Post by: jstone on March 12, 2015, 10:59:38 AM
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on March 12, 2015, 11:05:27 AM
Post by: Ridgerunner on March 12, 2015, 11:12:38 AM
Post by: vandeman17 on March 12, 2015, 11:16:59 AM
Post by: Netminder01 on March 12, 2015, 11:27:27 AM
My :twocents:
Post by: Colville on March 12, 2015, 11:30:45 AM
I'd only pay an outfitter for a ride to where I want to hunt. When I'm 70 I may see this very differently. I have no interest in paying $5k to shoot WA mule deer, now or then.
Post by: jstone on March 12, 2015, 12:08:39 PM
Post by: HighCountryHunter88 on March 12, 2015, 12:11:59 PM
Post by: emac on March 12, 2015, 12:13:21 PM
It was not Tanglewood. But Jim Burnworth hunted with them last year. So maybe thats why they think its worth the 5000.00?Okanagon valley outfitters I do believe. Or is it guide service can't remember for sure.
Post by: h20hunter on March 12, 2015, 12:15:24 PM
I've hunted with Tanglewood before and like them. Last I checked they were no where in the same universe as that price but it's been a few years. Oren and his family run a solid outfit with plenty of big deer on private & public land.
My :twocents:
Netminder.....when did you go? I've hunted with Oren and the crew twice....I should say I took my dad once and my brother a second time. Todd and the crew are a good bunch. Rita has a knife that I had Rainshadow make for her. It was a pearl handled all purpose knife. When I gave it to her she said hang on and came back with a loaded .44 mag saying look how pretty it is next to my favorite gun!
Post by: Netminder01 on March 12, 2015, 12:43:42 PM
I've hunted with Tanglewood before and like them. Last I checked they were no where in the same universe as that price but it's been a few years. Oren and his family run a solid outfit with plenty of big deer on private & public land.
My :twocents:
Netminder.....when did you go? I've hunted with Oren and the crew twice....I should say I took my dad once and my brother a second time. Todd and the crew are a good bunch. Rita has a knife that I had Rainshadow make for her. It was a pearl handled all purpose knife. When I gave it to her she said hang on and came back with a loaded .44 mag saying look how pretty it is next to my favorite gun!
I went 3-4 years ago and have a nice Mulie on my wall to show for it. I really enjoyed their company and even took my GF (at the time) with me for a turkey hunt. Great country - great people.
Post by: CAMPMEAT on March 12, 2015, 01:03:30 PM
Post by: time2hunt on March 12, 2015, 08:14:25 PM
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Post by: Igor on March 13, 2015, 08:09:27 AM
http://earlywintersoutfitting.com/hunt.html (http://earlywintersoutfitting.com/hunt.html)
Post by: WAmuleyHunter on March 13, 2015, 09:20:01 AM
Post by: mountainman on March 13, 2015, 09:31:59 AM
Post by: huntnfmly on March 13, 2015, 07:55:26 PM
Post by: huntnfmly on March 13, 2015, 08:11:07 PM
Post by: MuleDeer on March 13, 2015, 09:31:44 PM
Cost a lot of money to keep those apple piles full. Must be hard to edit some of those shows with trying not to show to many apple trees, houses, tractors and old orchard equipment. ;)
Or the thousands and thousands of acres of open land, both public and private. Just sayin. ;)
Post by: coachcw on March 13, 2015, 11:09:22 PM
Is it really worth $5000 to sit over a pile of Apples for a week not hunting in my Book.they just bait and wait .
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Post by: beaslayer6 on March 14, 2015, 09:20:34 AM
Post by: MtnMuley on March 14, 2015, 02:58:00 PM
Post by: jackelope on March 14, 2015, 04:57:25 PM
Post by: mountainman on March 14, 2015, 05:54:40 PM
Post by: blindluck on March 14, 2015, 05:59:39 PM
Post by: HntnFsh on March 15, 2015, 02:34:34 PM
I have a hard time with this, I shoot better bucks then most of what you will get with these guys, doing it all myself on public land and doesnt cost me a penny, I dont understand capable people paying for this. to each is own i guess.
Whats your trick to getting all these nice bucks on private land for free! :chuckle:
Just kidding. I know what you mean but dang. Just going hunting seems to cost me a lot. Even if its just out back!
Post by: blindluck on March 15, 2015, 07:17:51 PM
I can usually do a two week hunt for $500 or less, fuel and groceries. I figure I can hunt 10 years for the price of one of these $5000 hunts for a 150" buck or smallerI have a hard time with this, I shoot better bucks then most of what you will get with these guys, doing it all myself on public land and doesnt cost me a penny, I dont understand capable people paying for this. to each is own i guess.
