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Title: The North Star Duplicator: Setting Up to carve Gunstocks
Post by: Woodhunter on April 25, 2015, 06:55:50 PM
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Title: Re: The North Star Duplicator: Setting Up to carve Gunstocks
Post by: Stickerbush on April 25, 2015, 07:07:45 PM
Nice
Title: Re: The North Star Duplicator: Setting Up to carve Gunstocks
Post by: CAMPMEAT on April 25, 2015, 07:07:48 PM
Very, very cool...
Title: Re: The North Star Duplicator: Setting Up to carve Gunstocks
Post by: HntnFsh on April 25, 2015, 07:08:08 PM
That is incredible! Looks like a whole lot of know how involved. That stock is going to be amazing! I think back about some of the figured maple I cut up for firewood back in my wood cutting days and it almost makes me want to cry. Young and dumb!
Title: Re: The North Star Duplicator: Setting Up to carve Gunstocks
Post by: KFhunter on April 25, 2015, 07:12:07 PM
wow that is cool, thanks for taking the time to write this up.
Title: Re: The North Star Duplicator: Setting Up to carve Gunstocks
Post by: RadSav on April 25, 2015, 07:24:34 PM
Very nice.  That is a very nice looking sanding cradle.  Should be the cats meow as a checkering cradle too :tup:
Title: Re: The North Star Duplicator: Setting Up to carve Gunstocks
Post by: HUNTaHOLIC5 on April 25, 2015, 07:34:09 PM
Very cool write up! Thanks for sharing
Title: Re: The North Star Duplicator: Setting Up to carve Gunstocks
Post by: huntandjeep on April 25, 2015, 08:58:54 PM
Wow . What would a ball park cost be for that maple  ?
Title: Re: The North Star Duplicator: Setting Up to carve Gunstocks
Post by: Biggerhammer on April 25, 2015, 09:10:45 PM
Wow . What would a ball park cost be for that maple  ?

Bust out your wallet, it may rain Savages all day for 399.00 but when it comes to classy wood and quality stock work. You pay to play!
Title: Re: The North Star Duplicator: Setting Up to carve Gunstocks
Post by: Woodhunter on April 26, 2015, 05:32:48 AM
Wow . What would a ball park cost be for that maple  ?

Bust out your wallet, it may rain Savages all day for 399.00 but when it comes to classy wood and quality stock work. You pay to play!

So it is 5:30 AM Sunday, got a chuckle out of BigHammer's comment.

Yea, good blanks are money in the bank.  Mine are for special projects and "savings" for the future when money gets tight, don't plan on selling any soon. 

Just to let guys know that may want a blank, I am not in the stock making business for either carving for others or selling blanks, all this stuff is for me to play with on my personal guns.  Besides I do not have a FFL or  Business License, if I worked on stuff for anyone the ATF would be hot on my hide.

I will throw up some pics later today showing where the blanks came from.  "A long long time ago in a place far far away".
Title: Re: The North Star Duplicator: Setting Up to carve Gunstocks
Post by: HntnFsh on April 26, 2015, 06:47:29 AM
You have to have an FFL to make stocks? Sheesh!
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Post by: Fl0und3rz on April 26, 2015, 07:29:47 AM
About the best post on here, ever!
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Post by: GBoyd on April 26, 2015, 08:07:13 AM
That is some real quality work. You've got me thinking of some maple, yew, and madrona I've got in a shed. I hadn't thought about making a stock, but maybe it would be a fun project.

Do you happen to know any resources on stock building for us guys without that specialized equipment?
Title: Re: The North Star Duplicator: Setting Up to carve Gunstocks
Post by: Woodhunter on April 26, 2015, 08:36:20 AM
You have to have an FFL to make stocks? Sheesh!

Nope, not to make stocks.   But to retain a firearm for stock fitting requires a FFL.

If a firearm is retained overnight or longer for work by a gunsmith, stockmaker, or similar craftsman a FFL is required and the firearm must be logged in on an approved firearms transaction form.  And the disposition must be logged out when the firearm is returned to the owner.

And with the new Washington law, even if a person drops off a firearm at another person's facility the transaction must be recorded. Thanks, you liberal I-5 corridor voters!!!

All the rule and regulations take away the fun of working on guns.   Not worth the hassle for me.  So I just work on my personal guns.




Title: Re: The North Star Duplicator: Setting Up to carve Gunstocks
Post by: Woodhunter on April 26, 2015, 11:29:01 AM
That is some real quality work. You've got me thinking of some maple, yew, and madrona I've got in a shed. I hadn't thought about making a stock, but maybe it would be a fun project.

