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Title: mechanical heads legal 2015
Post by: Dirty Mike on April 17, 2015, 08:09:44 PM
Now that they are legal who's using them?
Title: Re: mechanical heads legal 2015
Post by: longwalker on April 17, 2015, 08:30:04 PM
If you know how to tune your bow and your arrows there completely unnecessary. I can shoot my whack ums out to 100 yards and there exact where my field points hit form there to 20. Just one more moving part
Title: Re: mechanical heads legal 2015
Post by: Jellymon on April 17, 2015, 08:45:33 PM
You need to tune your bow no matter what head you're using. There isn't a modern fixed head that I haven't been able to get to fly with field points (never tried Allen heads :chuckle:) Add to that better durability, less wasted energy, better penetration, and better reliability, I don't see the point in using mechs. I won't use them, especially for Elk. :twocents:
Title: Re: mechanical heads legal 2015
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on April 18, 2015, 04:46:56 AM
I'm gonna experiment with them on the target.  Just to see the difference from my fixed heads.
Title: Re: mechanical heads legal 2015
Post by: Russ McDonald on April 18, 2015, 06:51:12 AM
Grimreapers.  Used them before I moved to WA going to use them again.
Title: Re: mechanical heads legal 2015
Post by: LeviD1 on April 18, 2015, 12:35:55 PM
I bought a 3 pack of schwackers. Im excited to try them out. From what I have watched they have good penetration and leave big holes.
Title: Re: mechanical heads legal 2015
Post by: D-Rock425 on April 18, 2015, 02:31:00 PM
If it ain't broke don't fix it.  I'll shoot what I know works 100% of the time.
Title: Re: mechanical heads legal 2015
Post by: earlmarne on April 18, 2015, 03:30:18 PM
I think I will be using some rage hypodermics this year.I got 570 grain arrows at 268 fps so I feel pretty good about having enough oohmph.
Title: Re: mechanical heads legal 2015
Post by: Z_rock01 on April 20, 2015, 04:52:52 PM
I'll be using DirtNap Gear Broad heads! These Broad heads keep impressing me with every shot
Title: Re: mechanical heads legal 2015
Post by: LeviD1 on April 21, 2015, 10:19:36 AM
Shot my schwackers practice head yesterday and its shoots exactly where my field tips hit and shuttle t's hit. Im excited to try them. Since both heads are dead on with everything else I'm carryingthem both this year.
Title: Re: mechanical heads legal 2015
Post by: Rainier10 on April 21, 2015, 10:34:18 AM
Sticking with my fixed blade thunderheads.  Excited to hear some reports back from guys that are making a change though.
Title: Re: mechanical heads legal 2015
Post by: BULLBLASTER on April 21, 2015, 11:54:36 AM
I think ill have a rage or 2 in my quiver this year.
Title: Re: mechanical heads legal 2015
Post by: Band on April 21, 2015, 12:44:30 PM
I'm curious, how much damage do mechanicals do to broadhead targets compared to fixed blades?  How easy are mechanicals to remove from targets compared to fixed blades?
Title: Re: mechanical heads legal 2015
Post by: LeviD1 on April 21, 2015, 04:11:22 PM
I'm curious, how much damage do mechanicals do to broadhead targets compared to fixed blades?  How easy are mechanicals to remove from targets compared to fixed blades?

I was shooting my shuttle t's and schwackers side by side yesterday. Seemed about the same amount of damage and same to remove from the target. I was shooting the practice head that does not open. You dont want to shoot the actual head because then I think it would do a whole lot more damage and be very difficult to remove.
Title: Re: mechanical heads legal 2015
Post by: demontang on April 25, 2015, 07:06:46 PM
I'll stick with muzzy or g5
Title: Re: mechanical heads legal 2015
Post by: Lucky1 on April 25, 2015, 09:18:25 PM
I am going to try shwackers this year.  :IBCOOL:

I have been shooting shuttle t's. They work good, but I think they are not as forgiving on a bad release as the mechanical heads are.

I killed a few whitetails years ago in Minnesota with Rocky Mountain mechanicals. They worked great.
Title: Re: mechanical heads legal 2015
Post by: haulinbass on April 25, 2015, 09:27:34 PM
I would discourage shwackers. From experience they should be called trackers.  :twocents:
Title: Re: mechanical heads legal 2015
Post by: Lucky1 on April 25, 2015, 09:33:20 PM
What happened?
Title: Re: mechanical heads legal 2015
Post by: LeviD1 on April 26, 2015, 07:07:57 AM
What happened?

