Post by: WapitiTalk1 on March 16, 2015, 08:02:32 PM
Post by: coachcw on March 16, 2015, 08:07:35 PM
Post by: Rainier10 on March 16, 2015, 08:15:28 PM
Post by: xXLojackXx on March 16, 2015, 08:31:37 PM
Post by: JimmyHoffa on March 16, 2015, 08:36:27 PM
Post by: ridgefire on March 16, 2015, 09:51:28 PM
Post by: Bean Counter on March 17, 2015, 04:43:29 AM
Both great. Idaho has about a half a million more people than Montana. Seems Montana has more private land available (if you wanted to take up ranching).
:yike: Wow I didn't realize how much more pop dense Idaho is than MT.
Post by: Bean Counter on March 17, 2015, 04:44:00 AM
Cheers to a great retirement :brew:
Post by: Duffer on March 17, 2015, 05:06:37 AM
RJ Thanks for your service :salute:
Cheers to a great retirement :brew:
Ditto on both these
Idaho is not as tax friendly for retirement. You don't have to live in the state you hunt. Weigh the costs. Being close to family would be big for us btw.
Post by: Special T on March 17, 2015, 09:46:53 AM
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on March 17, 2015, 10:02:13 AM
Post by: baker5150 on March 17, 2015, 10:06:06 AM
It has everything an outdoor enthusiast could ask for from a landlocked state.
I could spend years just exploring Glacier National Park.
Post by: vandeman17 on March 17, 2015, 10:11:31 AM
Post by: Special T on March 17, 2015, 11:06:12 AM
I really like the Kalispell / Whitefish area.
It has everything an outdoor enthusiast could ask for from a landlocked state.
I could spend years just exploring Glacier National Park.
I have a customer from there. We talked about how Californians are invading MT and its becoming more liberal ESPECIALLY in the Western part of the state. That would be my only big concern about MT... If they did more things premptively Like ID to require supermajorities to change certain things they could stave off the Komifornication of itself.
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on March 17, 2015, 11:24:42 AM
Post by: Bean Counter on March 17, 2015, 01:19:27 PM
Post by: ipkus on March 18, 2015, 01:48:42 PM
Post by: bowtechian on March 18, 2015, 02:09:34 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on March 18, 2015, 02:39:28 PM
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Post by: DOUBLELUNG on March 18, 2015, 03:20:15 PM
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on March 18, 2015, 05:53:19 PM
Idaho all day long! Besides all the stuff already mentioned, Montana is quickly becoming a money grubbing state like Washington. Better odds at oil tags in Idaho as well as deer trophy potential that absolutely, positively, 100% blows Montana out of the water. All that being said, I vote Colorado :chuckle:
BLR, I mentioned I wanted to move to a more "conservative" part of the country, CO don't fit the bill anymore ;) I do agree with you about a good portion of W MT, the money started moving in close to 20 years ago and it's just plain ridiculous now around certain areas to buy anything. That said, it's still not too bad in the outlying areas.
Post by: Karl Blanchard on March 18, 2015, 06:02:50 PM
Valid point about all the sandal wearing hippies, but man oh man the hunting!!!!!!!! :IBCOOL: I guess as a resident montana would be good, I just hate how they continue to rape non residents. They have officially priced me out this year, and thats saying a lot because I put in for most states and spend some coin every fall. I have a soft spot for country around Eureka though. The breaks aren't bad either ;) Honestly, any choice you make is gonna be a good one because there are no bad choices in this scenario.Idaho all day long! Besides all the stuff already mentioned, Montana is quickly becoming a money grubbing state like Washington. Better odds at oil tags in Idaho as well as deer trophy potential that absolutely, positively, 100% blows Montana out of the water. All that being said, I vote Colorado :chuckle:
BLR, I mentioned I wanted to move to a more "conservative" part of the country, CO don't fit the bill anymore ;) I do agree with you about a good portion of W MT, the money started moving in close to 20 years ago and it's just plain ridiculous now around certain areas to buy anything. That said, it's still not too bad in the outlying areas.
Post by: ipkus on March 18, 2015, 09:30:10 PM
Idaho all day long! Besides all the stuff already mentioned, Montana is quickly becoming a money grubbing state like Washington. Better odds at oil tags in Idaho as well as deer trophy potential that absolutely, positively, 100% blows Montana out of the water. All that being said, I vote Colorado :chuckle:
While your points are all valid, he did say "Retirement Elk State" :chuckle:
Post by: nalley112 on March 18, 2015, 09:37:35 PM
Ennis Mt. and near alder Mt. is also great country that hold awsome Bulls!! i lived east of alder 25 miles while guiding there and absolutely loved the country..
