Post by: elkinrutdrivemenuts on March 02, 2015, 09:17:54 AM
Post by: Bofire on March 02, 2015, 09:22:00 AM
I know heresay!!
Carl
Post by: baker5150 on March 02, 2015, 09:30:41 AM
Very nice trucks otherwise, comfortable and a nice ride.
Post by: whacker1 on March 02, 2015, 09:31:43 AM
Post by: jackelope on March 02, 2015, 09:37:13 AM
Not as great gas mileage as they expected. They do good if you drive them like your grandma drives. They do good on the highway. Keep the turbo's un-spooled and you'll do better. You'll probably see 2-3 more mpg's than the v8's I'd guess.
Early ones(2011) had some intercooler issues. Aside from that they've been solid mechanically. They run really nice and smooth which is nice. Quieter and smoother than the v8's if that's a factor. The v8's are nice and smooth running too though.
Post by: jjhunter on March 02, 2015, 09:41:32 AM
Only downside is fuel economy. I average right around 16 with stock wheels and tires.
Post by: elkinrutdrivemenuts on March 02, 2015, 09:59:16 AM
Post by: BULLBLASTER on March 02, 2015, 06:22:01 PM
Post by: tjthebest on March 02, 2015, 06:36:36 PM
Post by: WoodlandShooter on March 03, 2015, 03:47:04 PM
They really need to add a hair dryer to the coyote in the new f150!
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Then slap the Brenthell Long Travel kit under it!!! :tup: :drool:
Post by: Special T on March 03, 2015, 04:59:01 PM
Post by: jackelope on March 03, 2015, 05:14:15 PM
They make one... I belive its call the Ford Raptor! :chuckle:
They're not turbo'd though.
Actually the newest raptor coming out will be ecoboost powered.
Post by: Special T on March 03, 2015, 05:18:04 PM
Brother in law has a Raptor, they are sweet... and if the Eco boost arnt really getting that great of fuel milage might as well get the big v8. :twocents:
It smooths out all the bumps right about 50mph.
Post by: BULLBLASTER on March 03, 2015, 06:26:57 PM
theres a twin turbo raptor running around spokane!They make one... I belive its call the Ford Raptor! :chuckle:
They're not turbo'd though.
Actually the newest raptor coming out will be ecoboost powered.
Post by: jackelope on March 03, 2015, 06:45:20 PM
We had this one in our shop a few months ago. It was on top gear last night.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ftapatalk.imageshack.com%2Fv2%2F15%2F03%2F03%2F4b828f5692fae5d7e293daf85b4d053d.jpg&hash=75252c6867d4e9ce1c0174bacaf4b14da84060de)
Post by: timberfaller on March 03, 2015, 07:35:27 PM
Nice looking, nice riding, lots of room(super crew) 8mpg pulling a single snowmobile on a open two place trailer! :yike:
Salesman at another dealership told him if you plan on hauling or towing Forget it. IT will do it, but at a great cost on fuel. After the fact, it was to late then.
Post by: BULLBLASTER on March 03, 2015, 07:58:23 PM
Post by: Special T on March 03, 2015, 08:21:11 PM
Post by: coachcw on March 03, 2015, 08:32:00 PM
Post by: elkinrutdrivemenuts on March 03, 2015, 08:41:25 PM
Why raptors don't need a twin turbo set up, people will die!
Post by: Jacque on March 16, 2015, 02:23:08 PM
Post by: baker5150 on March 16, 2015, 03:43:51 PM
Ford Raptor jumps 90 feet! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKQdlXvbWSU#)
Why raptors don't need a twin turbo set up, people will die!
Dude, hold my beer, and watch this.....
Post by: dreamingbig on March 16, 2015, 08:13:55 PM
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Post by: PiNkPaNtHeR on March 24, 2015, 06:13:45 PM
With the over-size tired, the speedometer/odometer is a little off, so the mileage will read lower than it actually is. My computer shows an average of 17mpg, so it's probably really more on the order of 18.5 or so. My guess is that if I took it to someone who knew what they were doing, the electronics could be tuned to change the torque curve to where it needs to be for the size of time I have on it. I forgot to mention that I took off the resonator and increased the exhaust diameter aft of the converter. With all that said, I'm not too hard on my vehicles and tend to take good care of them. Mine is a farm truck used to haul 1-2 yards of gravel, sand, soil & such. Also hauled a motorcycle from LA up here a while back and hauling the bike on the same trailer I use for soil at 70mph, the mileage dropped to about 15.5 on the computer. That was probably more like 17 in reality. I don't think that this engine/transsmission/rear-end/suspension combination was meant to haul a camper - even a light one. I think the wind resistance would be hard on the engine for a long haul at highway speeds. A little smaller diameter tire would work better for getting the torque curve where it needs to be unless the ignition timing and electronics could be tuned for a particular application. Also, a better exhaust system might work better, too.
Well, that's my :twocents:. Not going to knock anyone else's ride. So far I don't have any complaints as she's done everything I asked her to do so far.
Post by: Special T on March 24, 2015, 10:28:41 PM
Post by: WoodlandShooter on March 25, 2015, 08:30:58 AM
it's still a full size truck, so it takes the same power to move it down the road...and a gas engine must run at a semi constant A/F ratio....especially when under load. It's even more ctirical when under boost!!
