Post by: seansfire on February 19, 2015, 08:10:41 AM
Post by: Special T on February 19, 2015, 08:15:34 AM
Post by: BNAElkhntr on February 19, 2015, 08:22:00 AM
From other discussions ive read on here you need your rights to be reinstated and likley need an attorney. Id put the guns in some one elses safe and go talk to an attorney. :twocents::yeah:
Post by: bearpaw on February 19, 2015, 08:43:37 AM
Post by: HighlandLofts on February 19, 2015, 08:51:17 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on February 19, 2015, 08:59:14 AM
Post by: MP123 on February 19, 2015, 09:01:46 AM
Post by: Man Tracker on February 19, 2015, 09:04:41 AM
Post by: h20hunter on February 19, 2015, 09:08:50 AM
They know now. I wouldn't have posted this on a public forum. Good luck. :dunno:
I don't know if "they" know now or not, but I'd agree, don't post this on a public forum. IF you are wrong, and I think you may be regarding the legality of you currently in possesion, then you are exposing yourself as currently breaking the law. I'd contact a lawyer but not until you delete your post.
Post by: bigtex on February 19, 2015, 09:25:28 AM
I had a felony out of the state of california that i had expunged a few years back and now have a couple guns and have had a couple people say i am legal to have them and others who say i am not. Anyone know for sure on here ? Lookin for cops or someone who really knows.I would definitely consult a lawyer, especially since it involves out of state charges. The best thing to do is to actually get firearm rights restored, in some states getting the conviction expunged does that, in others it doesn't.
Post by: follow maggie on February 19, 2015, 01:24:21 PM
Post by: huntnphool on February 19, 2015, 01:38:56 PM
Post by: popeshawnpaul on February 19, 2015, 04:31:54 PM
Post by: ghosthunter on February 19, 2015, 05:06:33 PM
You more than likely admitted to a crime publicly. CA law and what you did there with respect to expungment will dictate. If you had an attorney for the expungment, I'd call them first as they will know their jurisdiction best.Most police officers have no clue about gun laws. Go to an attorney.
Post by: Brad Harshman on February 19, 2015, 06:15:19 PM
Post by: Firedogg on February 19, 2015, 07:34:41 PM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on February 19, 2015, 07:54:48 PM
maybe bigtex will reply
bigtex isn't a lawyer
Post by: Hunterman on February 19, 2015, 07:59:43 PM
Hunterman(Tony)
Post by: HntnFsh on February 19, 2015, 08:25:14 PM
If you bought your guns from a store, then I wouldn't worry about it.
Hunterman(Tony)
Good point!
Post by: jackelope on February 19, 2015, 09:35:52 PM
Post by: huntnphool on February 19, 2015, 09:42:49 PM
You more than likely admitted to a crime publicly. CA law and what you did there with respect to expungment will dictate. If you had an attorney for the expungment, I'd call them first as they will know their jurisdiction best.Most police officers have no clue about gun laws. Go to an attorney.
Pope isn't a police officer, he is a attorney. ;)
Post by: Special T on February 19, 2015, 09:43:48 PM
Who is Seansfire? This forum provides anonymity. You're probably not going to get in trouble for posting what you did, but you should seek legal advice immediately. Because of I-594 you can't loan/stash your firearms either, correct? :dunno:You could put them in your parents, or brother/sisters safe for "safe keeping" till you sort things out.
Post by: csaaphill on February 19, 2015, 09:46:39 PM
I had a felony out of the state of california that i had expunged a few years back and now have a couple guns and have had a couple people say i am legal to have them and others who say i am not. Anyone know for sure on here ? Lookin for cops or someone who really knows.Certainly wouldn't hurt to get a lawyers advice. Expungement not sure, I think since an Expungement is kind of like it never happened, almost like a pardon, but never know. I know, and depending on which state it was from you should be legal there although Kalifornia who knows :chuckle:. Look on the net by state and see what they do as for honoring such things. As just a personal opinon, but do know something on these I'd say ya your ok, but still.
try this site on for size
http://www.recordgone.com/restoration_gun_rights.htm (http://www.recordgone.com/restoration_gun_rights.htm)
Post by: csaaphill on February 19, 2015, 09:51:06 PM
If you bought your guns from a store, then I wouldn't worry about it.ya never thought of that if he passed a nics test then he should be ok!
Hunterman(Tony)
Post by: Sliverslinger on February 19, 2015, 09:53:34 PM
I don't know your specific situation, but also keep in mind that even having your record sealed does not reinstate your gun rights - in fact in can make it even more of a pain to get them reinstated since the cause # will be sealed. Washington now has a new statute relate to the administrative sealing of juvenile cases and I'm convinced they didn't think that one through, but that's a whole different rabbit trail.
I suggest you contact an attorney to go over the specifics of your situation.
Post by: Sliverslinger on February 19, 2015, 09:59:38 PM
Who is Seansfire? This forum provides anonymity. You're probably not going to get in trouble for posting what you did, but you should seek legal advice immediately. Because of I-594 you can't loan/stash your firearms either, correct? :dunno:
If you think that this forum provides anonymity in the event of criminal investigations I've got some property for sale I think you would be interested in.
Post by: Brad Harshman on February 19, 2015, 10:50:00 PM
How can the Gov't know who is who when we're allowed to use fake names? Sure they can probably trace IP addresses and if you wanted you could use a public computer or open WiFi to skirt that. Hell I'm typing this via my mobile phone. Can they trace this? I don't know and don't care. I'm full blown law abiding with nothing to hide. That's why I used my real name when I signed up. You don't find me trolling around being Mr. Negative, insulting others, or reducing the integrity of this forum. But Silverslinger - you quickly jumped out and insulted my intelligence. You did provide quality feedback to the OP which is what this forum is about, but why the sny remark? Is it because your identity is hidden? Anonymity is killing online social spheres, let's not degrade this forum please.Who is Seansfire? This forum provides anonymity. You're probably not going to get in trouble for posting what you did, but you should seek legal advice immediately. Because of I-594 you can't loan/stash your firearms either, correct? :dunno:
If you think that this forum provides anonymity in the event of criminal investigations I've got some property for sale I think you would be interested in.
Post by: Special T on February 19, 2015, 10:55:00 PM
When you think about that it should alter they way you say things online.
Post by: Jburke on February 20, 2015, 01:53:32 AM
Post by: Becky on February 20, 2015, 07:53:30 AM
Silverslinger is right, that's how it works for WA crimes anyways. Having your record expunged does not restore your rights, you have to make action to get them restored.
Jackelope - they switched that law a few years back, felons can vote now.
Post by: Bofire on February 20, 2015, 09:03:21 AM
Within 24 hours I got a call from a local law enforcement agency and a Federal agency asking that I have the post deleted. The calls were both to my work phone. I did as they asked.
So, you tell me how they knew my name, ID, work phone???
Carl
Post by: Curly on February 20, 2015, 09:28:58 AM
Post by: Special T on February 20, 2015, 03:47:49 PM
Post by: Curly on February 20, 2015, 03:52:47 PM
Post by: pianoman9701 on February 20, 2015, 03:56:20 PM
Go try to buy a gun in store and see if you pass the background check :chuckle: that'll tell ya.
Silverslinger is right, that's how it works for WA crimes anyways. Having your record expunged does not restore your rights, you have to make action to get them restored.
Jackelope - they switched that law a few years back, felons can vote now.
Do it in King Co. and there's a 75% chance nothing will happen to you anyway! Truth. But, don't do that. :bdid:
Post by: seansfire on February 20, 2015, 05:49:46 PM
Post by: csaaphill on February 20, 2015, 05:54:46 PM
I'ts like haveing someing in Washington then years later getting your rights back then moving out of state you didn't lose them in that new state so you should be good. If you pass a nics in one state you will in the other.
If any doub't PM me and ill help!
Post by: Scvette on February 20, 2015, 06:38:33 PM
Post by: Bofire on February 20, 2015, 06:39:45 PM
this is NOT correct, any felony in any state, or a Domestic violence you lose all gun rights in all states. you better re-research.
Carl
that said I think this guy is fine but should ask a lawyer.
Post by: mountainman on February 20, 2015, 07:03:13 PM
I'm not a lawyer,but I think your fine. When buying a gun,question 11c asks have you ever been convicted of a felony,in that same box it says see exceptions,there it says if your received a pardon,expungment or set aside you can answer NO. If you are sure it was expunged I would think your ok. I had something on my record that was set aside 30yrs ago,I had no problem getting a Wa CPL and a Utah CWP.cpl has nothing to do If you can own or not.
"federal only comes in play if it was a federal charge I know because I've done my reasearch.":yeah:
this is NOT correct, any felony in any state, or a Domestic violence you lose all gun rights in all states. you better re-research.
Carl
that said I think this guy is fine but should ask a lawyer.
Post by: Scvette on February 20, 2015, 07:10:48 PM
I'm not a lawyer,but I think your fine. When buying a gun,question 11c asks have you ever been convicted of a felony,in that same box it says see exceptions,there it says if your received a pardon,expungment or set aside you can answer NO. If you are sure it was expunged I would think your ok. I had something on my record that was set aside 30yrs ago,I had no problem getting a Wa CPL and a Utah CWP.col has nothing to do If you can own or not."federal only comes in play if it was a federal charge I know because I've done my reasearch.":yeah:
this is NOT correct, any felony in any state, or a Domestic violence you lose all gun rights in all states. you better re-research.
Carl
that said I think this guy is fine but should ask a lawyer.
What's col? Here's what I know about it,Wa state says I can have a CPL! FBI and ATF say I can buy a gun. Where's the problem?
