void if the product is used in a manner it is not intended for.
HOW LONG COVERAGE LASTS:
This warranty lasts for the lifetime of the product.
WHO IS COVERED UNDER WARRANTY:
This warranty is for the original consumer purchaser only. It is not transferable. Proof of purchase must be verified.
WHAT WARRANTY DOES NOT COVER:
Any problem that is caused by abuse, misuse, or an act of nature (fire, flood, moths, etc.) is not covered. Snags, stains, pilling, discoloration, deterioration, burns, or damage from normal wear and tear are not covered by this warranty. Consequential and incidental damages are not recoverable under this warranty.
WHAT KUIU WILL DO:
If the item proves to be defective in workmanship, KUIU will attempt to repair the item. If this is not possible we will replace it with a new item of similar composition and price. If no such item is available, a refund for the full purchase price of the original item will be issued at KUIU discretion.
LIMITATION ON DAMAGES AND DURATION OF IMPLIED WARRANTIES:
KUIU will repair or replace the product as provided under this Lifetime Warranty. This shall be the only remedy of the consumer. KUIU shall not be liable for any loss or damages, including consequential, indirect, and incidental damages arising out of the use of, or inability to use, the product, or for breach of any expressed or implied warranty or condition on this product. Except to the extent prohibited by law, any implied warranties or conditions of merchantability and fitness for a particular purpose are limited in duration to the duration of this warranty.
HOW TO PLACE A CLAIM:
Contact KUIU by email at service@kuiu.com, or by phone at 855-367-5848, during normal business hours Monday-Friday from 9:00AM-5:00PM PST. You may be asked to provide photographs and to return the product for review.
California law states that products accepted for review must be clean. Please clean your products before returning them to us, otherwise we will not be able to accept them.
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on February 19, 2015, 01:54:20 PM
Post by: SilkOnTheDrySide on February 19, 2015, 02:05:37 PM
I switched from a Kif DT2 to the Icon PRO. I have 7200, 1850, and Ultra 1800 & 3000 bags.
Not disappointed. I routinely walk the kids and dog with 50lb sandbag (in a dry sack) strapped to the frame. Weight carries the same on me. If anything, there is less padding but the support remains the same as the Kif.
Your choice comes down to value versus costs.
I bought the entire kit and four bags during their end of year sale. At 25% off, KUIU costs less than the cost of reselling my Kifaru. And I now I have bags for each type of hunt versus one 5200 bag for everything.
Looking at the duplex frame vs the icon pro frame, one would conclude that the duplex frame just seems more durable because of the sheer materials and construction of the duplex. The duplex frame is a TANK. Solid. However, I think both setups offer the same FUNCTIONAL durability. KUIU just pulls it off with fewer materials and less weight.
Have you had more then 50 lbs in it?
And for comparison did you ever have more then fifty pounds in the Kif?
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Post by: wooltie on February 20, 2015, 03:03:50 PM
I'll reiterate that Kif is hands down a solid freaking tank.
But I think KUIU can hold its own, and I'll risk "the pack not performing" for having pack options at less cost. Just my preference.
Post by: matt345 on February 20, 2015, 03:44:32 PM
Post by: sirmissalot on February 20, 2015, 04:02:51 PM
The price has gone up everyday I swear. They want 475 for the icon pro 7200 today. might hold off for a sale or used.
If you're looking for a day pack with the possibility of multi day you are way over killing it with the 7200. I've always thought the 1850 was a little small for me for a day pack, that is why I went with the 3,000 ultra with an icon pro frame as my day pack. I'm going to run the 5200 for longer trips. The 3200 might be a perfect pack for you, it wasn't available when I ordered my 3,000 but being the UL guy I've become I'd still sacrifice some organization for a lot less weight.
So far I'm loving the Kuiu. I plan on strapping two dead bear and a wolf to it come end of May, until then its just a hiking pack.
I don't care who you are or what pack you have, 120lbs isn't going to feel good on your back.
