Post by: 92xj on March 29, 2015, 02:46:44 PM
Three dog stove by fourdog stoves
Woodstove hearth for the stove to sit on by snowtrekker tents
Heat shield with velcro stitched on by snowtrekker tents
Stove jack and cover flap by Yakima tent and awning
Heavy duty tent stakes by Monk Industries
Solar inflatable lanterns by luminAID
Adjustable brush pole to hold up awning by Lowes
Metal tray hearth and stove sit in is an oil drip catch pan by Oreillys Auto
Outside stove support by myself
I wanted a canvas tent for all my camping needs, from hunting in the fall and winter to spring and summer family trips. I am always prepared to do any of my outings alone and go solo so I wanted something that I could put up as quickly as possible by myself. This is the reason I went with the Kodiak Canvas. It's a five minute process that is stupid easy to set up.
I knew I wanted a wood stove at some point and researched as much as possible and concluded the fourdog's are about the best that you can get for the price range so I ordered one up. Then the fun part of setting the tent up in the yard, marking the exhaust by drawing a circle and then driving to Yakima Tent and Awning and explaining exactly what I wanted. They nailed it with exactly what I wanted, high quality work and great customer service.
I thought with the slanted walls that the wall would get too close for comfort to the stove pipe before exiting the tent. I called snowtrekker and asked what they thought and they recommended the heat shield and said he could sew in velcro that I could then glue on the other side of the velcro with Bish's tear mender. That stuff is amazing. I installed the heat shield and fired up the stove, The shield never got hot at all and I would feel safe without it, but I like the insurance.
The following pictures show everything how I have it set up for family camping. Two adults with 4 dogs all over 70 pounds. We all fit great in the tent. We have a double stack queen air mattress for us and 3 large dog beds for the dogs. The last dog sleeps on the carpet we have for when we walk into the tent.
Hopefully these pictures explain everything I have listed above and answer some questions a lot of people have been asking me. Please continue to ask any questions you'd like and I will answer them the best I can.
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Post by: 92xj on March 29, 2015, 07:24:00 PM
Great set up. How do you rate/review the Luminaids?
They are pretty sweet. Enough light to light the inside of the tent at night. We kept them on the poles to help us and the pups not hit the poles and lines at night. The solar charger is awesome. I never saw a decrease in light like the battery was going down after hours of being on. The inflatable part is awesome and needed for the lantern effect. They stayed in the rain all night and had no issues. I received these as a gift but depending on price I would like to pick up a few for the boat. I would recommend them for sure.
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Post by: 92xj on March 30, 2015, 08:30:14 AM
How did you like the stove in that location? Was it in your way entering and exiting the tent?
I was at a battle with myself on stove location but eventually concluded that was the best location. Once all set up I realized it was not in my way at all. I knew I wanted it by a door incase anything happened I could grab and throw, kick, etc the stove out a door. That gave me two location options. If I went with the back door I was then forced to place the queen air mattress in front of the front door which the width completely covers, so that wouldn't work. I could have gone to the back corner on the same side of the tent but that was not close to a door and if I did that the dog beds would be right at the front door and during hunting season, the second cot would have had to cover the front door and we would have to use the back door which would be limited by half a cot width in front of it. After configuring the tent in all my hunting and family setup ways, this location was the best. We had no issues walking into the tent and bumping it or having to make an awkward movement to avoid it. The dogs also never bumped it and I figured they would be the ultimate test of location. All in all, I think it is placed in the best location for us and the use of a queen mattress inside the tent.
Post by: bracer40 on March 30, 2015, 09:09:32 AM
Post by: 92xj on March 30, 2015, 11:19:39 AM
I'm curious why you had snow trekker do the heat shield instead of Yakima doing both the jack and the shield?
The reason was it was an after thought and I didn't feel like driving the hour back up to Yakima tent to purchase a heat shield(if they had one, I never asked so I don't know).
I did know that I didn't want a permanent heat shield. So a Velcro option was what I wanted. I know Yakima tent could have sewn in the Velcro strips but while talking on the phone with snowtrekker they mentioned bishs tear mender and said it was the cats meow, and they were correct.
