Post by: wooltie on March 09, 2015, 11:41:43 AM
Can anyone point me in the right direction here? I'm looking for something to suit me needs:
Going 16" bbl.
Probably throw a 1-4 scope on it. PST?
Intend to plink / sHTF / and possible coyote hunt with it.
I don't need the 4-600 yard accuracy potential. Rather,
Looking for durability, proper fit, and a solid functional record i.e. always goes boom.
Basically I decided not to buy a brand name NIB rifle (Colt, RRA, FN, etc) and want to buy an assembled lower and assembled upper. The price difference between that and buying all the parts and assembling yourself seems marginal, so I'm shopping for prebuilt upper / lower. I could be wrong, however.
Seeing these brands:
SSA
PSA
Anderson
Aero Precision
Spikes
Incendia
should I avoid any of these?
Thanks for any input.
Post by: Biggerhammer on March 09, 2015, 11:27:57 PM
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/09/29/ruger-ar-556-modern-sporting-rifle-ruger-ar-15-budget/ (http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/09/29/ruger-ar-556-modern-sporting-rifle-ruger-ar-15-budget/)
Post by: Dan-o on March 09, 2015, 11:37:17 PM
Might want to take a look at the Ruger AR-556. One of our local shops is selling them for 569.00.
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/09/29/ruger-ar-556-modern-sporting-rifle-ruger-ar-15-budget/ (http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/09/29/ruger-ar-556-modern-sporting-rifle-ruger-ar-15-budget/)
Wow, how have the reviews been on these?
(Sorry for the thread jack)
Post by: wooltie on March 10, 2015, 10:57:33 AM
Post by: CP on March 10, 2015, 11:27:40 AM
Might want to take a look at the Ruger AR-556. One of our local shops is selling them for 569.00.
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/09/29/ruger-ar-556-modern-sporting-rifle-ruger-ar-15-budget/ (http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/09/29/ruger-ar-556-modern-sporting-rifle-ruger-ar-15-budget/)
Which shop?
Post by: Biggerhammer on March 10, 2015, 11:33:54 AM
Post by: CP on March 12, 2015, 01:07:52 PM
Hooked On Toys in Wenatchee. (509)663-0740 Ext-4 they usually sold them quick when they came in. I saw 12 set aside and already sold when I was there last, when some were delivered.
They have a waiting list now.
Post by: Jacque on March 12, 2015, 01:32:05 PM
Post by: wooltie on March 16, 2015, 06:48:37 AM
Despite the carbon gas system [seems everyone prefers mid length], this is a great deal. I'm considering that upper or a BCM mid length upper. the BCM costs an extra $250 though....not sure if mid length is worth an extra $250..
I'll go with anderson, aero, or SAA lowers from SAA.
Post by: mountainman on March 16, 2015, 07:11:50 AM
ctd is selling LE6920 complete uppers with troy rails for $550.:tup:
Despite the carbon gas system [seems everyone prefers mid length], this is a great deal. I'm considering that upper or a BCM mid length upper. the BCM costs an extra $250 though....not sure if mid length is worth an extra $250..
I'll go with anderson, aero, or SAA lowers from SAA.
Post by: Special T on March 16, 2015, 07:53:55 AM
I would check out the Busnell 1x4 iluminated with the bad lever 1st plane optic. On 1x it looks like a red dot with a circle but when you bump it up to 4x (the lever is nice for that) there is the built in 223 drop out to 400 yards or so. Check it out, i think you will like it for a smaller magnification scope...
BTW why get a bull barrel in 16"? It sounds like you are going for a lighter carbine style rifle instead of a longer range shooter? I would think that a bull barrel in 18-20 would be better for those longer shots... But you only want a lower pwer scope...
Post by: wooltie on March 16, 2015, 09:53:55 AM
Just remember that Troy Industires supported the shooting of an unarmed woman and little kid at Ruby ridge....
I would check out the Busnell 1x4 iluminated with the bad lever 1st plane optic. On 1x it looks like a red dot with a circle but when you bump it up to 4x (the lever is nice for that) there is the built in 223 drop out to 400 yards or so. Check it out, i think you will like it for a smaller magnification scope...
BTW why get a bull barrel in 16"? It sounds like you are going for a lighter carbine style rifle instead of a longer range shooter? I would think that a bull barrel in 18-20 would be better for those longer shots... But you only want a lower pwer scope...
I decided to go with two ARs instead of building one dual purpose rifle.
This build will be a 16" w/rails, BUIS, and an Aimpoint.
The BCM and LE6920 bcg/barrel specs are the same just different gas systems. BCM just costs a few hundred more. Not having shot a middy gas system, I'm not sure the extra $ is justified.
What happened with Troy arms?
Post by: Special T on March 16, 2015, 10:26:44 AM
Post by: wooltie on March 18, 2015, 01:25:44 PM
Right now I'm considering:
6920 w/Troy rails and MaTech BUIS...$550 at CTD.
or
BCM 16" middy, w/BCM BUIS and modkey rails for $775.
Post by: Jingles on March 18, 2015, 01:47:45 PM
Just can't see where you folks feel it is cheaper to build and can't see purchasing a cheap POS just to say I have an AR.
Post by: CP on March 18, 2015, 01:50:21 PM
I was going to do a build but after checking around for parts hell it was cheaper to purchase a factory build. Had I used a supplier from Wenatchee it would of cost me 325. plus shipping, tax and ffl fees for the lower if I purchased the parts and put it together myself. I could purchase the lower directly from Stag for 300 plus shipping fees and FFL then purchase the upper for 585.00. or shop around and find an out of state dealer that had a sale on for the same rifle for 795 out the door.
Just can't see where you folks feel it is cheaper to build and can't see purchasing a cheap POS just to say I have an AR.
Curious, what would you consider to be a POS AR?
Post by: Jingles on March 18, 2015, 01:54:15 PM
Post by: wooltie on March 18, 2015, 02:00:07 PM
I work in manufacturing. So if the parts are certified built to spec and the company has a good quality reputation, then I will buy from that company. I don't have a romantic loyalty to any brand either. I value function and reliability / price.
I intend to build or buy a complete lower from SAA for $150-180 sans the taxman.
Colt upper costs $550. BCM costs $775.
Total cost is $700-925.
I understand that some bushies and RRA are around 8-900.
Post by: wildweeds on March 18, 2015, 02:29:47 PM
Post by: Special T on March 18, 2015, 10:57:37 PM