Post by: acnewman55 on March 19, 2015, 12:17:53 PM
I know that components can be hard to come by, so I figured I'd start keeping eyes out for them when I'm at my local shops.
I'm curious which powders are commonly used for reloading 223 for Semi-autos?
Post by: h20hunter on March 19, 2015, 12:20:36 PM
Post by: 300rum on March 19, 2015, 12:24:00 PM
Post by: stevemiller on March 19, 2015, 12:42:07 PM
Post by: JimmyHoffa on March 19, 2015, 12:50:29 PM
Post by: Jingles on March 19, 2015, 01:01:58 PM
As an examplefor Sierria 60grain Hp for 223 you can use any of the following"
Viht N130
IMR4198
Viht1 N133
RE-7
IMR3031
H322
AA-2230
748
H335
BL-C(2)
IMR-4895
Viht N135
IMR 4064
IMR 4320
Some of the above powders will give you speeds out to 3100 FPS with average being in the 2900 FPS range
The sierra recommended load for accuracy is 25 grain of 748 and the hunting load is IMR 4320 25.4 grains
So a lot is going to depend on what you want to shoot and what is available and how serious you want to get into accuracy / hunting and reloading
So breaking it all down to one simple sentence . There is not one universal powder for reloading regardless of what some say...
Disclaimer the above information was taken from the Sierra Rifle reloading Manual 4th Edition
Post by: andersonjk4 on March 19, 2015, 01:02:39 PM
Post by: actionshooter on March 19, 2015, 02:15:32 PM
I have had good luck with H322 and Win 748 in the past also.
The powder somewhat depends on what bullet you want to shoot.
Post by: DJ_Mack on March 19, 2015, 02:28:19 PM
Post by: thinkingman on March 19, 2015, 02:39:28 PM
Varget is my first choice.Varget is probably the most useful rifle powder there is.
Benchmark is another.
Post by: 300rum on March 19, 2015, 02:51:36 PM
The first powder I used for .223, was Western Powders X-Terminator with 55gr v-max bullets. I hunt small game with it and target shoot. I found that 22gr gave me sub moa groupings. But I was a newbie and only bought 1lb. Just remember that depending on how much you want to reload depends on how much powder you use. I wish I would have bought as much of it as possible, because I have yet to see it since. It metered well and shot great. Whatever you use you will want to buy enough that you can have it on hand. Now, I have to go through and find out what powder grains I need for whatever powders I can find. Takes a lot of time. Good luck.
Post by: b23 on March 19, 2015, 04:12:21 PM
I've used a lot of Benchmark. It's an excellent powder choice for bullets up to about 55 grains. It'll work for heavier bullets than that but there are better powder choices for the 55 and over bullets.
H335, Win748, Ramshot TAC, are all good universal powders that can cover a wide range of bullet weights, well.
Varget is a good powder and usually produces good accuracy but it's bulky and the 223 case is small so you can't hardly get enough of it in the case to produce very good velocities. It'll work if that's all you have but there are certainly better powders to use in a 223.
Post by: jrebel on March 19, 2015, 06:10:40 PM
.....it will exceed volocities of other powder max loads.
Post by: Hunting7mm on March 19, 2015, 06:32:36 PM
Post by: usmc74 on March 19, 2015, 07:45:59 PM
1:8 twist, 77 gr SMK, 24.1 gr RL-15.
I have hit all 10's at 600 yards. Not the fastest, but consistent.
Check the reloading page here: http://www.njhighpower.com/ (http://www.njhighpower.com/)
Post by: lokidog on March 19, 2015, 09:23:20 PM
I shoot my AR for competition
1:8 twist, 77 gr SMK, 24.1 gr RL-15.
I have hit all 10's at 600 yards. Not the fastest, but consistent.
Check the reloading page here: http://www.njhighpower.com/ (http://www.njhighpower.com/)
Thanks, I need to try some heavier bullets in my 1:8.
Post by: stevemiller on March 19, 2015, 11:50:57 PM
I shoot my AR for competition1) where do you compete?
1:8 twist, 77 gr SMK, 24.1 gr RL-15.
I have hit all 10's at 600 yards. Not the fastest, but consistent.
Check the reloading page here: http://www.njhighpower.com/ (http://www.njhighpower.com/)
2)where do you get 77 gr.?
Post by: carpsniperg2 on March 20, 2015, 02:40:58 AM
Post by: usmc74 on March 20, 2015, 04:46:55 AM
I shoot my AR for competition1) where do you compete?
1:8 twist, 77 gr SMK, 24.1 gr RL-15.
I have hit all 10's at 600 yards. Not the fastest, but consistent.
Check the reloading page here: http://www.njhighpower.com/ (http://www.njhighpower.com/)
2)where do you get 77 gr.?
Cascade range in Ravensdale has the 600 yard range, SVRC has a 200 yd informal shoot every month. I usually hit a few shoots at each place during the year.
Sierra match king 77 gr....bought my last 500 at Pintos in Renton. The 77 is the longest you can load to magazine length. Most shoot 80 gr at 600, because you singleload . I just make 1 load, so I don't bring the wrong box to the line.
Post by: stevemiller on March 20, 2015, 11:45:51 AM
Post by: usmc74 on March 20, 2015, 08:57:17 PM
Great place to learn (no pressure) They shoot all at 200 yards (target size gets smaller to simulate distance)
They help you learn the positions and procedures...might assign someone to help/coach. Just let them know you are a beginner. Don't get all your shots off in time...you can finish as a alibi
Bring an AR15 (closest to looking "stock") Iron sights, web sling,at least 2 magazines (I use straight 20 rd mags), something to lay on, 70 rds ammo or so. You get practice shots. I often use M193 ammo here
10 shots standing, slow fire (single load) 10 minutes
10 shots sitting, rapid fire (incl mag change) 1 minute
10 shots prone, rapid fire (incl mag change) 1 minute
20 shots prone, slow fire (single load) 20 minutes
http://www.svrifle.org/CMP_High-Power.html (http://www.svrifle.org/CMP_High-Power.html)
Post by: thinkingman on March 21, 2015, 12:43:50 PM
HSM factory loads.
PM me if you're interested.
Post by: magnumb on April 01, 2015, 09:15:37 AM
H335 meters like water and can be used for a wide range of bullet weights and is very accurate. Varget is a good powder but feels like grinding your teeth when you meter it.
My thinking, as well.
Bullet weight and powder choice also bears consideration. 50gr.-55gr. V-Max's over H335 does offer plenty to smile about when the 'red mist' flies........ ;).
Post by: 300rum on April 01, 2015, 10:33:20 AM
H335 meters like water and can be used for a wide range of bullet weights and is very accurate. Varget is a good powder but feels like grinding your teeth when you meter it.
My thinking, as well.
Bullet weight and powder choice also bears consideration. 50gr.-55gr. V-Max's over H335 does offer plenty to smile about when the 'red mist' flies........ ;).
Post by: magnumb on April 01, 2015, 01:15:11 PM
I'm thinking, like you have experienced, H335 can do most everything, sans the twist concerns. If you want to drive yourself nuts 'cuz you're 'throwin' 'em and thinkin' it's you, don't figure your twist into the equation....... :)
Or.......send some of those 50gr. SSXT's (if I remember correctly) downrange and have nothing on the target..... :yike:. I had a buddy then shoot the same load in my AR and watched to the side and saw that pill evaporate at approx. 80yds downrange. A puff of grey smoke and I had my answer....to a few things....... :tup: After collecting that particular target, I could have used it as a coffee filter there was so many tiny holes from the 'shrapnel' of my "where in the hell did those rounds go" dilema.