Post by: CAMPMEAT on March 18, 2015, 09:39:07 PM
Post by: Little Dave on March 18, 2015, 10:06:40 PM
Post by: JimmyHoffa on March 18, 2015, 10:13:43 PM
If you don't like taxes, try Delta Junction, Alaska. No state income tax, no sales tax, no property tax.And there's an Elk Ranch for sale near there too.
Post by: Little Dave on March 18, 2015, 11:25:16 PM
Post by: pianoman9701 on March 19, 2015, 05:28:48 AM
Post by: Bean Counter on March 19, 2015, 05:30:47 AM
ID. MT will be a blue state soon with all of therich buying up land and influence.half hearted conservatives no longer making babies >:(
Another view on the demographic change. :twocents:
Post by: LittleJohn on March 19, 2015, 05:48:47 AM
But I'm sure Idaho would be great too.
As long as you bring your own income, unemployment rate is 18% :{
As far as hunting goes its pretty great place to be. Elk numbers are good, but not great. The mule deer are definitely down. The whitetails are off the hook right now with some really nice bucks around.
Pretty much the entire area around NW MT is open to the public hunting property. Endless opportunities to be outside.
Between general season archery/rifle big game, spring bear and turkey, wolf, cats, trapping, and shed hunting its a year round deal.
Only thing I miss about western WA is the salmon and steal head fishing :) :)
Post by: Houndhunter on March 19, 2015, 07:32:46 AM
That being said, I moved here blind with no family or friends. I thought I'd jump head first into it, but quickly realized without any support it really makes hunting and getting out tough when you are 100% by yourself. I'd move to where you have family and/or friends :twocents:
Post by: CAMPMEAT on March 19, 2015, 07:33:57 AM
If you don't like taxes, try Delta Junction, Alaska. No state income tax, no sales tax, no property tax.
I've been there, little too cold for me... :tup:
Post by: pianoman9701 on March 19, 2015, 07:44:27 AM
If you don't like taxes, try Delta Junction, Alaska. No state income tax, no sales tax, no property tax.
I've been there, little too cold for me... :tup:
No elk either, are there?
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on March 19, 2015, 08:03:19 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on March 19, 2015, 08:09:56 AM
Colorado seems to be my newest spot if I were to more .. Lots of elk- deer and you can run the hell out of the hounds and chase some lions ..But then again Colorado could be the next devastation of a wolf pack :dunno: :bash: :bash:
And their gun laws are Draconian. I would actually think about TN or KY. I don't see the liberal influences on individual liberties in either state and the elk herds there are growing fast. It won't be too many years before the draw is very productive in either.
Post by: CAMPMEAT on March 19, 2015, 09:23:41 AM
Colorado seems to be my newest spot if I were to more .. Lots of elk- deer and you can run the hell out of the hounds and chase some lions ..But then again Colorado could be the next devastation of a wolf pack :dunno: :bash: :bash:
Geeze, in Colorado, you'd have to watch out for the stoned hunters..... :chuckle:
Post by: pianoman9701 on March 19, 2015, 10:34:56 AM
Colorado seems to be my newest spot if I were to more .. Lots of elk- deer and you can run the hell out of the hounds and chase some lions ..But then again Colorado could be the next devastation of a wolf pack :dunno: :bash: :bash:
Geeze, in Colorado, you'd have to watch out for the stoned hunters..... :chuckle:
So then not much of a transition moving from WA? :chuckle:
Post by: CAMPMEAT on March 19, 2015, 10:35:54 AM
Colorado seems to be my newest spot if I were to more .. Lots of elk- deer and you can run the hell out of the hounds and chase some lions ..But then again Colorado could be the next devastation of a wolf pack :dunno: :bash: :bash:
Geeze, in Colorado, you'd have to watch out for the stoned hunters..... :chuckle:
So then not much of a transition moving from WA? :chuckle:
You're right..... :tup:
Post by: PolarBear on March 19, 2015, 10:40:57 AM
I relocated to Butte MT, I really like SW MT or pretty much all of western MT. It's a great place to live for elk hunting, lots of elk in any direction you go. Being in Butte has been nice for me because it's a more central location and I'm an hour's drive to lots of different kinds of hunting opportunities. Only thing I miss as well is my ocean/salmon/steelhead fishing.Don't worry Ru Paul, Beau and Cody are coming to rescue you! Oh, and big gay Dave! :chuckle:
That being said, I moved here blind with no family or friends. I thought I'd jump head first into it, but quickly realized without any support it really makes hunting and getting out tough when you are 100% by yourself. I'd move to where you have family and/or friends :twocents:
I am seriously looking into Wyoming for retirement.
Post by: JimmyHoffa on March 19, 2015, 10:54:57 AM
There are draw only elk areas along the coast, and private elk ranches in the interior.If you don't like taxes, try Delta Junction, Alaska. No state income tax, no sales tax, no property tax.
