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Title: how common are rays/skates while fishing in the semi-northern sound?
Post by: pjb3 on February 23, 2015, 06:00:53 PM: I'l like to hook into a big skate, good eatin'
Not sure if they are even her in good #'s or if its just luck to hit one
Title: Re: how common are rays/skates while fishing in the semi-northern sound?
Post by: Mfowl on February 23, 2015, 06:12:09 PM: When I was a kid we caught a few out of Port Townsend, they were big ones too. We also caught a bunch out of La Push while halibut fishing but they were on the small side. I've never bothered to keep one though, do you fillet them like a halibut?
Title: Re: how common are rays/skates while fishing in the semi-northern sound?
Post by: RadSav on February 23, 2015, 06:16:19 PM: Quote from: Mfowl on February 23, 2015, 06:12:09 PM
I've never bothered to keep one though, do you fillet them like a halibut?

Similar. First you need to de-slim the ugly buggars :yike: They fillet similar to halibut, but the meat is in strings instead of flakes. Very odd the first time you see it. However, it is very tasty!!
Title: Re: how common are rays/skates while fishing in the semi-northern sound?
Post by: fishnfur on February 23, 2015, 10:05:09 PM: I fished off Fort Casey/Keystone ferry landing area for 3 years. Never even heard of one. Grew up in Tacoma on the water. Same story.

Saw tons of them in So. Cal.
Title: Re: how common are rays/skates while fishing in the semi-northern sound?
Post by: sled on February 23, 2015, 10:22:31 PM: Saw a guy catch one off kayak pt when I was a kid. The thing was huge! Of course everything is bigger when your a kid.
I'll never forget that thing.
Title: Re: how common are rays/skates while fishing in the semi-northern sound?
Post by: 4fletch on February 23, 2015, 10:37:43 PM: Caught a few in yrs of fishing at pillar point for halibut
Title: Re: how common are rays/skates while fishing in the semi-northern sound?
Post by: Alchase on February 24, 2015, 10:58:41 AM: We use to catch skate off Illahee dock in Bremerton. Most were in the 30-40 lb range occasionally one would be 70lb. If you have eaten scallops at any of the small seafood places from Hood Canal to Long Beach, there is a good chance you had skate not scallops (now illegal) was very popular up through the 80s.
Cut the wings off and use a cookie cutter, wallah giant scallops, LOL
Title: Re: how common are rays/skates while fishing in the semi-northern sound?
Post by: wildmanoutdoors on February 24, 2015, 12:02:32 PM: We always caught them off the Port Orchard marina too! As well the Hood Canal bridge.
Title: Re: how common are rays/skates while fishing in the semi-northern sound?
Post by: Big10gauge on February 24, 2015, 12:09:19 PM: I caught one in Shilshoe bay. 34 lbs. Some resturant tried to buy it off me. I believe it was Anthonys but I'm not sure.
Title: Re: how common are rays/skates while fishing in the semi-northern sound?
Post by: jamesfromseattle on February 24, 2015, 12:13:15 PM: My Dad and uncle caught one many many years ago in the San Juan's (not sure where specifically, though).

They caught it trolling for salmon but I'd imagine most skate encounters are while bottomfishing?
Title: Re: how common are rays/skates while fishing in the semi-northern sound?
Post by: pjb3 on February 24, 2015, 06:38:39 PM: Quote from: Alchase on February 24, 2015, 10:58:41 AM
We use to catch skate off Illahee dock in Bremerton. Most were in the 30-40 lb range occasionally one would be 70lb. If you have eaten scallops at any of the small seafood places from Hood Canal to Long Beach, there is a good chance you had skate not scallops (now illegal) was very popular up through the 80s.
Cut the wings off and use a cookie cutter, wallah giant scallops, LOL

Bingo, thats how "scammers" sell scallops
Title: Re: how common are rays/skates while fishing in the semi-northern sound?
Post by: pjb3 on February 24, 2015, 06:39:44 PM: So can you go for them or are they totally luck thing?
Secrets?
Title: Re: how common are rays/skates while fishing in the semi-northern sound?
Post by: RadSav on February 24, 2015, 08:42:04 PM: Quote from: pjb3 on February 24, 2015, 06:39:44 PM
So can you go for them or are they totally luck thing?
Secrets?

You can target them, but conditions need to be just right and you have to be willing to go through half a ton of smelt while you catch dogs non-stop. Want similar bottom conditions to halibut, sandy bottom amongst gravel or small rock pockets. Then use enough weight that you drag across the bottom with a 3' spreader and 4 to 6' leader to the smelt tied backward as you would for sturgeon. They are not fast so you need to drift extremely slow. Even backing into the drift if need be to keep the drift slow. If the drift is too much to keep your weight on the bottom or there are too many rocks to allow it to slide on the bottom you'll need a lot of luck and perfect timing to get much action. 15 to 20 fathoms and 50-60 fathoms were always our magic depths for skates off the Oregon coast. So drift that day needs to be Extremely slow and you need to keep your thumb on the freespool to keep it down. Very few ever caught if your not in contact with the bottom. You still need a fair amount of luck, but at least this gives you a better chance that most other methods I've ever found.
Title: Re: how common are rays/skates while fishing in the semi-northern sound?
Post by: Mfowl on February 24, 2015, 08:55:10 PM: Quote from: pjb3 on February 24, 2015, 06:39:44 PM
So can you go for them or are they totally luck thing?
Secrets?

