Hunting Washington Forum
Other Hunting => Coyote, Small Game, Varmints => Topic started by: stlhedr29 on March 20, 2015, 10:24:34 AM
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Hello everyone! Ive been yote huntin for about 2 years now and have only takin down two so far. Im still learning all the tricks of the trade and always will be. most people give me a funny look in disgust when I tell them I hunt yotes but tthat will never change my ways. sofar ive been hitn mostly state land outside of my ton but lookin too hed more towards the coast. think areas around me have been hit hard by others and making them call shy or something. If anybody know of areas that I can try west of longview, wa to the beach let me know. Thanks for reading and any help would be much appreciated.
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Westside coyote huntng can be tough. On one hand sound doesn't carry as well and there are more obstacles getting in the way of a yote getting from there to here. On the otherhand loud rabbit calls are usually Jack Rabbit calls and no westside dog knows what that is. And you really need to get quite close if you are going to use a rodent call with any success. But, those rodent calls are fantastic for westside dogs.
I find it best to eliminate the middle ground calls. Using rodent or small bird distress but also be willing to break out the fawn in distress call as well. Don't forget westside vermin have itty bitty lungs. So little short bursts with lots of emotion. Shaking and smothering not a bad idea after 10 minutes or so does help as well.
There are coyotes dang near everywhere between Longview and the coast. Hard to find a clear cut that doesn't have coyote sign in it. So hard to go wrong anywhere thats legal and not private property. One of my favorite setups on the west side is to find an old skid road with some high cut banks. I set up on top of the bank overlooking the old skidder grade.
As spring approaches it really starts to get easy to find fresh coyote sign. Not only will this sign be close to dens, but with the increase of baby birds and bunnies there will be plenty of easily identifiable sign. Myself, I'd bet well over 60% of my westside dogs have been called in after finding the fresh remnants of an eaten bird. I get in position and start off with simple lip squeaks. If nothing after ten minutes of that I then make the switch to the louder calls.
PM or calling Bearmanric probably would not be a bad idea either. :tup:
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I've noticed over the past three or four years the 'yote population has exploded in areas with large hoof rot deaths. Winston is loaded with them! Try marking down accessible areas both east and west of you that are having a large die off. I haven't hunted them in a few years there, but we have been seeing and hearing A LOT of them. Last year driving out in the dark we had a pack in the middle of the road in front of us. Next corner we drove around there was a cow so hobbled by hoof rot she weighed about 1/3rd her normal weight and could not get out of the road. We stopped and let her try and get over without feeling threatened. She made it to the ditch and just laid down. Pretty sure it wasn't long before she became 'yote dinner. I might try some fawn distress calling in those areas and see what that produces.
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Hey thanks for the info radsav. I will definitely try some of those tactics. I haven't really seen much hoof rot on west side of I5. And I never got the weyco permit for St. Helens tree farm so I stayed away from all that area. I have some decent maps but trying to find out what land is private before driving all the way out there and wasting gas was my big concern.
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Maybe try something like this. :dunno: I have a buddy that has an app like this and it has a ton of good landowner info.
http://www.huntinggpsmaps.com/store/hunt-mobile-apps#.VQxtxo7F_Qk (http://www.huntinggpsmaps.com/store/hunt-mobile-apps#.VQxtxo7F_Qk)
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Maybe try something like this. :dunno: I have a buddy that has an app like this and it has a ton of good landowner info.
http://www.huntinggpsmaps.com/store/hunt-mobile-apps#.VQxtxo7F_Qk (http://www.huntinggpsmaps.com/store/hunt-mobile-apps#.VQxtxo7F_Qk)
That is a good tool. It is the same as the GPS chip. The benefit of going with the GPS solution rather than the app is that the app generally requires cell service, whereas the GPS chip does not.
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I upgraded my HuntingMapsGPS chip in my Garmin this past year.
I was disappointed. There were a number of land parcels that they didn't have land ownership listed. On the old chip, the ownership of said parcels was listed. I know for certain one of the parcels had not changed ownership and was on the old chip.
I got a hold of them and got pretty much, "sorry about that" but that was all. I can go right down to the county court house and get the info, so its not like you cant find out. I just don't think they tried very hard to make it complete.
If I had my old chip, I'd put it back in, but they made me send it in for the upgrade.
These chips went from being a great item to a mediocre product at best.
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With the price of beef right now id talk to anyone with cattle and try and get permission to hunt. That or find public land near the cattle. If there is cattle there are coyotes
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Most of the county auditors have all the info you need on land ownership on line. I keep my computer in the truck and have my own mobile hotspot so I can check land ownership while I'm out there. I usually map an area I want to hunt and then do a land search before I ever leave the house or in camp at night for the next day. In 99.0% of the time the county auditor is up to date, none of the maps or computer chips are but they are great for showing property lines and most of the major public land. If it says it's public but there is a pasture or crop field it pays to double check.
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:) I find auditors records to be about 4-6 months late. I never call on the first visit, set up your approach plan, by then you'll know who owns what.
Carl
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I have tried changing my tactics with little success and keep coming back to one thing: The reason you see more coyotes charging to the call in any desert area of the country is you can see them. Combine that with it being impossible to get away from people in W. WA and you have a bad combination for calling. When I do call one, I'm doing the same thing as in open country. It's hard to call around motorcycles, dog walkers, garbage dumpers, and target shooters. Don't give up.
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i do a lot of calling on the west side and some thing to keep in mind is we have a lot of big predators here like bear and cougar so if they run rite in they are taking a chance of becoming the next meal where i do a lot of calling they figure 1.4 bears per square mile ,when we are calling coyotes i find an area in the woods that is fairly open and i put the shooter off to the side then i move up wind from that spot about 40 yards and when the coyote swings down wind of me ,hopefully the shooter can get a shot ,i also have had good luck calling on corners ,i will call like crazy for three minutes then sit quite ,they have a hard time pin pointing the sound and some times will run rite to you,i see most of the coyotes in the first ten minutes ,our coyotes and bobcat eat a lot of mountain beaver ,find a hill that has a lot of creeks on it and it will usually have a lot of mountain beaver ,and this time of year the mountain beaver that haven't put there dens high enough get flooded out and they are easy picking for the predators ,we shot a bobcat a few weeks ago that was sitting staring at a flooded mountain beaver hole