Post by: Karl Blanchard on February 20, 2015, 04:14:58 PM
The same can be said for any pack with lots of adjustment. You get a Stone Glacier, Kuiu, Mystery Ranch, Outdoorsmans, Kifaru, etc. and adjust it right so it fits properly, your going to be happy with it. My personal opinion is there isn't a pack out there that can haul like a duplex frame but Kifaru is out of your price range. A MR Metcalf with the extension for the load lifters or an Icon Pro would serve you well for many years :twocents:
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on February 21, 2015, 05:59:30 AM
The price has gone up everyday I swear. They want 475 for the icon pro 7200 today. might hold off for a sale or used.
If you're looking for a day pack with the possibility of multi day you are way over killing it with the 7200. I've always thought the 1850 was a little small for me for a day pack, that is why I went with the 3,000 ultra with an icon pro frame as my day pack. I'm going to run the 5200 for longer trips. The 3200 might be a perfect pack for you, it wasn't available when I ordered my 3,000 but being the UL guy I've become I'd still sacrifice some organization for a lot less weight.
So far I'm loving the Kuiu. I plan on strapping two dead bear and a wolf to it come end of May, until then its just a hiking pack.
I don't care who you are or what pack you have, 120lbs isn't going to feel good on your back.
Yeah I am thinking the 5200 might be enough space. I'm sure I could max my weight with meat in it. A few pieces of updated gear to save space with the 5200 pro me get be the route I go. Thanks for the help guys.
Post by: kentrek on February 21, 2015, 06:36:43 AM
Also I would highly recommend getting the new load sling kuiu came out with..only complaint is how the compression straps go to the far side of the bag...this works great for camping but not so good for packing meat and packing gear
Post by: SilkOnTheDrySide on February 21, 2015, 12:40:30 PM
100 lbs of sand in both. Weight stayed on my hips and off my shoulders. I can't really ask for more than that at 100 lbs.
I'll reiterate that Kif is hands down a solid freaking tank.
But I think KUIU can hold its own, and I'll risk "the pack not performing" for having pack options at less cost. Just my preference.
This was the information I was looking for. It appears they fixed quite a few issues and I was waiting for someone to really load it up.
How does the waist belt compare?
If money weren't an issue, which one would you buy?
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Post by: wooltie on February 24, 2015, 01:05:58 PM
This was the information I was looking for. It appears they fixed quite a few issues and I was waiting for someone to really load it up.
How does the waist belt compare?
If money weren't an issue, which one would you buy?
The Icon Pro kit supported the pack weight in the same manner as the duplex. In other words, I didn't feel like the IP carried the weight differently. However, I felt the IP "fit" on me was more athletic, less bulky....form fitting, I would say. Sometimes the duplex felt like I had a ladder strapped to my back. Compare, for example, the lumbar pad and the waist belt on both packs. The duplex belt is much bigger and bulkier than the IP. Both provide the same level of comfort, but the duplex felt intrusive comparatively.
If $ was no object I'd still buy the KUIU packs for a few reasons:
Fit. I like the more "athletic" fit. Think of a form fitting dress shirt vs the costco specials.
Functionality. I like many bag options. Use the 7200 for the multiple day pack-in, then the 1800/1850 for day hunts from camp.
Weight. The DT2 weighed over 7 lbs. The 1800's weight 3 lbs. And day hunts constituted the majority of my hunts.
oh, and the pivoting hip belt is a nice feature.
Post by: JPhelps on February 24, 2015, 01:33:12 PM
A kifaru duplex frame properly setup will handle weight better and be more comfortable than the other packs (with the multiple stay bends and lumber pads, unless you are an exception).
I will pay more for the durability of the bag, the bulletproof suspension and the Made in the USA tag.
Post by: Karl Blanchard on February 24, 2015, 04:20:20 PM
If money wasn't an issue I would buy the kifaru. If money was an issue I would save some money and get by with an external pack and a dry bag until I could afford the kifaru.:yeah:
A kifaru duplex frame properly setup will handle weight better and be more comfortable than the other packs (with the multiple stay bends and lumber pads, unless you are an exception).