Im guessing a bad shot.. even if you make a bad shot its going to not be good for tracking. Or maybe the bigger blades didnt deploy,  which is another reason i like the schwackers cause they still have the first blades that hit and will leave at least a 1 inch hole. Also if i only drew less than 55 lbs i would probably use a cut on contact and not trust a mechanical. I think thats the reason for the mpst part why people have a mechanical fail is cause they are shooting with the propper amount of force then obvioisly they hate them afterwords. That statement is just an opinion and not factual and not directed toward anyone.  :)
Title: Re: mechanical heads legal 2015
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on April 26, 2015, 08:08:55 AM
Not me ...
Title: Re: mechanical heads legal 2015
Post by: SGTDuffman on April 26, 2015, 07:59:20 PM
I'm going to keep using the single bevel 2 blades I've been using. If I do change broadheads, it will be to a forged version of the same head. Though that would mean either dropping down to 150 grains, or more likely jumping up to 200 grains, from the 175 grain head I'm using now. Either way I'd be between 625 and 675 grains total. I'm a big fan of keeping heads simple. The more complex they are the more likely they are to fail. I guarantee mine never fails to open. I spent more time looking for my arrow than my deer last year because it was buried into the ground to the fletch after a 68yd shot. Know yourself and tune your gear correctly, and there is no reason at all to ever use a mechanical head.
Title: Re: mechanical heads legal 2015
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on April 26, 2015, 08:09:09 PM
Pot is legal. Won't be using it either.  Don't kid yourself folks, mechs have a tendencey to fail when deployed in the most extreme conditions.. COC solid BH is the way to go.  Yes, there have been elk taken with mechs but there are many, many tales of failures also.. I won't take that chance.     
Title: Re: mechanical heads legal 2015
Post by: ridgefire on April 26, 2015, 08:34:54 PM
I will be using my magnus snuffer ss again this year and have no plans of changing anytime soon. If i ever change it will be to some other one piece coc head.
Title: Re: mechanical heads legal 2015
Post by: MLBowhunting on April 26, 2015, 08:47:09 PM
Will be using the fixed blade Savora.   :tup:
Title: Re: mechanical heads legal 2015
Post by: Russ McDonald on April 27, 2015, 06:54:36 AM
Not putting down fixed BH but it should be a hunters choice.  I have heard of tracked and unrecovered animals shot with fixed broadheads.  Find what you like whether is it fixed or mechanical.  I am going from my Muzzy 4 blades to the Grim Reapers.  Only because I have used them before moving to WA.  Happy hunting everyone.  :tup:
Title: Re: mechanical heads legal 2015
Post by: TheHunt on April 27, 2015, 10:24:26 AM
I am going to buy a set of mechanical just to increase my knowledge.  But I will be using Shuttle T's as they have never failed me yet.  I have no need to fix something that is not broken.

The other item is that if an elk is standing in back of a bush.  And the bush is fairly sparse I will send the Shuttle T through it and take the elk.  I have done this multiple times.  I am not sure I would do that with a mechanical.  As I said I will have to mess with it.
Title: Re: mechanical heads legal 2015
Post by: SGTDuffman on April 27, 2015, 06:51:22 PM
Not putting down fixed BH but it should be a hunters choice.  I have heard of tracked and unrecovered animals shot with fixed broadheads.  Find what you like whether is it fixed or mechanical.  I am going from my Muzzy 4 blades to the Grim Reapers.  Only because I have used them before moving to WA.  Happy hunting everyone.  :tup:

An animal can be wounded by any head, but I'd think an animal wounded by a sharp cut on contact 2 blade has a much better chance of healing and recovering from a wounding shot than an animal that has some crazy expandable shot through it. The gnarly wound channel that somehow makes them "more lethal" than a shot to the heart, also makes them more likely to cause sepsis or infection on less than perfect shots, with no better chance of recovering the animal, and little to no chance of the animal recovering.
Title: Re: mechanical heads legal 2015
Post by: Lucky1 on April 27, 2015, 10:38:47 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4M4v8eHmzK4

He shot the Brown bear with a shwacker mechanical.
Title: Re: mechanical heads legal 2015
Post by: flcracker on April 28, 2015, 08:11:46 AM
I've had really good experiences with mechanical heads but also bad ones before I moved to Washington. When they open perfectly with a good shot the blood trail can be what they show on tv but I've also lost well shot deer and pigs when using them. I've only had good experiences with fixed blade...sticking with the muzzy
Title: Re: mechanical heads legal 2015
Post by: LeviD1 on April 28, 2015, 09:49:18 AM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4M4v8eHmzK4

He shot the Brown bear with a shwacker mechanical.

Thats why I chose to try schwackers. No matter what even if they fail to open you get a 1" cut and the design of them I think it would be very very rare for them to fail even. but that is pretty much my same set-up haha. PSE Evo and schwackers. Cant wait to try them out.
Title: Re: mechanical heads legal 2015
Post by: Nice Racks on April 28, 2015, 10:48:57 AM
Just use Rage.  They guarentee you find your animal or get your money back.  :chuckle:
Title: Re: mechanical heads legal 2015
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on April 28, 2015, 03:56:56 PM
Just use Rage.  They guarentee you find your animal or get your money back.  :chuckle:

So they'll pay for the trip huh?  Obviously it's worth it right there.  Jeez guys.  Wise up.
Title: Re: mechanical heads legal 2015
Post by: Nice Racks on April 28, 2015, 04:41:21 PM
Just use Rage.  They guarentee you find your animal or get your money back.  :chuckle:

So they'll pay for the trip huh?  Obviously it's worth it right there.  Jeez guys.  Wise up.
I use fixed blade heads. Was just being sarcastic about that guarantee.
Title: Re: mechanical heads legal 2015
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on April 28, 2015, 06:59:00 PM
Just use Rage.  They guarentee you find your animal or get your money back.  :chuckle:

So they'll pay for the trip huh?  Obviously it's worth it right there.  Jeez guys.  Wise up.
I use fixed blade heads. Was just being sarcastic about that guarantee.

Yea. I caught that.
Title: Re: mechanical heads legal 2015
Post by: saylean on May 09, 2015, 11:20:55 PM
I'll stick with muzzy or g5

Same here demon.
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