Post by: longstevo on February 25, 2015, 09:10:05 PM
Post by: mountainman on February 25, 2015, 09:28:59 PM
This will be a predictable topic lol :chuckle:
Post by: bobcat on February 25, 2015, 09:29:49 PM
Post by: pcal on February 25, 2015, 09:33:01 PM
Post by: goosegetter79 on February 25, 2015, 09:44:08 PM
Neither of those. The Tikka is light, and the 7 Mag has a good amount of recoil. Too much for a lightweight rifle such as the Tikka, in my opinion. And the Remington 700, I've been hearing of too many issues lately. I'd go with a Savage 110, Ruger 77, or possibly a Weatherby Vanguard.
:yeah: got the savage last year in 7 mag and right out of box with included scope it was shooting 1" groups at just over 100 yards. Was pretty impressed.
Post by: Dan-o on February 25, 2015, 10:14:19 PM
Go for accuracy.
Go for Savage 110. :tup:
Post by: j_h_nimrod on February 25, 2015, 10:21:09 PM
Can't stand Savage or Remington and Bobcat is right about the felt recoil with Tikka. I like them but will rattle your teeth compared to other guns of the same caliber and not necessarily because of the light weight.
Post by: RadSav on February 25, 2015, 10:45:49 PM
Post by: huntnphool on February 25, 2015, 11:14:45 PM
Post by: mountainman on February 26, 2015, 04:49:04 AM
Put a Sims pad on a Tikka and you'll wonder what all the fuss is about. My wife even enjoys shooting it and she hates dang near every 308 I own. Want to reduce recoil even more? Load it up with Barnes 120TTSX and you'll think you are shooting a 7-08.amazing what a limdsaver will do! My first Tikka was a 338 Winchester. I'm not overley timid to recoil like some that need big, blocky brakes on guns, but this one kicked like a horse until I put a Simms on it. /
Post by: matt345 on February 26, 2015, 06:03:22 AM
Post by: Dhoey07 on February 26, 2015, 06:53:06 AM
Post by: fishngamereaper on February 26, 2015, 06:58:22 AM
Post by: Bob33 on February 26, 2015, 07:42:01 AM
That said, no custom rifle makers that I’m aware of uses Tikka actions. Many, if not a majority use 700 actions. With work, a 700 can usually become as or more accurate than any other actioned rifle.
As far as aesthetics go, the Tikkas generally don’t score well - some believe they look and feel cheap. If that bothers you, get a 700 or expand your search to some of the other makes mentioned.
Post by: mountainman on February 26, 2015, 09:41:59 AM
If you’re looking strictly for “out of box” accuracy, I would favor the Tikka T3 between the two you have asked about. An interesting test would be to take ten out-of-box T3s, ten out-of-box 700s and run an accuracy test between them. I believe the Tikkas would have a slight edge. I’ve not known of a Tikka T3 that didn’t shoot well out of the box.would be revealing I bet. There will be guys that have Remingtons that shoot good out of the box, and most do. You never see people putting pics of the bad groups they've shot though...As for aesthetics, beauty is as beauty does.except for Chevy's. No beauty, Lol
That said, no custom rifle makers that I’m aware of uses Tikka actions. Many, if not a majority use 700 actions. With work, a 700 can usually become as or more accurate than any other actioned rifle.
As far as aesthetics go, the Tikkas generally don’t score well - some believe they look and feel cheap. If that bothers you, get a 700 or expand your search to some of the other makes mentioned.
Post by: h2ofowlr on February 26, 2015, 10:05:09 AM
Post by: RailRob on February 26, 2015, 11:00:23 AM
Post by: j_h_nimrod on February 26, 2015, 08:05:56 PM
If you’re looking strictly for “out of box” accuracy, I would favor the Tikka T3 between the two you have asked about. An interesting test would be to take ten out-of-box T3s, ten out-of-box 700s and run an accuracy test between them. I believe the Tikkas would have a slight edge. I’ve not known of a Tikka T3 that didn’t shoot well out of the box.
That said, no custom rifle makers that I’m aware of uses Tikka actions. Many, if not a majority use 700 actions. With work, a 700 can usually become as or more accurate than any other actioned rifle.
As far as aesthetics go, the Tikkas generally don’t score well - some believe they look and feel cheap. If that bothers you, get a 700 or expand your search to some of the other makes mentioned.