I've been there, little too cold for me... :tup:
No elk either, are there?
Post by: Curly on March 25, 2015, 07:50:51 AM
http://time.com/money/3752825/best-state-to-retire/
Post by: Rainier10 on March 25, 2015, 07:59:11 AM
Here is a retirement article on best states for retirement. WY ranks #1, Idaho #4, MT #7.Looks like both are close in ranking.
http://time.com/money/3752825/best-state-to-retire/ (http://time.com/money/3752825/best-state-to-retire/)
I wouldn't do Wyoming unless you have lived there before. The wind can be brutal and constant. In the military it had one of the highest suicide rates and the thought was the wind just drove people to it. Great place to visit and hunt but I wouldn't live there.
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on March 25, 2015, 08:04:46 AM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on March 25, 2015, 08:09:31 AM
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on March 25, 2015, 08:10:49 AM
No trout about that. WY is possibly the best hunting state but the wind to me, and, harsh winters (cold/wind) is a show stopper. No way I could sell Mrs. Phantom on moving to a gale force wind location just cuz the hunting was good for me. Happy wife, happy life is much more than just a few words thrown together ;)
Post by: Curly on March 25, 2015, 08:57:58 AM
I like the weather in Western Washington (I do grow a little tired of the rain at times though) and the article ranked wa state at 40; but the weather is vastly different from western washington to eastern, it seems hard to rank the weather of an entire state (especially a state like this where weather varies so much). New Mexico was ranked at #1 for weather. My wife is from NM and hates how dry it is there and how hot the sun is and prefers the weather here in Washington by far.
They rank WY's weather at #8 and Idaho at #7. I know Sheridan Wy last year had 14" of snow in early September and sub zero temps. Seems to me that Idaho should rank much higher for weather than Wyoming did.
But the table does give some interesting info and if you take a look at what you personally feel about weather or tax rate you can move a state around in ranking to fit your personal preference.
Post by: idaho guy on March 25, 2015, 11:03:30 AM
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on March 25, 2015, 11:43:12 AM
I grew up in Mt and move to Idaho little over 20 years ago. I love both states. Idaho is more conservative and I love that. I also think the Fish & Game is more pro hunter/sportsman in Idaho. With that being said I would still choose Mt . There is a never ending pipeline of people from mainly California moving here and it is getting too crowded for me. Mt still has a lot more wide open spaces.
That seems to be a common theme of Californians moving north and east. That state must be drying up with work or they don't know how to fight wild fires? :dunno:
Post by: idaho guy on March 25, 2015, 12:08:35 PM
I grew up in Mt and move to Idaho little over 20 years ago. I love both states. Idaho is more conservative and I love that. I also think the Fish & Game is more pro hunter/sportsman in Idaho. With that being said I would still choose Mt . There is a never ending pipeline of people from mainly California moving here and it is getting too crowded for me. Mt still has a lot more wide open spaces.
That seems to be a common theme of Californians moving north and east. That state must be drying up with work or they don't know how to fight wild fires? :dunno:
they are running out of water too!
Post by: black hammer on March 25, 2015, 12:16:36 PM
Post by: JimmyHoffa on March 25, 2015, 12:18:14 PM
I've read that 80% of their water goes to ag with about 10% going to rice. I'm trying to think of what the most water intensive crop is? Meanwhile they block lots of desalination plants in/near the coastal cities out of fear that it will lower property values.I grew up in Mt and move to Idaho little over 20 years ago. I love both states. Idaho is more conservative and I love that. I also think the Fish & Game is more pro hunter/sportsman in Idaho. With that being said I would still choose Mt . There is a never ending pipeline of people from mainly California moving here and it is getting too crowded for me. Mt still has a lot more wide open spaces.
That seems to be a common theme of Californians moving north and east. That state must be drying up with work or they don't know how to fight wild fires? :dunno:
they are running out of water too!
Post by: Special T on March 25, 2015, 12:29:34 PM
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on March 25, 2015, 02:28:10 PM
My wife and I were seriously looking to move to either Montana and Idaho also but family and friends is stopping us. Also in both Idaho and Montana you will be paying much more for your vehicle licenses like we used to prior to the Tim Iman initiative. What we need in Washington is for Mt Rainier to blow its top. The mud slide would wipe out lower Pierce and King County and and the liberal, socialist, anti-hunting, anti-gun, anti-American pukes. We also need to get the dumb asses that don't vote to vote.
