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Title: Knight/rear peep and front hooded site setup
Post by: jackelope on April 01, 2015, 09:59:58 PM: First time I've ever done this sort of tinkering. Just want to reassure myself. I added a NECG rear peep and up front a Williams ramp, fire site and hood. Does this look right?

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Title: Re: Knight/rear peep and front hooded site setup
Post by: kenzmad on April 01, 2015, 10:20:06 PM: Looks good to me. I need a hooded front sight as I have busted the glass in the front sight 3 times now. Gotta watch how you lean it on a tree when taking a break. :bash:
Title: Re: Knight/rear peep and front hooded site setup
Post by: ghosthunter on April 01, 2015, 10:22:42 PM: Looks good.

I put a Williams on mine last year.
Might try a hood. :tup:
Title: Re: Knight/rear peep and front hooded site setup
Post by: bowhunterforever on April 01, 2015, 10:29:01 PM: Looks good :tup: I have a peep on mine, so whats the added bonus to having a hood versus not having one? :dunno:
Title: Re: Knight/rear peep and front hooded site setup
Post by: kenzmad on April 01, 2015, 11:09:58 PM: Quote from: bowhunterforever on April 01, 2015, 10:29:01 PM
Looks good :tup: I have a peep on mine, so whats the added bonus to having a hood versus not having one? :dunno:

See my post. Fiber optics are very fragile. If there is another reason, i am all ears.
Title: Re: Knight/rear peep and front hooded site setup
Post by: bowhunterforever on April 01, 2015, 11:51:03 PM: Quote from: kenzmad on April 01, 2015, 11:09:58 PM
Quote from: bowhunterforever on April 01, 2015, 10:29:01 PM
Looks good :tup: I have a peep on mine, so whats the added bonus to having a hood versus not having one? :dunno:

See my post. Fiber optics are very fragile. If there is another reason, i am all ears.
I have never had a problem breaking fiber optics
Title: Re: Knight/rear peep and front hooded site setup
Post by: whacker1 on April 02, 2015, 05:39:11 AM: looks good
Title: Re: Knight/rear peep and front hooded site setup
Post by: jackelope on April 02, 2015, 05:56:13 AM: Quote from: bowhunterforever on April 01, 2015, 11:51:03 PM
Quote from: kenzmad on April 01, 2015, 11:09:58 PM
Quote from: bowhunterforever on April 01, 2015, 10:29:01 PM
Looks good :tup: I have a peep on mine, so whats the added bonus to having a hood versus not having one? :dunno:

See my post. Fiber optics are very fragile. If there is another reason, i am all ears.
I have never had a problem breaking fiber optics

Center the circle of the hooded site in the peeps circle. Just like shooting a bow with a peep.
Title: Re: Knight/rear peep and front hooded site setup
Post by: Sabotloader on April 02, 2015, 07:50:40 AM: Quote from: jackelope on April 01, 2015, 09:59:58 PM
First time I've ever done this sort of tinkering. Just want to reassure myself. I added a NECG rear peep and up front a Williams ramp, fire site and hood. Does this look right?

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Hot Dang! That really does look good! actually the whole rifle looks good - really good... But, most would say that I am biased!

The real question will it shoot as good as it looks?

When I look thru the rear peep and out the front - It really - no I really imagine myself looking through a 1X scope....

I gotta a couple sorta like it...

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Title: Re: Knight/rear peep and front hooded site setup
Post by: jackelope on April 02, 2015, 07:56:59 AM: Sure do appreciate the insight you shared in my little project, Sabotloader.
Thank you!
Title: Re: Knight/rear peep and front hooded site setup
Post by: oneshot12 on April 02, 2015, 01:51:36 PM: :tup: yep he helped me with my Remington project man knows alot for sure and willing to help out
Title: Re: Knight/rear peep and front hooded site setup
Post by: suga on April 02, 2015, 02:00:33 PM: I have the exact sight set-up. One recommendation - Red loctite (sp?) the hood to the ramp. I learned the hard way
Title: Re: Knight/rear peep and front hooded site setup
Post by: Sabotloader on April 02, 2015, 03:39:56 PM: Quote from: suga on April 02, 2015, 02:00:33 PM
I have the exact sight set-up. One recommendation - Red loctite (sp?) the hood to the ramp. I learned the hard way

Excellent Point - I forgot to mention that...
Title: Re: Knight/rear peep and front hooded site setup
Post by: jackelope on April 02, 2015, 03:51:35 PM: Quote from: Sabotloader on April 02, 2015, 03:39:56 PM
Quote from: suga on April 02, 2015, 02:00:33 PM
I have the exact sight set-up. One recommendation - Red loctite (sp?) the hood to the ramp. I learned the hard way

Excellent Point - I forgot to mention that...

Thanks. I just threw it all together last night with no loctite or anything anywhere. Wanted to make sure it was right before I finalized things with loctite LOL.

Thanks for the tip.
:tup:
Title: Re: Knight/rear peep and front hooded site setup
Post by: nwhunter on April 04, 2015, 07:35:12 AM: Are these peep sites much different from the standard williams peep? I put a williams peep on my muzzie last year for my oregon blacktail hunt but kind of regretted it because all the action was in the evening and in low light I didnt care for the peep site because I couldnt see thru it. I was thinking of going back to the open sites after that experience. Nice looking muzzies guys.
Title: Re: Knight/rear peep and front hooded site setup
Post by: kerrdog on April 04, 2015, 08:31:24 AM: I've got the NECG rear site as well. (I just copied Sabotloader :chuckle:) It's heavy, but I like it. I have busted my front fiber optics 3+times. I bought the front hood setup...but I botched the job. Put the short screw in the long hole....then wrecked it all trying the push the front site sideways with a hammer and nail. :dunno: I didn't have a site pusher.

My buddies have rear peep sites which are more like 'rings' with fiber optic dots on the sides. It defeats the purpose of a peep IMO. Too distracting to the eye. Peeps help focus the eye by forcing you to look "through" the hole.....not at the hole. I like mine better.
Title: Re: Knight/rear peep and front hooded site setup
Post by: Sabotloader on April 04, 2015, 09:34:08 AM: Quote from: nwhunter on April 04, 2015, 07:35:12 AM
Are these peep sites much different from the standard williams peep? I put a williams peep on my muzzie last year for my oregon blacktail hunt but kind of regretted it because all the action was in the evening and in low light I didnt care for the peep site because I couldnt see thru it. I was thinking of going back to the open sites after that experience. Nice looking muzzies guys.

There are a couple of options for in low light situations:
1. you can change the size of the peep adapter that you are using - the larger the hole the more light transmitted. I use a 0.093" adapter.

2. Plus there is an option for a 'Twilight' Aperture which helps a little bit with a Brass ring inside the aperture cup.

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3. And the one that I do most often in low light - Remove the aperture and use the sight as a 'Ghost' ring aperture and when the light increases put the aperture back in.

This last one you really can not do with the NECG as the aperture helps hold the elevation control of the sight.
Title: Re: Knight/rear peep and front hooded site setup
Post by: huntnfmly on April 04, 2015, 11:31:51 AM: Where can I get this set up? I need two for my daughters muzzy. A Knight bighorn and wolverine. Looks like the peep sights with brass insert and the hooded front sight would fit the bill thanks
Title: Re: Knight/rear peep and front hooded site setup
Post by: jackelope on April 04, 2015, 01:40:23 PM: Quote from: huntnfmly on April 04, 2015, 11:31:51 AM
Where can I get this set up? I need two for my daughters muzzy. A Knight bighorn and wolverine. Looks like the peep sights with brass insert and the hooded front sight would fit the bill thanks

The front site setup I ended up buying from Midway. It's 3 seperate pieces. The ramp, fire site, and the hood. The rear I bought off of eBay. It's a NECG for a weaver base. I don't recall the exact part #'s for the front site pieces but I'm not sure that would be the correct stuff for your rifles. I bet you could get the NECG site from Midway as well.
Title: Re: Knight/rear peep and front hooded site setup
Post by: huntnfmly on April 04, 2015, 02:34:55 PM: Thanks for the info
Title: Re: Knight/rear peep and front hooded site setup
Post by: kerrdog on April 06, 2015, 07:17:46 PM: They're kinda expensive. It seems like I paid $90 just for the rear site. (when I lost the apertures they only charged me $5 each for replacements. They were $24 on Brownells.
Title: Re: Knight/rear peep and front hooded site setup
Post by: jackelope on April 06, 2015, 08:24:06 PM: The NECG site is normally about $90. I bought mine on eBay. Won the auction at $76 with free shipping.
Title: Re: Knight/rear peep and front hooded site setup
Post by: jackelope on April 06, 2015, 08:24:55 PM: The front setup was about $55 shipped all together from midway.