Post by: PiNkPaNtHeR on February 27, 2015, 08:50:19 AM
Post by: jackelope on February 27, 2015, 08:58:52 AM
I've been doing a little research & trying to figure out what the real numbers are. It seems that the number of coyotes is increasing - even to the point of people seeing coyotes in the cities. Anyone know what the real numbers are? Is there really an increase? If so, why?
People have been seeing coyotes in cities for a really, really long time.
Post by: PolarBear on February 27, 2015, 09:01:17 AM
Post by: Special T on February 27, 2015, 09:08:23 AM
Post by: boblmc on February 27, 2015, 09:11:06 AM
Post by: PiNkPaNtHeR on February 27, 2015, 09:13:43 AM
Post by: jackelope on February 27, 2015, 09:25:04 AM
Maybe increased food supply? Garbage or rodents?
All of the above.
Not sure you'd ever find a source with the "real numbers" on coyotes.
I find it hilarious that on the Duvall, WA Facebook page, people get alarmed and post warnings to all the residents when someone sees a coyote. In Duvall. In the country. In dairy farm central. Mind boggling to me that people don't realize that they live in the country where stuff like that happens. It's only sort of out in the country relatively speaking.
Post by: 257 Wby Mag on February 27, 2015, 09:34:55 AM
Post by: PiNkPaNtHeR on February 27, 2015, 09:35:34 AM
Here in Roy/McKenna/Yelm I think people pretty much expect it. I've noticed a lot of small brown rabbits around the past couple of years and it's fairly common to hear a couple dozen yotes making noises at night & getting the dogs riled up. I know we have skunks, possum, raccoon, rats & mice around because I've seen them. Also found bear scat a couple of times within a hundred yards of the house. Lots of coyotes around this area - just trying to figure out why. Also - if they are feeding on rodents due to the increase in garbage/rats and not deer, what will happen to the rodent population if I take too many coyotes? Just thinking.....Maybe increased food supply? Garbage or rodents?
All of the above.
Not sure you'd ever find a source with the "real numbers" on coyotes.
I find it hilarious that on the Duvall, WA Facebook page, people get alarmed and post warnings to all the residents when someone sees a coyote. In Duvall. In the country. In dairy farm central. Mind boggling to me that people don't realize that they live in the country where stuff like that happens. It's only sort of out in the country relatively speaking.
Post by: Bofire on February 27, 2015, 10:05:02 AM
Carl
Post by: Skyvalhunter on February 27, 2015, 10:05:26 AM
Post by: PiNkPaNtHeR on February 27, 2015, 10:17:19 AM
Trappers don't get after em anymore, fur market for west side and maybe all cohorts is in t he tank.Are west side furs that bad (quality)? I was kinda hoping to do something constructive with them. Also thought about having one stuffed for a conversation piece. Any idea what that would cost and what I need to do to prep it?
Post by: jackelope on February 27, 2015, 10:19:24 AM
I don't think you personally could kill too many, or even enough to make a significant dent in the population, unless you're a paid coyote exterminator. I wouldn't worry about your impact on the population.
Post by: jackelope on February 27, 2015, 10:20:48 AM
The Duvall FB pasting is more of a warning to pet owners as cats and small dogs are an easy meal for coyotes
Well, the way they're worded you'd think Bigfoot and El Chupacabra themselves were running around wild raping and pillaging.
Post by: PiNkPaNtHeR on February 27, 2015, 10:42:14 AM
:) interesting bit of info about coyotes breeding habits. The harder they are hunted the more they breed. Kill all you can you'll never make a dent.I thought they only breed at certain times of the year (January-February) & breed/have litters based on food availability? Do they breed year around?
Carl
Post by: pianoman9701 on February 27, 2015, 11:58:33 AM
Post by: Gringo31 on February 27, 2015, 12:10:15 PM
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interesting bit of info about coyotes breeding habits. The harder they are hunted the more they breed. Kill all you can you'll never make a dent.
It not as much about breeding habits as it has to do with litter size. It is true populations in the fall may be close to the prior year or similar but IMO the education factor is much different. You might shoot the same number of dogs but you shoot way more pups/yearlings. This is good as the younger dogs are not as skilled making the impact on local wildlife (and livestock) less. :twocents:
Post by: JJD on February 27, 2015, 12:25:53 PM
They are eating well these days. :)
I don't believe habitat has all that much to do with it, they are pretty adaptable.
