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Title: Little late season blacktail rub
Post by: h20hunter on March 22, 2015, 11:43:07 AM: Not a bad little rub. This was done later that I would expect because it wasn't there very long ago.
Title: Re: Little late season blacktail rub
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on March 22, 2015, 05:38:24 PM: That's a good rub :tup:
Title: Re: Little late season blacktail rub
Post by: fishnfur on March 22, 2015, 11:33:04 PM: Hard to imagine that was rubbed much later than early January. Any real idea how long ago it occurred?

Nice rub. Tore the snot out of that tree!
Title: Re: Little late season blacktail rub
Post by: huntingbaldguy on March 23, 2015, 02:01:12 AM: I found a whole series of semi fresh rubs last week that really surprised me. There were probably 20 saplings that had been nailed like this in 100 yards right off a trail. Thinking back i probably should have looked for a shed.

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Title: Re: Little late season blacktail rub
Post by: fishngamereaper on March 23, 2015, 02:10:28 AM: Look for teeth marks on those new looking ones. Possible those are from a hungry bear. They love to eat bark from young trees. I see those all the time, especially over on the Coyle and up by Quilecene.
Title: Re: Little late season blacktail rub
Post by: huntingbaldguy on March 23, 2015, 02:43:01 AM: You could be right, that was in the olympics.
Title: Re: Little late season blacktail rub
Post by: h20hunter on March 23, 2015, 07:38:50 AM: Quote from: fishnfur on March 22, 2015, 11:33:04 PM
Hard to imagine that was rubbed much later than early January. Any real idea how long ago it occurred?

Nice rub. Tore the snot out of that tree!

I'm not sure. Its been about a month or so since I checked the cams. I guess I could have missed it but I doubt it. The path in is only a few feet wide and you can't miss it.
Title: Re: Little late season blacktail rub
Post by: bowtechian on March 23, 2015, 01:48:50 PM: Don't bears usually take off 360° of the bark on the trees? If you find it truely is deer rubs probably sign post just outside a bedding area
Title: Re: Little late season blacktail rub
Post by: h20hunter on March 23, 2015, 01:59:43 PM: There are mass trails and bedding areas around this rub. I also know the deer use this old over grown skid road kind of like an interstate. There are many old rubs along here...just none this big.
Title: Re: Little late season blacktail rub
Post by: kodiak 907 on March 23, 2015, 05:30:49 PM: I went back to the area where I shot my buck this year . It was hit really hard again in mid January. I guess I am gonna be camping on that spot again next year!
Title: Re: Little late season blacktail rub
Post by: The scout on March 23, 2015, 05:43:18 PM: not trying to start an argument but that rub does not look fresh at all to me. maybe it's just the lighting :dunno:
Title: Re: Little late season blacktail rub
Post by: h20hunter on March 23, 2015, 05:58:30 PM: Mine? Nope, not that fresh. I was wondering how long black tails will rub.....is there a 2nd late season rut that kicks in....that kind of thing.
Title: Re: Little late season blacktail rub
Post by: kodiak 907 on March 23, 2015, 07:31:11 PM: I saw a pretty decent three point making a rub and scraping in late December. He was definitely rutted up. Probably after some of the does that didn't get bred during the first cycle.
Title: Re: Little late season blacktail rub
Post by: The scout on March 23, 2015, 07:45:16 PM: oh sorry I thought you were saying it was fresh. around here the last rubs seem to occur late November. my buddys that archery hunt up in the Skagit are chasing rutting bucks up till December, witch means they are probably seeing the last rubs like second week of dec.
Title: Re: Little late season blacktail rub
Post by: fishnfur on March 24, 2015, 08:26:04 AM: I always check for hairs on the rub, especially if I think it is a new one. Down here, Elk continue to rub throughout the winter, especially on Sitka Spruce if it is available. Other conifer get beat up too. The DNR biologist explained it that the groups of raghorns are like a bunch of teenage boys, just breaking stuff 'cause it's fun. One hair found caught in the bark paints a better picture of the culprit responsible for the rub.

Statistically, I think the books say that 99% of does have been bred by mid-December, and something like 99.9% of the does are bred by the end of December. That leaves one doe out of a thousand still going through estrous cycles by the start of the new year. I'm guessing that single buck may still be making or freshening rubs at this time, but probably not too much later than that.
Title: Re: Little late season blacktail rub
Post by: _DarkTimber_ on March 25, 2015, 09:30:07 PM: This is where my cam is sitting, this was 2 weeks ago when I set it up. Going back this weekend to check it see if I caught a pic of him. Just 100 feet away there was some real fresh rub, I'm talking green on a maple. Excited to see what he looks like...
Title: Re: Little late season blacktail rub
Post by: _DarkTimber_ on March 25, 2015, 09:32:14 PM: Quote from: kodiak 907 on March 23, 2015, 05:30:49 PM
I went back to the area where I shot my buck this year . It was hit really hard again in mid January. I guess I am gonna be camping on that spot again next year!
That's gonna be a nice looking buck for sure
Title: Re: Little late season blacktail rub
Post by: merlo105 on March 26, 2015, 01:44:10 PM: Bucks will rub from the day they lose there velvet to the day they lose there antlers. You'll see more rub sign in the rut where there scent marking there territory. Those are all deer rubs and none are Bear peelings. If there are doe's that aren't bred they can go in a second estrus getting some bucks to stay rutty and marking up the area. Good Luck Them are some area's worth having a camera at for sure.
Title: Re: Little late season blacktail rub
Post by: magnumb on April 03, 2015, 06:41:28 PM: Quote from: kodiak 907 on March 23, 2015, 05:30:49 PM
I went back to the area where I shot my buck this year . It was hit really hard again in mid January. I guess I am gonna be camping on that spot again next year!

Wow!!!

If you weren't so sure that these were buck rubs, I'd guess elk or bear were the culprits. I've seen some large impressive deer rubs over the last 4 decades, but never so many so close nor that individually large. That the rubs are on large, very mature alders is also a bit different in my experience.

My suggestion.........use a .338 and take a pack mule with ya.

Incredible rubs....... :yike: Best of luck next season....... :tup:
Title: Re: Little late season blacktail rub
Post by: kodiak 907 on April 03, 2015, 07:03:22 PM: I shot my buck this year while he was tearing up those alders. I thought he was the only big buck using that spot.

I was wrong, those alders were tore up again late in the year.

My 2014 BT.
Title: Re: Little late season blacktail rub
Post by: magnumb on April 03, 2015, 07:07:26 PM: What a beautiful buck......really! It's headgear is very impressive.

Nice job and it's no wonder that you are so fond of this particular spot.

Good luck next season...... :).