Post by: Muskrat on March 07, 2015, 06:37:35 PM
Post by: elkboy on March 07, 2015, 07:13:13 PM
Post by: singleshot12 on March 07, 2015, 07:35:31 PM
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Post by: Whitpirate on March 07, 2015, 11:11:18 PM
Post by: HntnFsh on March 08, 2015, 08:29:38 AM
Post by: kodiak 907 on March 08, 2015, 11:30:27 AM
Sign of inbreeding. Piebalds should be culled:yeah:
Post by: dreamunelk on March 08, 2015, 11:48:25 AM
Sign of inbreeding. Piebalds should be culled:yeah:
False!
It just happens.
Post by: 3nails on March 08, 2015, 12:41:24 PM
Post by: singleshot12 on March 08, 2015, 01:16:14 PM
Sign of inbreeding. Piebalds should be culled:yeah:
False!
It just happens.
Are you sure about that?..From what I've read it is a genetic mutation due to inbreeding. Plus most of the piebald sightings have been on small islands and areas where the local gene pool stays more confined for whatever reason.
But if you have proof otherwise it would be nice to see it.
Post by: Tbar on March 08, 2015, 01:27:27 PM
Not that you didn't see piebald deer but a lot of people see deer this time of year that have hair slip and think that they are piebald. Deer rub the hair right off of their body due to the itching and expose their bare skin making it appear white.:yeah:
I have noticed several animals this year that have hair slip. I thought it was on the decrease but this year seems as bad as any year in recent memory.
As for piebald deer I know if several areas in Whatcom, Island and Skagit that they can be found. Some are completely white (not albino) and others appaloosa looking. There was a pretty good buck in one area, cool to see.
Post by: Firedogg on March 08, 2015, 01:30:08 PM
Post by: kodiak 907 on March 08, 2015, 01:33:26 PM
:yeah:Sign of inbreeding. Piebalds should be culled:yeah:
False!
It just happens.
Are you sure about that?..From what I've read it is a genetic mutation due to inbreeding. Plus most of the piebald sightings have been on small islands and areas where the local gene pool stays more confined for whatever reason.
But if you have proof otherwise it would be nice to see it.
Post by: JimmyHoffa on March 08, 2015, 01:40:11 PM
My understanding is that the deer probably has an albino ancestor. In an area with inbreeding it can come out more. But just because the deer is piebald doesn't mean it is due to inbreeding. WDFW did some research about it on the peninsula because of the number of piebalds. The started tracking DNA and ended up concluding that the deer that started it for the area was an albino buck that lived around 200 years ago.Sign of inbreeding. Piebalds should be culled:yeah:
False!
It just happens.
Are you sure about that?..From what I've read it is a genetic mutation due to inbreeding. Plus most of the piebald sightings have been on small islands and areas where the local gene pool stays more confined for whatever reason.
But if you have proof otherwise it would be nice to see it.
Post by: whackmaster on March 08, 2015, 06:59:19 PM
Post by: Okanagan on March 16, 2015, 09:13:49 AM
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi152.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fs199%2Flokanagan%2Fwildlife%2FIMG_3114.jpg&hash=f233dea1a8fcd652cccbee9c8210482b9b240edb) (http://s152.photobucket.com/user/lokanagan/media/wildlife/IMG_3114.jpg.html)
Lots of piebald and even some pure white blacktail deer in Whatcom County. The white one I looked at closely with binos at 30 yards was not albino but was pure white all over.
Have also seen them farther south along I-5 in Skagit County and seen some in Clallam County on the Penninsula.
Sure a pretty hide on some of them. One on the Penninsula had a palm sized black patch on its side amid the appaloosa piebald markings.
Post by: boneaddict on March 16, 2015, 09:24:16 AM
(More chances of getting like traits). Thus enhancing the amount of piebald, however can come with other costs.
Post by: Gringo31 on March 16, 2015, 09:44:14 AM
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Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on January 13, 2019, 03:01:21 PM
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Post by: flyfishWA on January 13, 2019, 08:31:14 PM
Post by: Shoofly09 on January 13, 2019, 10:43:42 PM
Post by: JWEBB on January 13, 2019, 11:05:01 PM
Good little buck
Wow! Really neat pic
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on January 14, 2019, 09:34:28 AM
A few in chelan also. See several every yearI've seen several in Chelan county over the last 17 years
Post by: fishnfur on January 14, 2019, 10:07:04 PM
https://www.qdma.com/look-inside-piebald-deer/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piebaldism
Post by: HoofsandWings on January 15, 2019, 03:50:26 PM
Reading these posts, there was no mention of length of hair. The one I saw had hair 6 inches long and the ears had long silky hair.
Post by: buckcanyonlodge on January 15, 2019, 05:13:05 PM
Post by: fishnfur on January 15, 2019, 05:14:30 PM
Saw piebald deer in the Swakane drainage.
Reading these posts, there was no mention of length of hair. The one I saw had hair 6 inches long and the ears had long silky hair.
Weird!
Post by: HookedOnQuack on January 15, 2019, 05:18:50 PM
Post by: fishnfur on January 15, 2019, 11:35:53 PM
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Post by: deerhuntr4885 on March 05, 2019, 08:05:22 PM
Post by: HoofsandWings on March 05, 2019, 09:09:19 PM
I could see the silky hair on its ears. They were long.
Post by: lokidog on March 05, 2019, 10:54:53 PM
There are a number in the San Juan Islands, especially on Orcas Island. I think those deer out there don't have the "predation penalty" for light patches that mainland deer do!
I've seen two here on Decatur. I'd shoot one given the chance.
Post by: elkrack on March 09, 2019, 04:31:15 PM
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Post by: smithkl42 on March 16, 2019, 11:13:23 AM
This would be an interesting test-case of my theory that, over time, Blacktail (and probably other flavors) will begin to develop into separate wild and suburban subspecies. In order for suburban deer to survive, they need to not be too concerned about humans, because the closer they get to humans, the better they're protected from predators. No soccer mom is going to stand for coyotes killing fawns in her backyard, however many of her roses get eaten. In contrast, because of hunting pressure, wild deer need to stay as frightened of humans as possible. Over time, this is going to select for radically different behavior and survival strategies. Assuming we humans are still around in 100 years and still have backyards and greenbelts, I would be surprised if it weren't possible to identify the different subspecies morphologically. The piebald trait might end up being one of those morphological characteristics.
Post by: teanawayslayer on March 16, 2019, 05:14:32 PM
Post by: bigmacc on March 16, 2019, 06:05:04 PM
There are a number in the San Juan Islands, especially on Orcas Island. I think those deer out there don't have the "predation penalty" for light patches that mainland deer do!
I've seen two here on Decatur. I'd shoot one given the chance.
Bad joo-joo, bad karma, Ive had my chance at 2 good bucks that were either albino or piebald in the Methow years ago, my dad always said don't even look at em :chuckle: Actually pulling the trigger on one, Heck no :chuckle:, you have been warned :hello:
Post by: HighCountryHunter88 on March 17, 2019, 08:45:06 PM
A buddy sent this to me. Pic taken in orting.
That’s her! I thinks she’s two now
Post by: elkrack on March 22, 2019, 01:14:50 PM