So, how it went was this....
I had Yakima tent install stove jack.
I got tent back from Yakima tent and set it up in the yard.
Put together the wood stove and with out having any experience from a wood stove before I wasn't sure how much heat would be thrown from the bottom and damage the floor in the tent.
I started research fire mats and found snowtrekker had the perfect size fire hearth to fit inside the metal pan I got at the auto parts store.
While talking with them I questioned how close a wall can be to the stove pipe and talked with them. He said he would feel safer with a heat shield installed. He explained what it was, I sent him some pictures of the tent and he said he could cut and sew the Velcro on.
Being that I had spent a few phone calls, emails and picture sharing with snowtrekker, I wanted to give them the business because of their customer service and support. Even though I got great service and support with Yakima tent, they weren't in the initial conversation about the heat shield.
Hopefully that makes sense and allowed you into my thoughts.
Post by: 92xj on March 30, 2015, 11:33:44 AM
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Post by: bracer40 on March 30, 2015, 01:49:44 PM
Really appreciate the detailed replies. I'm much clearer on how to go about this now.
Post by: 92xj on March 30, 2015, 02:04:53 PM
92xj,
Really appreciate the detailed replies. I'm much clearer on how to go about this now.
Not a problem. Continue to ask questions as they come up. I had a ton of questions and could not find a single person to answer them. The only other Kodiak with a stove jack I've seen is a guy on monstermuleys but never got in contact to be able to ask questions. I put in many hours a day for months researching the things I've spent my hard earned money on and want to help people spend their money wisely and not make the mistakes in the beginning. Please continue to ask things and I'll do what I can to answer.
Post by: elkinrutdrivemenuts on March 30, 2015, 02:51:36 PM
I would recommend budgeting between $95 and $150 depending on the size, flap, clips, etc for the stove jack. I did all my initial contacting and asking of quotes via email with Yakima tent and had responses very quickly. Once I figured exactly what I wanted and had the spare funds I called and did the phone thing with great response.
That is much cheaper than a wall tent with a stove jack and these are much easier and quicker to set up! I like the idea running the pipe out the side, with the built in overhead storage net, you can set your wet clothes out directly above the stove with out a pipe in the way. Im already looking forward to hunting season and having wood heat!
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Post by: 92xj on April 05, 2015, 06:50:23 AM
Tell me more about the tent stakes and the adjustable pole for the awning. I have this same tent.
The pole is just an extendable pole that a car wash brush head would screw on to or a painter pole like bracer mentioned, nothing fancy just something to hold the awning up to clear head space and to keep rain from pooling.
The stakes are awesome. I knew I needed heavy duty ones when I camped in a snopark parking area that was very large gravel. Driving the factory ones in worked about 50% of the time and bent them pretty good. The stakes I bought can be driven into anything including asphalt. Take a look at their website, they make some great quality stuff. They also supply our military with their stake needs around the world.
Post by: calib on April 16, 2015, 07:40:56 PM
Liked the details of your experiences. Glad i found this thread, i have been wondering for a while if the flew bow would take a stove. I am planning to buy a 10x14 in the next month or two and will have to look in to getting this done to it. How much room does all your camping set up take in a truck bed
Post by: 92xj on April 22, 2015, 06:07:19 AM
92xj
Liked the details of your experiences. Glad i found this thread, i have been wondering for a while if the flew bow would take a stove. I am planning to buy a 10x14 in the next month or two and will have to look in to getting this done to it. How much room does all your camping set up take in a truck bed
Space in the bed of the truck, I have no idea. When we go camping 4 dogs get the bed of the truck, with the smallest being 65ish pounds. I will put a small stack of firewood back there with them.
I put all the camping gear inside the cab. I drive a crewcab Titan and fold the rear seat up. The tent folds into a 20"x20"x10ish bag and the poles are 4 feet long by 6" with them in their bag. The wood stove fits back there along with the coleman 3 burner cooking stove, our two camp chairs, air mattress or cot and bed roll depending on who is going. Clothes bags, boots, and everything else we take. When I am going on a hunting trip without the pups and family, camping stuff still goes in the cab and the bed gets the coolers, stands, bow target, etc. If I packed all my stuff in the bed of the truck, which is only 5'8" I believe, I would say it would take up 50% of the width, and only go up to the bed rail.
