Hunting Washington Forum
Other Hunting => Bird Dogs => Topic started by: trophyhunt on March 30, 2015, 09:52:59 AM
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I know there are other threads on recommended breeders, just want to be specific about good lines for yellow or silver lab pups. Will be a hunter and family dog, mostly family. Thanks guys, my friend lives in Bonney lake area.
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Do not get a silver lab. Do not get dog from WaLabs unless. You get good insurance my girlfriends silver lab has cost about 10 grand in degenerative issues.
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Do not get a silver lab. Do not get dog from WaLabs unless. You get good insurance my girlfriends silver lab has cost about 10 grand in degenerative issues.
:yike: thanks for the info, I haven't heard much about the silvers.
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Trophy,
I have a friend w 3 silver labs. He has had them for years. Never any issues as far as genetics. He is a lab guy for over 40 years.
He is going to be breeding them shortly. Let me know if you want his #. He is in Laconner.
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No matter what color you get, look for HEALTH CLEARANCES. Hip and Elbow OFA xrays (ask for numbers), Eye examined by a veterinary opthamologist, DNA testing for PRA, EIC , CNM and RD/OSD.
If you are interested in a silver and can find one with health clearances then look into this http://www.vetinfo.com/color-dilution-alopecia-in-dogs.html (http://www.vetinfo.com/color-dilution-alopecia-in-dogs.html)
Good luck.
WRL
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OCD in the shoulders and elbows one at a time is what happened to my girl friends silver. Id personally get a black or yellow I've always had labs and I don't consider silvers labs to be labs they act differently.
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Breeding for color makes a hot mess in genetics.
You couldn't pay me to take a silver lab. Do some searching around on the subject if this guy is a "friend".
Labs come in three colors. Black, Yellow and Chocolate. Breeders who call the colors anything else are scamming unknowing customers for more money trying to make them think their "color" has more value or is more special than the three(yes 3) colors of labs.
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Thanks a lot guys for the info, got some good suggestions via the PM.
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Have your friend read this...
http://www.notosilverlabradors.com/main.html (http://www.notosilverlabradors.com/main.html) :yike: :yike:
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Have your friend read this...
http://www.notosilverlabradors.com/main.html (http://www.notosilverlabradors.com/main.html) :yike: :yike:
:tup:
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There aren't silver labs, only black, yellow & chocolate. Happy Gilmore is right, any breeder promoting labs of another color than the recognized three is a scammer. A "silver lab" is probably a yellow lab mixed with something else to get the gene for silver hair. Your friend won't get what he thinks he's paying for, whatever that is.
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A friend of mine got a really exceptional lab from these guys some years ago: http://sunnyviewlabradors.com/ (http://sunnyviewlabradors.com/)
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Had my silver for 3 years now with zero issues, He is AKC registered as a chocolate. He kind of fell into our laps and we got him for Free, He came with all his papers and purchase recipt. Original Owner paid $1400 for him... from California silverlabs
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My wife and I got a red lab from Morgan's Pointing Labs. They are up by Addy, WA. We got him as a pup last summer and so far are very happy.
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Had my silver for 3 years now with zero issues, He is AKC registered as a chocolate. He kind of fell into our laps and we got him for Free, He came with all his papers and purchase recipt. Original Owner paid $1400 for him... from California silverlabs
not being negative about your dog at all just what you posted is the clear reason why they are bad. Breeders breed for color not to improve the breed. And, $1,400.
A dog with parents that have no performance titles(which I've seen no silver labs with anything more than a junior hunter) should be around $800 at the very most assuming the parents have hips, eyes and elbows.
Most pointing lab and color lab breeders charge far more than the dog is worth.
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My wife and I got a red lab from Morgan's Pointing Labs. They are up by Addy, WA. We got him as a pup last summer and so far are very happy.
I was just out there on teusday to check out their new pups. The mothers looked really good, the sire for 2 of the litters was there and he is a very handsome healthy athletic dog, loves to swim and retrieve. These guys really put a lot of passion into their breeding and you can tell by their dogs. I cant wait to pick up my pup here in a few weeks
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Passion vs responsibility if you are a "breeder".....
Some folks are charging a lot, making false claims, inflating abilities, skipping health testing and breeding dogs with obvious traits the breed should not produce repeatedly.
Upsets me more people willing to pay good money don't do more research
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Happy
Forgot to mention that they do all the health checks, hips, eyes, and have a health guarantee for all the pups they produce.
http://www.morgansredpointinglabs.com/Morganspuppyhealthguarantee.html
The only thing that I cant see that they dont test for are elbows. But they do guarantee their health for anything genetic.
Their first dam is still with them and she is 13. A good looking old girl too.
If you don't like the fact that they breed "red" labs then don't get one. But don't try and talk somebody out of getting what they want in a dog because you don't think it does the breed any good. The fact that the dog I am getting is red, and may or may not "point" is not why I am getting one. I am buying a quality lab, that just happens to be "red".
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Happy
Forgot to mention that they do all the health checks, hips, eyes, and have a health guarantee for all the pups they produce.
http://www.morgansredpointinglabs.com/Morganspuppyhealthguarantee.html
The only thing that I cant see that they dont test for are elbows. But they do guarantee their health for anything genetic.
Their first dam is still with them and she is 13. A good looking old girl too.
If you don't like the fact that they breed "red" labs then don't get one. But don't try and talk somebody out of getting what they want in a dog because you don't think it does the breed any good. The fact that the dog I am getting is red, and may or may not "point" is not why I am getting one. I am buying a quality lab, that just happens to be "red".
Seen a few with completely white chests. That isn't a common thing that comes up in Labs. I do know the Morgan brothers personally and have been around two of their breedings. Often elbows are tested then, simply not listed for some reason. :dunno: But hey, if they don't test elbows at the same time as hips like every other lab breeder they don't do it?
and labs only point because they are scared of the birds..lol
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My friend ended up going with the golden lab, he getting one from Sunrise in Yakima.
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and labs only point because they are scared of the birds..lol
That's funny right there!