It seems that no one talks much about their Remington accuracy anymore, maybe it is just a "given" now and people take it for granted. That being said I have never been impressed with a box Remington, for accuracy they have been on par with all the Rugers I have had and a sloppy second to Winchester or Tikka at the similar price point. A Remington is kind of like a hammer, not much by itself but you can use it to build something. IMO as far as look and feel, most of the base Remingtons (SPS, XCR, CDL, etc.) feel as cheap as any out there. Some would say the reason there are so many aftermarket options for the Remington is because they need them :)
Post by: coachcw on February 26, 2015, 08:35:28 PM
Post by: longwalker on February 26, 2015, 08:40:59 PM
Post by: longwalker on February 26, 2015, 08:47:32 PM
That said, no custom rifle makers that I’m aware of uses Tikka actions. Many, if not a majority use 700 actions. With work, a 700 can usually become as or more accurate than any other actioned rifle.
my buddy has two customs built on tikka actions. i havent shot his 300 yet but the first time i got behind his 6.5 i bulls eyed about a 1 1/2 MOA rock at a 1000. gun smith told him he didn't do anything to the action, because he didn't need to.
Post by: bobcat on February 26, 2015, 08:48:38 PM
Post by: coachcw on February 26, 2015, 08:51:53 PM
Post by: longwalker on February 26, 2015, 09:01:09 PM
Why would recoil be the last thing to consider? That's one of the first things I consider. A rifle that causes you to develop a flinch is worse than a rifle that will only shoot 1-1/2 inch groups at 100 yards.
i dont flinch
Post by: Bob33 on February 26, 2015, 09:06:13 PM
Good to hear. I think they're nice actions.
That said, no custom rifle makers that I’m aware of uses Tikka actions. Many, if not a majority use 700 actions. With work, a 700 can usually become as or more accurate than any other actioned rifle.
my buddy has two customs built on tikka actions. i havent shot his 300 yet but the first time i got behind his 6.5 i bulls eyed about a 1 1/2 MOA rock at a 1000. gun smith told him he didn't do anything to the action, because he didn't need to.
Post by: bobcat on February 26, 2015, 09:06:37 PM
Why would recoil be the last thing to consider? That's one of the first things I consider. A rifle that causes you to develop a flinch is worse than a rifle that will only shoot 1-1/2 inch groups at 100 yards.
i dont flinch
I used to have a pretty bad flinch, many years ago, because my dad gave me a 264 Win. Mag. for my first deer rifle. :o
Post by: longstevo on February 26, 2015, 09:46:38 PM
My buddy on the other hand is getting into hunting a little late in his life. He started at age 26 with some hand me down stuff, to include a rifle, from his father in law. The rifle he's been using is a Model 740 Woodsmaster in 30-06. It's a good thing he's never had to pull the trigger on anything. We went out shooting this last weekend, and between yet ANOTHER jam in his auto loader and having him try my M77, he's giving the Woodsmaster back to his dad in law and is now in the market for a 7mm.
He swung by Fisherman's to get their 2 cents, and the gun counter guy told him to forget about the new 700s because of their unreliability, and handed him the Tikka and the Savage 110. He was taken aback by the lightweight feel of the Tikka, and now he's torn.
He's trading in a Vanguard Weatherby in .300 to go towards whatever 7mm he decides on.
Post by: mountainman on February 26, 2015, 09:50:07 PM
Post by: Bob33 on February 26, 2015, 09:53:06 PM
If he hasn't shot much he may well flinch with a light 7mm Magnum.
Post by: carpsniperg2 on February 26, 2015, 09:55:29 PM
Post by: longstevo on February 26, 2015, 10:16:23 PM
You posted earlier that you don't flinch. What does that have to do with your friend? :dunno:
If he hasn't shot much he may well flinch with a light 7mm Magnum.
I said that I don't flinch? :dunno:
I'm a terrible flincher, but he's even worse.
Don't remember saying that, though.
Post by: Bob33 on February 26, 2015, 10:20:47 PM
My mistake. There was a different "Long..." member that posted that. Sorry.You posted earlier that you don't flinch. What does that have to do with your friend? :dunno:
If he hasn't shot much he may well flinch with a light 7mm Magnum.
I said that I don't flinch? :dunno:
I'm a terrible flincher, but he's even worse.
Don't remember saying that, though.
Post by: longstevo on February 26, 2015, 10:43:58 PM
Post by: j_h_nimrod on February 26, 2015, 10:58:16 PM
Post by: M_ray on February 26, 2015, 11:01:12 PM
Post by: longstevo on February 26, 2015, 11:08:43 PM
Why is he trading in the .300? Either Weatherby or Win Mag are very good choices.
He say the 300 kicks too hard, and that it's "too much gun" for deer. But he liked the way the M77 handled.
Maybe I ought to get him to buy a couple boxes of ammo and give the 300 a re-try. It has been four-five years since we shot it.