No need to hold back; tell us how you really feel :chuckle:
Post by: CAMPMEAT on March 25, 2015, 03:06:50 PM
My wife and I were seriously looking to move to either Montana and Idaho also but family and friends is stopping us. Also in both Idaho and Montana you will be paying much more for your vehicle licenses like we used to prior to the Tim Iman initiative. What we need in Washington is for Mt Rainier to blow its top. The mud slide would wipe out lower Pierce and King County and and the liberal, socialist, anti-hunting, anti-gun, anti-American pukes. We also need to get the dumb asses that don't vote to vote.
I think you're on to something..................
Post by: Bean Counter on March 25, 2015, 04:34:39 PM
I've read that 80% of their water goes to ag with about 10% going to rice. I'm trying to think of what the most water intensive crop is? Meanwhile they block lots of desalination plants in/near the coastal cities out of fear that it will lower property values.
they are running out of water too!
I am guessing rice is extremely water intensive. When I was in southeast Asia many moons ago I noticed that rice paddy's are flooded with water, either by design or consequence.
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on March 26, 2015, 08:44:29 AM
My wife and I were seriously looking to move to either Montana and Idaho also but family and friends is stopping us. Also in both Idaho and Montana you will be paying much more for your vehicle licenses like we used to prior to the Tim Iman initiative. What we need in Washington is for Mt Rainier to blow its top. The mud slide would wipe out lower Pierce and King County and and the liberal, socialist, anti-hunting, anti-gun, anti-American pukes. We also need to get the dumb asses that don't vote to vote.
Interesting concept? It may just work?
Post by: Fullabull on March 27, 2015, 01:38:02 PM
Makes for nice dreams :)
Post by: JimmyHoffa on March 27, 2015, 02:16:11 PM
We have about 10 years before retirement but I have been looking at Idaho, Colorado and Oregon for areas to live. Can't figure out if I want to try and buy some land and then build before retiring or wait until then and buy a house and a few acres. Would love to live within about 100 miles max from hunting.I am of the thought, that the earlier you can be approved for a build (not necessarily have anything built) might be the best. Reason I say that is so well capacity is more in your favor. Seems like water use laws get tighter as time goes on, so might get grandfathered in with a more flexible system.
Makes for nice dreams :)
Post by: Special T on March 27, 2015, 02:27:13 PM
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Post by: JimmyHoffa on March 27, 2015, 05:11:54 PM
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on May 29, 2015, 02:46:45 PM
Post by: TVHunts on May 29, 2015, 05:48:00 PM
Best of Luck to you
Post by: Fullabull on May 29, 2015, 08:43:34 PM
Post by: andrew_in_idaho on May 29, 2015, 09:11:57 PM
I've read that 80% of their water goes to ag with about 10% going to rice. I'm trying to think of what the most water intensive crop is? Meanwhile they block lots of desalination plants in/near the coastal cities out of fear that it will lower property values.I grew up in Mt and move to Idaho little over 20 years ago. I love both states. Idaho is more conservative and I love that. I also think the Fish & Game is more pro hunter/sportsman in Idaho. With that being said I would still choose Mt . There is a never ending pipeline of people from mainly California moving here and it is getting too crowded for me. Mt still has a lot more wide open spaces.
That seems to be a common theme of Californians moving north and east. That state must be drying up with work or they don't know how to fight wild fires? :dunno:
they are running out of water too!
The Californians are all moving away because liberal policies have ruined a once great state, they move to idaho or Montana where the money from selling their starter homes in Cali can buy them a mansion in ID/MT, then they go about their business of voting for liberals and ruining once great states. After they are done ruining ID/MT then they will probably do Wyoming and the Dakotas. Eventually the only place they will be able to go is Mexico and essentially we will let the Mexicans have the scraps of this country.
Oh and they would actually have enough water in Cali if they weren't trying to supply a population 3X the size it was the last time they allowed a dam to be built. Also doesn't help that nestle has the largest water bottling plant in the world down there
Post by: RadSav on May 29, 2015, 10:05:13 PM
I asked Mrs. Phantom to poke around for homes/property where she would be happy living in one of several mountain states and she's locked in like a pitbull with a bone on the Sandpoint, ID area.
I like the Sand Point area. Have a few friends that have retired there. But I thought you said you wanted "More Conservative" and "No Wind"! Not so sure Sand Point fits those descriptions. :dunno:
Post by: trophyhunt on May 29, 2015, 11:55:29 PM
Post by: elk247 on May 30, 2015, 01:38:32 AM
My wife and I were seriously looking to move to either Montana and Idaho also but family and friends is stopping us. Also in both Idaho and Montana you will be paying much more for your vehicle licenses like we used to prior to the Tim Iman initiative. What we need in Washington is for Mt Rainier to blow its top. The mud slide would wipe out lower Pierce and King County and and the liberal, socialist, anti-hunting, anti-gun, anti-American pukes. We also need to get the dumb asses that don't vote to vote.You can always make new friends. I hear northern Couer D' Alene is affordable. :rolleyes: