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Title: is white tail only legal in eastern WA? (modern firearm)
Post by: police women of America on March 18, 2015, 08:47:44 PM
So I was looking over the WDFW hunting guide and I looked at modern firearm general deer seasons and I didn't see any GMU's 400-700 I only saw them in the 100's. so my question is can you only white tail hunt in Eastern Washington?!? what's going on!  :dunno:
Title: Re: is white tail only legal in eastern WA? (modern firearm)
Post by: jrebel on March 18, 2015, 08:50:00 PM
There aren't any whitetail in Western Washington.  OK...OK... I am sure someone will say they saw one at one point, but in general Western Washington is only populated by blacktail deer.
Title: Re: is white tail only legal in eastern WA? (modern firearm)
Post by: police women of America on March 18, 2015, 08:52:17 PM
There aren't any whitetail in Western Washington.  OK...OK... I am sure someone will say they saw one at one point, but in general Western Washington is only populated by blacktail deer.
There aren't any whitetail in Western Washington.  OK...OK... I am sure someone will say they saw one at one point, but in general Western Washington is only populated by blacktail deer.

really? wow I cant believe I didn't know that. that's going to change my hunting season.
Title: Re: is white tail only legal in eastern WA? (modern firearm)
Post by: benhuntin on March 18, 2015, 08:52:30 PM

There aren't any whitetail in Western Washington.  OK...OK... I am sure someone will say they saw one at one point, but in general Western Washington is only populated by blacktail deer.
there are a few white tail and they are protected.
Title: Re: is white tail only legal in eastern WA? (modern firearm)
Post by: actionshooter on March 18, 2015, 08:52:59 PM
There aren't any whitetail in Western Washington.  OK...OK... I am sure someone will say they saw one at one point, but in general Western Washington is only populated by blacktail deer.


And Columbia whitetail..... :chuckle: I had to be the "one"
Title: Re: is white tail only legal in eastern WA? (modern firearm)
Post by: benhuntin on March 18, 2015, 08:53:36 PM
Columbia whitetail
Title: Re: is white tail only legal in eastern WA? (modern firearm)
Post by: Igor on March 18, 2015, 09:02:45 PM
There aren't any whitetail in Western Washington.  OK...OK... I am sure someone will say they saw one at one point, but in general Western Washington is only populated by blacktail deer.

....................and sasquatches.
Title: Re: is white tail only legal in eastern WA? (modern firearm)
Post by: RB on March 18, 2015, 09:15:28 PM
I know I will get bashed for this because I cannot produce a picture, but three years ago while doing a tour of the Kangaroo farm in Arlington there was a Whitetail doe hanging around. I asked the owners of the Kangaroo farm if they had brought it in and they said no it just showed up one day and is free roaming around the area.

I now the difference between the three Deer I can shoot (have shot all three) and know for a fact it was a Whitetail. With that I would believe that since it is not specified in the game regulations it would not be legal to shoot.  :twocents:
Title: Re: is white tail only legal in eastern WA? (modern firearm)
Post by: police women of America on March 18, 2015, 09:19:34 PM
So is there a big difference hunting black tail compared to white tail? I mean ill I've ever studied is white tails and now I'm completely lost. anything helps thanks.
Title: Re: is white tail only legal in eastern WA? (modern firearm)
Post by: tonymiller7 on March 19, 2015, 11:33:48 AM
I have also seen whitetails around the Morton area in the late 80s and early 90s.  Having spoken to some locals around there it was an area that NW trek would deposit whitetails when they would get too many.  I have also witnessed some blacktail bucks come out of this area that appeared to be hybrids.  I no longer hunt this area and do not know if NW trek still deposits deer here but I would assume that it is out of the range for a Columbia Whitetail, additionally they appeared to be of normal size not small like the Columbias.
Title: Re: is white tail only legal in eastern WA? (modern firearm)
Post by: Bob33 on March 19, 2015, 11:49:58 AM
The simple answer to the OP's question is that "it depends". The general deer seasons are explicit in what type of deer may be taken, and there are not westside GMUs that allow whitetail deer to be harvested. However, many special permits allow "any deer", "3 pt or better", "any buck", or "anterless deer" without limitations on specie. In these instances, a whitetail could be legally hunted and killed.
Title: Re: is white tail only legal in eastern WA? (modern firearm)
Post by: police women of America on March 19, 2015, 12:08:28 PM
The simple answer to the OP's question is that "it depends". The general deer seasons are explicit in what type of deer may be taken, and there are not westside GMUs that allow whitetail deer to be harvested. However, many special permits allow "any deer", "3 pt or better", "any buck", or "anterless deer" without limitations on specie. In these instances, a whitetail could be legally hunted and killed.