Post by: M_ray on February 27, 2015, 01:18:24 AM
Post by: addicted on February 27, 2015, 07:39:48 AM
Post by: thinkingman on February 27, 2015, 09:28:50 AM
Bingo!....and you copied my comment from a few months ago re aftermarket R700 parts....LOTS of demand for those.If you’re looking strictly for “out of box” accuracy, I would favor the Tikka T3 between the two you have asked about. An interesting test would be to take ten out-of-box T3s, ten out-of-box 700s and run an accuracy test between them. I believe the Tikkas would have a slight edge. I’ve not known of a Tikka T3 that didn’t shoot well out of the box.
That said, no custom rifle makers that I’m aware of uses Tikka actions. Many, if not a majority use 700 actions. With work, a 700 can usually become as or more accurate than any other actioned rifle.
As far as aesthetics go, the Tikkas generally don’t score well - some believe they look and feel cheap. If that bothers you, get a 700 or expand your search to some of the other makes mentioned.
It seems that no one talks much about their Remington accuracy anymore, maybe it is just a "given" now and people take it for granted. That being said I have never been impressed with a box Remington, for accuracy they have been on par with all the Rugers I have had and a sloppy second to Winchester or Tikka at the similar price point. A Remington is kind of like a hammer, not much by itself but you can use it to build something. IMO as far as look and feel, most of the base Remingtons (SPS, XCR, CDL, etc.) feel as cheap as any out there. Some would say the reason there are so many aftermarket options for the Remington is because they need them :)
The reason R700 is the platform used for many customs is it was designed to be manufactured as cheaply as possible out of round stock. Anyone with a lathe can claim to be an R700 gunsmith.
No way I would bet $500 clams on whether I get a lemon in a green and yellow box.
I shoot a Tikka 300WSM and after 8 or 10 rounds, I need a few Advil. No question, even with the Limbsaver pad.
That said, it's not a bench gun, it's a hike 4 miles and 4000 ft of vertical every day gun.
Good thing it and the Burris scope don't lose zero, I don't have to fuss with it before every season.
Buy a R700 and Leupold scope if you really want a project...it will keep you busy guessing which one is out of tune.
Post by: Bob33 on February 27, 2015, 09:32:57 AM
That said, it's not a bench gun, it's a hike 4 miles and 4000 ft of vertical every day gun...and pull the trigger once, which is what a hunting rifle should ideally be anyway. :tup:
Post by: mountainman on February 27, 2015, 09:38:46 AM
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Post by: BULLBLASTER on February 27, 2015, 11:57:08 AM
Post by: huntnphool on February 27, 2015, 12:35:24 PM
Anti Tikka crowd is sure quiet :dunno: :chuckle:
I think biggerhammer is on vacation, he would be salivating over this thread if he had seen it. :chuckle:
Post by: mountainman on February 27, 2015, 06:16:14 PM
;)Anti Tikka crowd is sure quiet :dunno: :chuckle:
I think biggerhammer is on vacation, he would be salivating over this thread if he had seen it. :chuckle:
Post by: pianoman9701 on February 27, 2015, 06:20:05 PM
Post by: Biggerhammer on February 27, 2015, 07:01:28 PM
Anti Tikka crowd is sure quiet :dunno: :chuckle:
I think biggerhammer is on vacation, he would be salivating over this thread if he had seen it. :chuckle:
Nope, don't really care what others shoot. Anyone who's been around already knows my opinion. Besides, I enjoyed watching some of the morons poke, prod & run their yaps without getting any attention. It's amusing to say the least.
I was busy though. I would rather be buying/ wheeling & dealing guns for myself. Rather than yapping about someone else's. :tup:
Post by: mountainman on February 27, 2015, 07:19:13 PM
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Post by: Biggerhammer on March 01, 2015, 10:38:48 PM
Post by: RadSav on March 01, 2015, 10:43:21 PM
Remington's ROCK!!! :rockin:
Do you shoot any Remington's with the factory barrels Biggerhammer?
Post by: Biggerhammer on March 01, 2015, 11:08:01 PM
Remington's ROCK!!! :rockin:
Do you shoot any Remington's with the factory barrels Biggerhammer?
Can't even count how many I have shot in 25 plus years with factory barrels. Then again, I don't shoot factory Ammuntion. I have handloaded for them all, in all those years with all those rifles. I have had two problem child Remington's that no matter what I tried load wise would not shoot under 2 MOA. One was a model seven in .300 SAUM and the other a .300 Ultra Magnum in a SPS.
Then there are those I own or have owned with... Douglas, Shaw, Krieger, brux, Schneider, hart, Rock, Benchmark, Pac-Nor, Obermeyer, Blackhole barrels etc. That will all shoot superbly well with a little handload work. Most being wildcats of one flavor or another.
I've owned some beat up Remington 788's that were spooky accurate.
Post by: RadSav on March 02, 2015, 12:31:47 AM
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