In the interior areas I'd try just still fishing bait on the bottom off a pier or anchored up in a protectected area. The ones we caught in Port Townsend were off a pier with shrimp fly rigs and chunks of herring. Never know until you try! :tup:
Title: Re: how common are rays/skates while fishing in the semi-northern sound?
Post by: Alchase on February 25, 2015, 02:16:04 PM: We use to cast out with a 2-3 oz dropper sinker with squid on the hooks.
Herring will work also but does not stay on the hook as well when casting.
Let it sit on the bottom. You know when you have a skate when your line starts to move around slowly without a hit.
They kind of gum it for a moment before they swallow. Then it feels like you are hooked on a barn door because they kind of come in sideways and when they get to the surface they usually dive straight down again.
Title: Re: how common are rays/skates while fishing in the semi-northern sound?
Post by: NRA4LIFE on February 25, 2015, 02:20:58 PM: I hooked one while flounder fishing about 10 years ago just SE of the Naval Station in Everett. I managed to get it to the surface but it then dove straight down and my 6 lb test was not much of a match. I believe I had a chunk of herring on.
Title: Re: how common are rays/skates while fishing in the semi-northern sound?
Post by: fishngamereaper on February 25, 2015, 02:44:17 PM: Generally catch a half dozen a year from PA to Westport. We are targeting halibut and tend to hook at least one once a trip. Be careful though if you target them make sure halibut is open, the 120' rule will get you. Once in a while we get them shallower but mostly they come from 400-500 ft. Only good meat is the wings, like someone else mentioned cookie cutter the meat out and quick fry. IMO they are to much work for the reward. Kind of like cabezon, pacific cod etc...not much meat for the size of fish.
Title: Re: how common are rays/skates while fishing in the semi-northern sound?
Post by: RadSav on February 25, 2015, 04:10:39 PM: Quote from: fishngamereaper on February 25, 2015, 02:44:17 PM
IMO they are to much work for the reward. Kind of like cabezon, ...

I'll save you the work and take every single Cabazon that is too much trouble for you! :chuckle: Best eating fish in the ocean, if you ask me :drool:
Title: Re: how common are rays/skates while fishing in the semi-northern sound?
Post by: pjb3 on February 25, 2015, 04:27:05 PM: Quote from: RadSav on February 25, 2015, 04:10:39 PM
Quote from: fishngamereaper on February 25, 2015, 02:44:17 PM
IMO they are to much work for the reward. Kind of like cabezon, ...

I'll save you the work and take every single Cabazon that is too much trouble for you! :chuckle: Best eating fish in the ocean, if you ask me :drool:

U got that right, LOVE cabs
Title: Re: how common are rays/skates while fishing in the semi-northern sound?
Post by: fishngamereaper on February 25, 2015, 04:31:29 PM: Quote from: RadSav on February 25, 2015, 04:10:39 PM
Quote from: fishngamereaper on February 25, 2015, 02:44:17 PM
IMO they are to much work for the reward. Kind of like cabezon, ...

I'll save you the work and take every single Cabazon that is too much trouble for you! :chuckle: Best eating fish in the ocean, if you ask me :drool:

Ill save them for you, slimmy stinky oversized bull heads :chuckle:
Title: Re: how common are rays/skates while fishing in the semi-northern sound?
Post by: Scvette on February 25, 2015, 05:02:02 PM: Somebody say skate

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That's about a 140lbs caught on the south side of kodiak. I'm commercial cod fishing there right now,catching about 15-20000 pounds of skate a day,can't keep big skate right now,they're high dollar fish too,worth more than cod. I can keep long nose skate though and those are also high dollar. Beautiful day here today.
On a side note if anyone is thinking about a kodiak deer hunt,it's going to be good this year,there's no snow what so ever on the island,deer had an easy winter,and when I say no snow,there's none at all.
Title: Re: how common are rays/skates while fishing in the semi-northern sound?
Post by: RadSav on February 25, 2015, 06:35:53 PM: Quote from: Scvette on February 25, 2015, 05:02:02 PM
Somebody say skate
That's about a 140lbs caught on the south side of kodiak. I'm commercial cod fishing there right now,catching about 15-20000 pounds of skate a day,can't keep big skate right now,they're high dollar fish too,worth more than cod. I can keep long nose skate though and those are also high dollar. Beautiful day here today.
On a side note if anyone is thinking about a kodiak deer hunt,it's going to be good this year,there's no snow what so ever on the island,deer had an easy winter,and when I say no snow,there's none at all.

That is a dandy skate. Makes me hungry :drool:

Maybe I need to make some deer hunting plans. And lose about 50 pounds! Any news on how the deer size and numbers are on Afognak right now? Had heard the numbers were down the past few years.
Title: Re: how common are rays/skates while fishing in the semi-northern sound?
Post by: RELV on February 25, 2015, 07:08:45 PM: I used to catch quite a few a long time ago near Whidbey Island and Hope Island in Dugualla Bay. First time I caught one it scared the heck out of me.