I will pay more for the durability of the bag, the bulletproof suspension and the Made in the USA tag.
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on February 24, 2015, 07:29:17 PM
Post by: dreamingbig on February 24, 2015, 08:45:08 PM
If money wasn't an issue I would buy the kifaru. If money was an issue I would save some money and get by with an external pack and a dry bag until I could afford the kifaru.
A kifaru duplex frame properly setup will handle weight better and be more comfortable than the other packs (with the multiple stay bends and lumber pads, unless you are an exception).
I will pay more for the durability of the bag, the bulletproof suspension and the Made in the USA tag.
Yep. I started with a duplex frame and cargo panel in foliage. Why? Because it was the cheapest option and was under $500. That was four years ago and now I have two frames and two separate packs.
The gear has great resale value and I haven't heard a duplex frame breaking yet. I would buy the new exo over the kuiu anyday.
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Post by: hogslayer on February 24, 2015, 09:02:02 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on February 24, 2015, 09:17:49 PM
Podcast with Aron Snyder. Good discussion with a guy who most respect for an unbiased opinion, even though he now works for Kifaru.
Post by: Magnum_Willys on February 24, 2015, 09:18:08 PM
The 1800's weight 3 lbs. And day hunts constituted the majority of my hunts.
I like the Ultra 3000 as 90% of the time its a daypack and a great one at under 3#. Packed great for me ( 80# max) but my body likes the biggest waist belt you can find and I found the Ultra's waistbelt wasn't as thick as I would like. The Icon's would be better. I've seen buddy's bulletproof packs like the eberlestock at 9-10# and cringe.
Post by: kentrek on February 24, 2015, 11:22:38 PM
Gritty Bowmen Podcast: Why Do Kifaru Backpacks Cost So Freakin' Much! Aron Snyder - EPISODE 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGQ5GcHQGeA#ws)
Podcast with Aron Snyder. Good discussion with a guy who most respect for an unbiased opinion, even though he now works for Kifaru.
That's a good video, since getting my ultra in july Ive prolly used my pack 70ish days...the 5 bulls I got to pack out this fall, only one pack lasted two days (thank god) so out of the 70ish I spent 6 days packing...and for me, i really like the balance of normal pack duties vs load hauling..and if it was going to break it would have broke :chuckle:
everyone Is going to prefer a different ratio between normal pack duties & load hauling..just like people and boots as was demonstrated in the video..if I was packing 100 pound loads for 100 days out of the year I may be alil more interested in a heavily padded load hauler
I bet 30 of my days spent with this pack have not even been with the hip belt on...which is super nice Times
Look at how youl be using the pack...if you think you can justify the cost, weight, and more narrowly intented use then go for the Kifaru..I know so far I haven't been able to
youl more than likely be happy with either choice :tup:
Post by: SilkOnTheDrySide on February 25, 2015, 06:26:48 AM
Gritty Bowmen Podcast: Why Do Kifaru Backpacks Cost So Freakin' Much! Aron Snyder - EPISODE 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGQ5GcHQGeA#ws)
Podcast with Aron Snyder. Good discussion with a guy who most respect for an unbiased opinion, even though he now works for Kifaru.
That's a good video, since getting my ultra in july Ive prolly used my pack 70ish days...the 5 bulls I got to pack out this fall, only one pack lasted two days (thank god) so out of the 70ish I spent 6 days packing...and for me, i really like the balance of normal pack duties vs load hauling..and if it was going to break it would have broke :chuckle:
everyone Is going to prefer a different ratio between normal pack duties & load hauling..just like people and boots as was demonstrated in the video..if I was packing 100 pound loads for 100 days out of the year I may be alil more interested in a heavily padded load hauler
I bet 30 of my days spent with this pack have not even been with the hip belt on...which is super nice Times
Look at how youl be using the pack...if you think you can justify the cost, weight, and more narrowly intented use then go for the Kifaru..I know so far I haven't been able to
youl more than likely be happy with either choice :tup:
I don't disagree with your logic that you should buy a product suited to your hunting style. IMO, you don't need a Kifaru if you aren't backpack hunting.