Whats your trick to getting all these nice bucks on private land for free! :chuckle:
Just kidding. I know what you mean but dang. Just going hunting seems to cost me a lot. Even if its just out back!
Post by: teanawayslayer on March 15, 2015, 07:27:32 PM
Post by: blindluck on March 15, 2015, 07:57:48 PM
Post by: Smack on March 17, 2015, 01:30:39 PM
I had a couple buddies who went with okanogan valley guide service for the late archery season two years ago. It was 5 grand a piece. They weren't very impressed they sat in the same blind for the whole week. One buddy saw one small 3x4 towards the end of the hunt and took him. The guy he went with that paid for the both of them didn't even see a legal buck. They said the lodge was not that great and the food wasn't that great.
This is typical treatment from OVGS, however if you say you will get his face on some outdoor show or can further his business he's all in to roll out the red carpet for you (or red apples) LOL. I've spoke to several people who have been done extremely wrong, also I know quite a few land owners or locals in the surrounding area and they have nothing good to say about this guide service or him as a person. All of it speaking of lack of integrity in business matters. If you have used him and had good luck consider yourself lucky. if your considering using him.......reconsider. I would. one last thing this is not a bash, everything i've said is the facts!!!!!!
Post by: kkc66 on March 31, 2015, 04:17:51 AM
Post by: rtspring on March 31, 2015, 06:48:58 AM
Rtspring
Post by: MtnMuley on March 31, 2015, 07:00:29 AM
I drew an any buck tag last year and l have talk to OVGS before and I booked with him to do that hunt in the rut in late nov AND IT WAS WORTH THE MONEY .We hunted 3 1/2 days and l passed on deer every day I took a very nice white tail buck that went 6x6 158 b&c and passed a big 5x5 mule deer probley 28" . The only reason l took the white tail because it was my first one and I have gotten big mullies before. The guide was the best ,it was not J. GIBBENS but an employee or buddy he has working for him. I NEVER SAW ANY BAITING or an upset land owners We were on privet land every day .I would us OVGS any time and only can say good things
Any pics of that 158" 6x6 whitey?
Post by: boneaddict on March 31, 2015, 07:40:52 AM
Post by: coachcw on March 31, 2015, 12:54:41 PM
Renton sitting on a pile of apples in private property that they said they had permission , wrong ! anyway I let the guy hunt since he didn't know better and spent the $$$$$$. my guess is he hunts way more private land than he has permission too .
Post by: kirkl on March 31, 2015, 01:05:43 PM
To some, 5K is nothing more than money spent on a coffee for a normal Joe. To each is own.
Exactly what bone said, Its not your money, who cares how a guy spends his money. Its not like hes getting into your checking account and stealing 5 grand from you to pay for his hunts. Man this site cracks me up.
Post by: jrebel on March 31, 2015, 05:59:09 PM
Don't much care about the money aspect...just another way for some to hunt. Definitely don't like the trend of shady guides hunting land they don't have permission to hunt.
Post by: huntnnw on March 31, 2015, 10:00:31 PM
Post by: mountainman on March 31, 2015, 10:30:00 PM
in 2013 they had a guy fromhave anything to support that? Freind of a friends sisters cousin?
Renton sitting on a pile of apples in private property that they said they had permission , wrong ! anyway I let the guy hunt since he didn't know better and spent the $$$$$$. my guess is he hunts way more private land than he has permission too .
:yeah:To some, 5K is nothing more than money spent on a coffee for a normal Joe. To each is own.
Exactly what bone said, Its not your money, who cares how a guy spends his money. Its not like hes getting into your checking account and stealing 5 grand from you to pay for his hunts. Man this site cracks me up.
Post by: MtnMuley on March 31, 2015, 10:34:17 PM
LMAO, we have a supporter here. Might be a bag of worms you you might not want to open mtnman................in 2013 they had a guy fromhave anything to support that? Freind of a friends sisters cousin?
Renton sitting on a pile of apples in private property that they said they had permission , wrong ! anyway I let the guy hunt since he didn't know better and spent the $$$$$$. my guess is he hunts way more private land than he has permission too .:yeah:To some, 5K is nothing more than money spent on a coffee for a normal Joe. To each is own.
Exactly what bone said, Its not your money, who cares how a guy spends his money. Its not like hes getting into your checking account and stealing 5 grand from you to pay for his hunts. Man this site cracks me up.
Post by: mountainman on April 01, 2015, 12:41:40 AM
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on April 01, 2015, 06:21:14 AM
Post by: coachcw on April 01, 2015, 06:49:14 AM
pm sent....in 2013 they had a guy fromhave anything to support that? Freind of a friends sisters cousin?