Last two mamals on earth will be the rat and the coyote, who the last mamal standing will be, will depend on circumstances.
Post by: PiNkPaNtHeR on February 27, 2015, 01:32:04 PM
I know the size of coyote liters is directly related to the calories they take in during gestation.Are you saying that if they eat more, they will have more babies after they're pregnant? I'm not sure I'm understanding what you said. Please explain.....?
They are eating well these days. :)
I don't believe habitat has all that much to do with it, they are pretty adaptable.
Last two mamals on earth will be the rat and the coyote, who the last mamal standing will be, will depend on circumstances.
Post by: b23 on March 01, 2015, 12:10:18 PM
There is evidence to suggest that coyotes mate for life, and that new mates are accepted after the removal of one of the pair. Mated male coyotes attend the females who give birth to the annual litter in an underground den. A regular den is often used year after year, unless the coyotes feel threatened at the den site.
Breeding occurs in February in southern states, and March in northern states. The gestation period is 63 days, and the female coyote will stay underground with her young until their eyes open 11 or 12 days later. During this time the male will bring food for the female and then help bring food to the den for the coyote pups.
Litter sizes average 5 to 7 pups in many areas. Litter sizes seem to be dependent upon coyote population densities. Litters may average 8 or 9 pups where coyote populations are sparse, but on the other hand, this phenomenon may reflect healthier coyotes due to an abundance of food.
Crosses between coyotes and dogs do occur rarely, and these crosses are know as "coy-dogs". Coy-dog reproduction is very poor because the coyote dogs breed in November which culminates in mid-winter births. Also, the male coy-dogs do not bring food for the females after the birthing process, and neither do the males help the female feed or raise the young.
Some juvenile female coyotes accept mates at 9 or 10 months of age, but most coyotes do not pair up with mates until they are 20-22 months old.
Post by: CAMPMEAT on March 01, 2015, 12:39:57 PM
Post by: PolarBear on March 01, 2015, 02:23:02 PM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on March 01, 2015, 02:26:05 PM
There are a ton of coyotes still on the San Poil down towards McMann Creek and over in the Swan Lake area.
Still too much snow in those areas, isn't there ? I almost went down to Swan this morning because I think the 204 is still open for cougar and wanted to try my Rainshadow call out he gave me.
Post by: BKMFR on March 01, 2015, 02:46:36 PM
Post by: ouchfoss on March 01, 2015, 05:22:43 PM
Trappers don't get after em anymore, fur market for west side and maybe all cohorts is in t he tank.Thats something I've wondered about. I've talked with people who used to trap dogs back in the foothold days and it sounds like the population was still high then but it was kept somewhat in check. I'm curious what the total harvest rates (trapping plus hunting) were for yotes then versus now. Willing to bet it was much higher then.
Post by: PiNkPaNtHeR on March 01, 2015, 11:03:23 PM
So I'm reading everything I can find on coyotes. Not sure I'm ready to invest in an electronic predator call yet, but maybe one day.
Thanks again for all the help.
Post by: JakeLand on March 17, 2015, 06:38:34 PM
Post by: billythekidrock on March 17, 2015, 06:48:25 PM
Quoteinteresting bit of info about coyotes breeding habits. The harder they are hunted the more they breed. Kill all you can you'll never make a dent.
It not as much about breeding habits as it has to do with litter size. It is true populations in the fall may be close to the prior year or similar but IMO the education factor is much different. You might shoot the same number of dogs but you shoot way more pups/yearlings. This is good as the younger dogs are not as skilled making the impact on local wildlife (and livestock) less. :twocents:
Another factor is the range of a dominant breeding pair. If you kill a dom it may allow two breeding pairs to split the range of the former pair. Twice as many dogs in a smaller area.
Post by: T Pearce on March 18, 2015, 08:41:56 PM
Urban sprawl........ Coyotes thrive in suburbia, as do other small game animals. Hunting these areas can be challenging.
Hunting the fringe areas using feline distress calls has brought me the biggest (dumbest) dogs ever.
Scout, look for "alot" of sign. Locate boundaries (they mark them) note the predominant wind direction and pick your blind location.
April is a better month for the shotgun and a howler as they will come for a fight. Left over goose loads work fine at these ranges.
Just my 2¢, Im not a pro nor have I recently visited a Holiday Inn.
Good luck
T
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