Next Friday the truck will be packed with all our stuff for a 3 day adventure, I will take some pics of it packed and post them, so you can get a better visual of the space. For what I have and take I am very pleased with the space it takes up. I tried to take as much as possible to make it as nice and pleasant a camping trip I can for the family. I don't want them to have a crapola experience ever so I make sure that doesn't happen with all the junk I take.
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Post by: ghosthunter on June 11, 2015, 12:26:29 PM
Now that I have it installed and got experience with it, I wouldn't of needed to install one. I fired up the stove as hot as I could get it for an hour and kept feeling the hearth, heat shield and the door. The hearth underneath got a little warm but never even close to hot, the door and its wall was room temperature and the heat shield never got hot, Could touch it and hold my hand as long as I please. Do I think it's needed, not at all. But, I will keep it on there because in my uneducated heat transfer head I feel that in the morning after a 9 hour burn with the Idaho logs, the little heat they are producing the heat shield is throwing back my way over the stove. Whether that happens or not, I don't know, but I felt like it helped in the mornings.
So I have decided on a three dog for my canvas wall tent.
I am interested in the Hearth. Now that you have used the stove. Could you just get by with the pan alone?
Post by: ghosthunter on June 11, 2015, 12:59:00 PM
Post by: 92xj on June 17, 2015, 04:00:25 PM
What is Bish's tender quick?
Bish tear mender. Fabric, canvas glue. Freaking amazing stuff.
If I wrote bishs tender quick my brain was not connected to my fingers when I was typing.
Post by: tjthebest on June 17, 2015, 04:28:27 PM
I was looking for people that actually put stoves in these tents and never found anything. This is perfect reassurance for me.
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Post by: Wolfdog2314 on December 02, 2015, 01:53:39 PM
I had a stove jack installed at Beckel Canvas in Portland for about 80$.
I went with a kni-co stove. I'm happy with it but I still may upgrade to a four dog stove in the future. The kni-co got the job done. But it isn't air tight and is pretty thing. I think you could get a much longer fire out of a four dog. But overall I'm happy with it.
I used only an oil drip pan underneath and I wasn't concerned about any excessive heat on the floor.
If you're thinking about this tent and putting a stove in, do it!
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Post by: elkinrutdrivemenuts on December 02, 2015, 02:03:05 PM
I glued it in but plan on having it sewn as well to increase durability. Didn't haven any issue with the glue, but I want to be sure down the road. I was in a rush to set this up for a hunt and couldn't get it sewn in time.
I need to install a damper in the pipe to help it burn longer. I did add a piece of expanded metal to get a goo draft under the fire when I was starting it.
It was in the low 30's, wet and windy. Stove kept me very warm at night.
Post by: 92xj on December 03, 2015, 10:32:07 AM
Post by: C-Money on July 27, 2016, 09:10:03 AM
Two good looking set ups, glad it's all working out for you guys. Now to get Kodiak canvas to create the huntwa tent package to sell to the masses...
:yeah: I'm sold! Take my money!!
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Post by: C-Money on September 14, 2016, 06:41:27 AM
I went into Sportsmen's the other day to look at them again. the salesmen said it would be "a good tent if you didn't have to treat the canvas all the time." I do not recall hearing that you need to treat the canvas "all the time" if much at all. Do you guys that own them treat the canvas?
Post by: Stickerbush on September 14, 2016, 09:04:17 AM
Post by: elkinrutdrivemenuts on September 14, 2016, 09:09:04 AM
Congrats Stickerbrush! :tup:
I went into Sportsmen's the other day to look at them again. the salesmen said it would be "a good tent if you didn't have to treat the canvas all the time." I do not recall hearing that you need to treat the canvas "all the time" if much at all. Do you guys that own them treat the canvas?
Salesman is an idiot, you dont treat them all the time. I have had mine for 8 years and have never treated it once. And it has been put through the ringer.