Renton sitting on a pile of apples in private property that they said they had permission , wrong ! anyway I let the guy hunt since he didn't know better and spent the $$$$$$. my guess is he hunts way more private land than he has permission too .:yeah:To some, 5K is nothing more than money spent on a coffee for a normal Joe. To each is own.
Exactly what bone said, Its not your money, who cares how a guy spends his money. Its not like hes getting into your checking account and stealing 5 grand from you to pay for his hunts. Man this site cracks me up.
Post by: rtspring on April 01, 2015, 06:51:05 AM
in 2013 they had a guy fromhave anything to support that? Freind of a friends sisters cousin?
Renton sitting on a pile of apples in private property that they said they had permission , wrong ! anyway I let the guy hunt since he didn't know better and spent the $$$$$$. my guess is he hunts way more private land than he has permission too .:yeah:To some, 5K is nothing more than money spent on a coffee for a normal Joe. To each is own.
Exactly what bone said, Its not your money, who cares how a guy spends his money. Its not like hes getting into your checking account and stealing 5 grand from you to pay for his hunts. Man this site cracks me up.
If your going to believe anyone on this site, you might want to believe Coach'S words!
Post by: jackelope on April 01, 2015, 08:18:41 AM
You can LYAO Mtnmuley. I don't support or not support this outfit. I have hunted geese several time with Jerrod, and had good experiences both times. If he is doing anything unprofessional, people do need to know. Let's get facts in that case. Not just" a freind said" or" I heard that..". Those you have actually hunted with this outfit has said good things. If there are negative comments, let those that have actually hunted with him make those comments. Only fair. Hunters here deserve that, don't you think?
It's more than a freind of a friend's sister's cousin that Coachcw is referring to.
Post by: mountainman on April 01, 2015, 09:53:43 AM
received, Thanks Coachpm sent....in 2013 they had a guy fromhave anything to support that? Freind of a friends sisters cousin?
Renton sitting on a pile of apples in private property that they said they had permission , wrong ! anyway I let the guy hunt since he didn't know better and spent the $$$$$$. my guess is he hunts way more private land than he has permission too .:yeah:To some, 5K is nothing more than money spent on a coffee for a normal Joe. To each is own.
Exactly what bone said, Its not your money, who cares how a guy spends his money. Its not like hes getting into your checking account and stealing 5 grand from you to pay for his hunts. Man this site cracks me up.
Post by: bearpaw on April 02, 2015, 04:22:30 PM
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Post by: mountainman on April 02, 2015, 04:50:26 PM
Post by: kkc66 on April 03, 2015, 02:31:34 AM
You can LYAO Mtnmuley. I don't support or not support this outfit. I have hunted geese several time with Jerrod, and had good experiences both times. If he is doing anything unprofessional, people do need to know. Let's get facts in that case. Not just" a freind said" or" I heard that..". Those you have actually hunted with this outfit has said good things. If there are negative comments, let those that have actually hunted with him make those comments. Only fair. Hunters here deserve that, don't you think?
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Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on April 03, 2015, 11:41:50 AM
I drew an any buck tag last year and l have talk to OVGS before and I booked with him to do that hunt in the rut in late nov AND IT WAS WORTH THE MONEY .We hunted 3 1/2 days and l passed on deer every day I took a very nice white tail buck that went 6x6 158 b&c and passed a big 5x5 mule deer probley 28" . The only reason l took the white tail because it was my first one and I have gotten big mullies before. The guide was the best ,it was not J. GIBBENS but an employee or buddy he has working for him. I NEVER SAW ANY BAITING or an upset land owners We were on privet land every day .I would us OVGS any time and only can say good things
Any pics of that 158" 6x6 whitey?
he changed it to 5x5...
And its a four point. that lost eight inches...
Post by: MtnMuley on April 03, 2015, 01:36:15 PM
Post by: Rainier10 on April 03, 2015, 01:40:35 PM
Can we just see this pic? :dunno: :chuckle:Go back to his first post, it has been modified to say 5x5 and 150" there is a photo of a 5x5 below his edited post. :tup:
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on April 03, 2015, 01:42:08 PM
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on April 03, 2015, 01:42:44 PM
Can we just see this pic? :dunno: :chuckle:Go back to his first post, it has been modified to say 5x5 and 150" there is a photo of a 5x5 below his edited post. :tup:
That's a four point. :chuckle:
Post by: jackelope on April 03, 2015, 01:53:41 PM
Can we just see this pic? :dunno: :chuckle:Go back to his first post, it has been modified to say 5x5 and 150" there is a photo of a 5x5 below his edited post. :tup:
10 pointer.
Post by: MtnMuley on April 03, 2015, 01:54:22 PM
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Post by: huntnfmly on April 04, 2015, 12:09:47 AM