Auto Makers love banking on the ignorance of the general public!!
the only thing you can do to a gasser to raise it's efficiency is raise the compression ratio...and well with pump gas, this can be probematic.
http://web.mit.edu/16.unified/www/SPRING/propulsion/notes/node25.html (http://web.mit.edu/16.unified/www/SPRING/propulsion/notes/node25.html)
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The ideal Otto cycle efficiency is shown as a function of the compression ratio in Figure 3.11. As the compression ratio increases, efficiency increases, but so does the temperature of compression. If the temperature of compression is too high, the mixture will ignite without a spark (at the wrong location in the cycle).
Post by: whacker1 on March 25, 2015, 09:39:05 AM
You can reduce rolling resistance and put highway tires on in the summer.
They have already taken advantage of lowering rpm's with gear ratio and 6 speed transmissions
Not much left to do but boost the hell out of them......, which most manufacturers are doing with various engine /vehicle combinations.
There still aren't a lot of longevity problems showing up with the 3.5 ecoboost and there are some high mileage versions out there.
a friend has 140k on his and i know that there are others out there much higher, I am monitoring for the next purchase.
Post by: TheHunt on March 25, 2015, 10:25:40 AM
1. I can sleep in the back seat during hunting season as the back seats fold up to expose the floor.
2. I have never had a problem with it.
3. If I can keep my foot off the gas I can get 19.x mpg.
Post by: birddogdad on March 25, 2015, 10:41:41 AM
I have an older F150 4x4 with the small 8, also have a 2500 dodge 4x4. The ford has become my utility truck (dump runs ect... ) cannot even empty come close to comfort, performance and mileage of the dodge...
Post by: Rick on March 25, 2015, 12:57:01 PM
don't know why anyone would get anything other than a diesel anymore...
Start with the additional $8000 it takes to get into a diesel with the current HD trucks.
Post by: BULLBLASTER on March 25, 2015, 01:37:08 PM
if mileage and towing is any concern, don't know why anyone would get anything other than a diesel anymore... 3/4T 4x4 stump pullers, 19+mpg, tow anything, 2 door, 4 door, long or short bed... pick your brand.. its all good....:yeah: my chev 5.3 got 13 mpg towing a car and trailer back from walla walla. If i was towing anything heavy (car, boat, etc.) Regularly like each week to the lake or something like that it would be a diesel all day long. Sure a half ton will do it fine but why not make it easier on the rig?
I have an older F150 4x4 with the small 8, also have a 2500 dodge 4x4. The ford has become my utility truck (dump runs ect... ) cannot even empty come close to comfort, performance and mileage of the dodge...
That said i dont tow much maybe a car a handful of times a year and dump runs etc. So my half ton gasser gets fhe nod. The ecoboost is a cool engine and does what it needs to well.
Post by: PiNkPaNtHeR on March 25, 2015, 02:40:09 PM
The reason I brought this up is that it was my intent to buy a 3/4-ton or 1-ton new truck in 2011 to do all tasks from being a daily driver for commuting to hauling a boat and camper. Well, the truck I bought cost about $30K and the 'do everything' truck I wanted cost around $50K+. High end, deluxe versions went for upwards of $60K. I figured for the difference of $30K I could put that into the '69 and have two 'new' trucks. Needless to say, the new 2011 is NOT up to the task of being a 'do everything' truck. It is, however, a lot nicer than either the '69 or the '85. It's a better ride, quieter, gets OK mileage, has enough power to haul loads of less than about 3000 pounds. I'm sure it's capable of hauling more, but I haven't pushed it yet. It came with the trailer towing package, so that's a good thing. I try to take care of my equipment no matter what it is & that includes our vehicles. Yes, the new (2011) truck has done all I've asked of it & never failed or even stumbled. I can't say a single bad thing about my truck. It reminds me of trying to choose a single caliber rifle to accomplish all tasks. So let's see if I feel the same way after 100,000 or even 200,000 miles if it lasts that long.
I'm sure that no matter which brand you favor, there are things that can be done to either have more power or more economy, and possibly even both at the same time. An improved exhaust system would be one of the things that should do both and there are probably some other things, too. Nitrous sounds like fun 8).
Post by: Skywagon_185 on March 25, 2015, 02:52:39 PM
This 150 is amazing to me after so many years of diesels. It's the first vehicle since my '67 Camaro that will burn the tires. If you want to pass something, just step on it and you're gone!! As said the mileage is nothing to write home about, about 16 day in and day out. I towed about 6000# behind it from Glenwood to Woodland via the USFS roads and the mileage dropped to 8.2. Still love it.
Post by: Mossy on April 09, 2015, 08:44:06 AM
Post by: cohoho on April 30, 2015, 05:57:44 PM
I bought a '13 F150 Lariat crew last August with 8200 miles. Both the wife and I have been driving Ford diesels for the past 20 years and they're both getting long in the tooth. Mine an F350 crew 7.3, 6 spd. manual with 287k, in the woods, hers a '92 F250 supercab, 7.3, 5 spd. manual with 215k. Both have been awesome trucks. We kept both trucks for the heavy towing. She pulls horses.
This 150 is amazing to me after so many years of diesels. It's the first vehicle since my '67 Camaro that will burn the tires. If you want to pass something, just step on it and you're gone!! As said the mileage is nothing to write home about, about 16 day in and day out. I towed about 6000# behind it from Glenwood to Woodland via the USFS roads and the mileage dropped to 8.2. Still love it.
I was really curious on that weight and what the mileage does when towing. Do you have the 3.5 or the other motor? Went to the dealer yesterday and was looking but they all had the 2.7 Echo Boost and no 3.5 Echo Boost were available at that current time...
Post by: elkinrutdrivemenuts on May 01, 2015, 10:58:06 AM
Post by: jstone on May 01, 2015, 11:38:32 AM