Post by: 92xj on September 14, 2016, 09:10:11 AM
Post by: Wolfdog2314 on September 14, 2016, 12:10:06 PM
Don't have to treat. I want to say a rep with Kodiak said somewhere around the 15-20 year mark unless you live in it full time. Don't quote me on that though. After years in mine, I'm nowhere near ready or needing to coat.
I remember talking to a rep, and he said the same thing about the treating (or lack there of). I have at times during later seasons, hung a tarp higher and off of the tent. Just for added protection and life. Even tho the rep said don't even worry about it.
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Nice Kodiak set-ups.
I used mine for the first time in early deer camp.
I Love it!
I watched a bunch of youtube vids on care and maintenance make by a dealer down in Australia. Lots of very good solid advice. Other than the initial water cure there is no having to "treat the canvas all the time."
The other posters here are correct. The guy that claimed that is an idiot. The biggest thing for this part of the country is to NOT STORE THEM WET!!
Post by: bracer40 on September 25, 2017, 10:57:58 PM
I was mentally prepared to take shelter in my car if the tent collapsed. It held up splendidly! Mr heater had a heck of a workout too!
Post by: C-Money on September 26, 2017, 08:26:06 AM
Post by: bracer40 on September 26, 2017, 08:32:47 AM
May be a silly question....I have a buddy heater...anyone every worry about co poisoning? Tent does not seem drafty, and I know they are suppose to be indoor safe...but...whats your experience with a biddy heater in a Kodiak Flex Bow? I though about hooking up to a large tank outside with a hose to run the Buddy...
The Kodiak has vents at the top of each end wall, plus any of the four windows can be vented. That said, I've run my buddy heater over the years without any problems. Ran it through the night several night in a row during early season (temps in th 20s and high winds).
Post by: Wolfdog2314 on September 26, 2017, 08:33:06 AM
May be a silly question....I have a buddy heater...anyone every worry about co poisoning? Tent does not seem drafty, and I know they are suppose to be indoor safe...but...whats your experience with a biddy heater in a Kodiak Flex Bow? I though about hooking up to a large tank outside with a hose to run the Buddy...
I run my little buddy heater just about every morning inside of it for about 30 mins or so ( I like it warm before I crawl out of my bag and get dressed :chuckle: ) and no problems.
Wev ran my dad's big buddy off of a big propane tank ran from outside before also. Works great. Haven't ran either during the night while asleep. Don't think I would anyway. Warm enough sleeping bag is more than enough.
Post by: baker5150 on September 26, 2017, 08:40:34 AM
May be a silly question....I have a buddy heater...anyone every worry about co poisoning? Tent does not seem drafty, and I know they are suppose to be indoor safe...but...whats your experience with a biddy heater in a Kodiak Flex Bow? I though about hooking up to a large tank outside with a hose to run the Buddy...
Battery operated CO detectors are cheap insurance.
Post by: 92xj on September 26, 2017, 10:09:16 AM
Post by: steeleywhopper on September 26, 2017, 10:40:42 AM
Post by: 92xj on September 26, 2017, 10:49:08 AM
I've done 3 cots for grown men with no stove and had room to walk in and go to each cot to change and get in bed, gear under cots.
Post by: Stickerbush on October 01, 2017, 07:48:36 AM
May be a silly question....I have a buddy heater...anyone every worry about co poisoning? Tent does not seem drafty, and I know they are suppose to be indoor safe...but...whats your experience with a biddy heater in a Kodiak Flex Bow? I though about hooking up to a large tank outside with a hose to run the Buddy...
I run a large tank outside with a hose and the buddy heater inside. The green cannisters dont last long enough Imo, I also run a carbon monoxide detector for extra safety. Never had it go off though
Post by: Alchase on October 01, 2017, 09:18:30 AM
I have never had an issue.
The little green bottles are just a pain, they only last about 45 minutes. Hook it up to a large tank and you can run it all night if it gets cold.
I usually only turn it on before I go to bed and for a few minutes when I wake up. I sleep better when it is cold.
Post by: 92xj on September 19, 2018, 08:55:03 AM