interesting. thanks!
Title: Re: is white tail only legal in eastern WA? (modern firearm)
Post by: fishngamereaper on March 19, 2015, 12:27:12 PM
So is there a big difference hunting black tail compared to white tail? I mean ill I've ever studied is white tails and now I'm completely lost. anything helps thanks.

Short answer yes...Blacktail are a lot harder to hunt and have a longer learning curve.  There are a lot of posts on HW reference blacktails, habitat, etc. And some good books floating around. Its hard to study blacktails without being in the woods though. Been hunting them for 30 years and still learning them.
Title: Re: is white tail only legal in eastern WA? (modern firearm)
Post by: Bofire on March 19, 2015, 12:32:18 PM
Page 16 and 18 say that by definition the term "whitetail deer" does not include Columbian Whitetail. I always found it funny that all Blacktail live west of the Cascade summit and all the Mule deer live east of it. (same definition pages)
Carl
Title: Re: is white tail only legal in eastern WA? (modern firearm)
Post by: Southpole on March 19, 2015, 12:36:28 PM
I know I will get bashed for this because I cannot produce a picture, but three years ago while doing a tour of the Kangaroo farm in Arlington there was a Whitetail doe hanging around. I asked the owners of the Kangaroo farm if they had brought it in and they said no it just showed up one day and is free roaming around the area.

I now the difference between the three Deer I can shoot (have shot all three) and know for a fact it was a Whitetail. With that I would believe that since it is not specified in the game regulations it would not be legal to shoot.  :twocents:
I'll back you on that B
Title: Re: is white tail only legal in eastern WA? (modern firearm)
Post by: Buck Rub Jr on March 19, 2015, 01:48:54 PM
I have also seen whitetails around the Morton area in the late 80s and early 90s.  Having spoken to some locals around there it was an area that NW trek would deposit whitetails when they would get too many.  I have also witnessed some blacktail bucks come out of this area that appeared to be hybrids.  I no longer hunt this area and do not know if NW trek still deposits deer here but I would assume that it is out of the range for a Columbia Whitetail, additionally they appeared to be of normal size not small like the Columbias.
My dad told me a story about seeing one in Mineral around that time frame and his buddy saw one in packwood as well!
Title: Re: is white tail only legal in eastern WA? (modern firearm)
Post by: huntnfmly on March 19, 2015, 04:32:21 PM
Srry but nw trek did not deposit whitetails in morton area. When they had to many they had a sniper from ft. Lewis come in and thin the heard. I do believe the locals did see whitetails tho.
Title: Re: is white tail only legal in eastern WA? (modern firearm)
Post by: Colville on March 20, 2015, 09:04:33 AM
The simple answer to the OP's question is that "it depends". The general deer seasons are explicit in what type of deer may be taken, and there are not westside GMUs that allow whitetail deer to be harvested. However, many special permits allow "any deer", "3 pt or better", "any buck", or "anterless deer" without limitations on specie. In these instances, a whitetail could be legally hunted and killed.

Page 81 of last year's regs:

8. Endangered Species:
It is illegal to hunt, possess, or control protected
wildlife or endangered species. Endangered species
are: pygmy rabbit; fisher; gray wolf; grizzly bear;
sea otter; sei, fin, blue, humpback, black right, killer
(orca) and sperm whales; Columbian white-tailed
deer; woodland caribou;.......

Even if your permit says "any deer" you'd better take that to mean antlerless blacktail are included rather than includes whitetail.  Or be prepared to prove that the WWA whitetail in your possession is a non columbian species.   
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