But I would like to touch on a point that's been brought up a few times, and most recently in your post.
The Kifaru is not a "niche" pack. I run a Bikini frame with the EMR2 (8500 Cui), and can get it compressed down to basically nothing.
I understand the point where the duplex may feel more like a board on your back, but my point is that you can have the best of both worlds. A very comfortable pack, that is compressible down to nothing, while giving you top industry standard in load hauling abilities, which is why I went with the bikini.
FillTheFreezer (who owns both a bikini and a duplex) liked to describe it as the bikini can do 95% of what the duplex can, but is exponentially more comfortable in the 70lbs and less club.
Is it season yet?
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Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on February 25, 2015, 10:26:54 AM
Post by: JPhelps on February 25, 2015, 11:02:50 AM
Think of Kifaru external frame packs as a modular system:
Pick your frame:
Duplex
Bikini
Pick your stays:
Composite curved
Composite curved
Aluminum (can be custom bent for unique back)
Pick your bag:
EMR
AMR
DT1
DT2
Mountain warrior
Mountain rambler
High camp
Etc....
Pick your accessories:
Pockets
Water bottle holsters
Grab it
Etc...
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on February 25, 2015, 11:14:20 AM
Post by: SilkOnTheDrySide on February 25, 2015, 11:23:33 AM
Just don't be confused with the Timberline (internal frame complete pack) versus the Duplex Tumberline (bag only attaches to separate external frame.
In that CUi, the DT2 with a bikini frame is nice, though the AMR has a lot of nice features as well.
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Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on February 25, 2015, 11:58:41 AM
Post by: JPhelps on February 25, 2015, 12:40:43 PM
I've used the bikini frame the last two years and it has hauled some mega loads but I'm climbing back out of the rabbit hole known as the pursuit of ultra lightweight gear.
I sold my bikini frame and ordered a duplex frame with a new AMR bag. The weight handling ability of the duplex is worth the small upfront weight penalty.
Post by: dreamingbig on February 25, 2015, 03:18:29 PM
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Post by: 7mag. on February 25, 2015, 06:47:37 PM
Post by: longwalker on February 25, 2015, 07:15:12 PM
Can the DT2 attach to the bikini frame? Or is the word duplex in the title mean it's specific to that external frame? What set up do you suggest from kifaru in around 5200? Do you prefer the bikini or the duplex ? And have you ever tried the internal frame like the timberline 1 or 2? Thanks phelps.
I've been running a T1 since they first came out. Think mine is number 80 something made. I've packed half a bull elk (boned out) in one trip with that pack not to mention countless other loads. I prefer the simplicity of the standard tom erlines myself. They will haul every big as much weight as the external frames ( duplex/bikini) and you can probably pick one up used for a third the price
Post by: FishEKat on March 01, 2015, 12:07:50 AM
Post by: longwalker on March 01, 2015, 07:20:51 AM
http://www.rokslide.com/forums/showthread.php?27103-Kifaru-Timberline-2-Great-Deal-475-TYD&p=317316#post317316 (http://www.rokslide.com/forums/showthread.php?27103-Kifaru-Timberline-2-Great-Deal-475-TYD&p=317316#post317316)
i would be happy to let you check out my kifaru. i am however in the middle of moving so the next week or so im going to have zero free time. if your still shopping by mid march send me a PM and i could meet you around here somewhere. im in orting
Post by: SilkOnTheDrySide on March 01, 2015, 07:22:02 AM
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Post by: 7mag. on March 01, 2015, 11:53:50 AM
Send a message to fillthefreezer. He has a bikini frame, duplex frame, and two of their bags and lives close. I'm sure he would meet up and show you there stuff.
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I have a bikini frame and an AMR bag that you could check out as well. I live in Buckley. I also have a Mystery Ranch internal frame pack you can check out.