Post by: Bean Counter on February 20, 2015, 07:21:52 PM
18 USC 922 had been made into a bunch of :bs: :twocents:
Post by: mountainman on February 20, 2015, 07:23:17 PM
cpl..correction madeI'm not a lawyer,but I think your fine. When buying a gun,question 11c asks have you ever been convicted of a felony,in that same box it says see exceptions,there it says if your received a pardon,expungment or set aside you can answer NO. If you are sure it was expunged I would think your ok. I had something on my record that was set aside 30yrs ago,I had no problem getting a Wa CPL and a Utah CWP.col has nothing to do If you can own or not."federal only comes in play if it was a federal charge I know because I've done my reasearch.":yeah:
this is NOT correct, any felony in any state, or a Domestic violence you lose all gun rights in all states. you better re-research.
Carl
that said I think this guy is fine but should ask a lawyer.
What's col? Here's what I know about it,Wa state says I can have a CPL! FBI and ATF say I can buy a gun. Where's the problem?
Post by: Scvette on February 20, 2015, 07:32:16 PM
cpl..correction madeI'm not a lawyer,but I think your fine. When buying a gun,question 11c asks have you ever been convicted of a felony,in that same box it says see exceptions,there it says if your received a pardon,expungment or set aside you can answer NO. If you are sure it was expunged I would think your ok. I had something on my record that was set aside 30yrs ago,I had no problem getting a Wa CPL and a Utah CWP.col has nothing to do If you can own or not."federal only comes in play if it was a federal charge I know because I've done my reasearch.":yeah:
this is NOT correct, any felony in any state, or a Domestic violence you lose all gun rights in all states. you better re-research.
Carl
that said I think this guy is fine but should ask a lawyer.
What's col? Here's what I know about it,Wa state says I can have a CPL! FBI and ATF say I can buy a gun. Where's the problem?
Why wouldn't a CPL have anything to do with it. When you apply for a CPL they ask if you've been convicted,if you lie on that you do get a visit from a deputy and probably hauled off. They do a NICS check before issue. If your a felon you can't possess or own a gun in Wa. If the OP is sure he has a expungment I'm sure he's fine,Wa state has no way to find out. I think the only thing the guy or myself can never do is become a LEO.
Post by: mountainman on February 20, 2015, 07:38:09 PM
Post by: Sliverslinger on February 20, 2015, 08:14:11 PM
How can the Gov't know who is who when we're allowed to use fake names? Sure they can probably trace IP addresses and if you wanted you could use a public computer or open WiFi to skirt that. Hell I'm typing this via my mobile phone. Can they trace this? I don't know and don't care. I'm full blown law abiding with nothing to hide. That's why I used my real name when I signed up. You don't find me trolling around being Mr. Negative, insulting others, or reducing the integrity of this forum. But Silverslinger - you quickly jumped out and insulted my intelligence. You did provide quality feedback to the OP which is what this forum is about, but why the sny remark? Is it because your identity is hidden? Anonymity is killing online social spheres, let's not degrade this forum please.Who is Seansfire? This forum provides anonymity. You're probably not going to get in trouble for posting what you did, but you should seek legal advice immediately. Because of I-594 you can't loan/stash your firearms either, correct? :dunno:
If you think that this forum provides anonymity in the event of criminal investigations I've got some property for sale I think you would be interested in.
How can the Gov't know who is who when we're allowed to use fake names? There are a number of different ways to do this. This would fall into the realm of relatively simple things that LE ccan determine. Whether LE, hackers, government, or other techie types of people, yours or my inability to understand exactly how they can do it does nothing to impact the fact that they can.
Sure they can probably trace IP addresses and if you wanted you could use a public computer or open WiFi to skirt that. Hell I'm typing this via my mobile phone. Can they trace this? Short answer, with a warrant yes.
I don't know and don't care. I'm full blown law abiding with nothing to hide. That's why I used my real name when I signed up. I do know and am also unconcerned. That is great that you're law abiding, We have something in common then on both fronts. I'm also not concerned because I am also law abiding. However, my being concerned or not being concerned with whether or not LE can determine my identity has little bearing on their ability to do so.
You don't find me trolling around being Mr. Negative, insulting others, or reducing the integrity of this forum. But Silverslinger - you quickly jumped out and insulted my intelligence. I genuinely don't feel as though I was trolling or being "Mr. negative." I was also not reducing the integrity of the forum. In fact, I would respectfully argue that spreading blatantly and obviously false information such as "This forum provides anonymity" does more to erode the integrity/accuracy of this forum than my calling BS on it. It has nothing to do with intelligence. You could have an astronomical IQ for all I know, but what you posted couldn't be further from the truth. I don't mean that to be disrespectful, I mean it to be honest because it is the truth.
You did provide quality feedback to the OP which is what this forum is about, but why the sny remark? Is it because your identity is hidden? Anonymity is killing online social spheres, let's not degrade this forum please. It doesn't take much reading of my post history and a little google work to figure out who I am.Anonymity does indeed often negatively impact forums and social media because people can post/repost whatever they want and not have to answer for the accuracy of it. Unfortunately, many people fail to do their own research and instead choose to take the word of strangers from forums such as this one. Acting on information that a person didn't realize was false does not absolve them of responsibility for their actions. Ignorance is not bliss when it comes to committing crimes or awareness of laws. That being said, we can all help situations like that be avoided by calling obviously incorrect information what it is... incorrect.
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