Do you happen to know any resources on stock building for us guys without that specialized equipment?

Ed Lapour    Bremerton      Ed is a high end custom builder, he has a duplicator but may have a long backlog. 

Paul Dressel  Yakima   Paul sells stock blanks and also has a duplicating service


Both have web sites, google.

There are others in WA but can't think of them now.      Average cost:   $200 low end and higher, depending on the reputation and skill of the guy and if he has a pattern.   Add more if the gent is a guild member.



Title: Re: The North Star Duplicator: Setting Up to carve Gunstocks
Post by: Damnimissed on April 26, 2015, 12:32:51 PM
What if after its all set up, I push the power button for the machine. Then, when it's done, I could pay you back that money that I borrowed from you that one time, remember? :chuckle:
Title: Re: The North Star Duplicator: Setting Up to carve Gunstocks
Post by: Biggerhammer on April 26, 2015, 12:37:57 PM
Ed Lapour is going to work over a recently acquired 7x57.
Title: Re: The North Star Duplicator: Setting Up to carve Gunstocks
Post by: Woodhunter on April 26, 2015, 02:33:32 PM
Ed Lapour is going to work over a recently acquired 7x57.


Mmm Ed does very good work.   Below is a 7x57 he stocked around 15 years ago

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Title: Re: The North Star Duplicator: Setting Up to carve Gunstocks
Post by: 257 Wby Mag on April 27, 2015, 07:11:06 PM
Very cool woodhunter! I appreciate the fact you still run beautiful wood, thanks for taking the time to post pics...
Title: Re: The North Star Duplicator: Setting Up to carve Gunstocks
Post by: Angry Perch on April 27, 2015, 07:22:10 PM
Way cool. I imagine you can build up a pattern stock with glass, Bondo, etc? I have a Mannlicher Shoenauer 1903 that had the stock *censored*ized in a former life. A dream is to some day restock it with a full length Mannlicher stock.
Title: Re: The North Star Duplicator: Setting Up to carve Gunstocks
Post by: Woodhunter on April 27, 2015, 07:56:07 PM
Way cool. I imagine you can build up a pattern stock with glass, Bondo, etc? I have a Mannlicher Shoenauer 1903 that had the stock *censored*ized in a former life. A dream is to some day restock it with a full length Mannlicher stock.

I use plain grain maple when making a pattern from scratch.  If I run across a ready made stock that I like, I use it for a pattern and often make modifications.   Bondo is the pattern makers friend!

Here I am modifying the pistol grip on a wood pattern stock.  Note the can of Bondo on the bench.  For this grip extension I screwed a piece of 3/4" thick oak on to the bottom of the pistol grip then faired in with Bondo.

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In the photo below, the top stock is a factory with a cheek piece glued on and an extension screwed on the butt.  Three patterns below are derivations of the top stock, each with a different pistol grip arrangement to fit large hands and to place the hand further back on the stock to avoid finger damage from the trigger guard on heavy recoil rifles.  The bottom one is sort of extreme but works nicely on a hard kicking 500 Jeffery. Purists and Guild members do not like the arrangement of all of the patterns but they sure make shooting those big nastys easier on the shooter.  They also have cast off.

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Title: Re: The North Star Duplicator: Setting Up to carve Gunstocks
Post by: Ridge Hunter on April 27, 2015, 07:57:54 PM
That is pretty cool, thank you for sharing!
Title: Re: The North Star Duplicator: Setting Up to carve Gunstocks
Post by: Woodhunter on April 27, 2015, 08:04:45 PM
Very nice.  That is a very nice looking sanding cradle.  Should be the cats meow as a checkering cradle too :tup:

It was my checkering cradle.  Made another checkering cradle from a discarded wood lathe:

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Stock may be rotated 360 degrees and locked in any position, the cradle both tilts and swivels a full 360 and may be locked in any position.  I usually clamp it in the big wood vise on the bench but sometimes remove the wood block and bolt it directly to the bench.
Title: Re: The North Star Duplicator: Setting Up to carve Gunstocks
Post by: Dan-o on April 27, 2015, 08:33:31 PM
Excellent thread.

Thank you for sharing.
Title: Re: The North Star Duplicator: Setting Up to carve Gunstocks
Post by: RadSav on April 28, 2015, 12:40:56 AM
Very nice.  That is a very nice looking sanding cradle.  Should be the cats meow as a checkering cradle too :tup:
It was my checkering cradle.  Made another checkering cradle from a discarded wood lathe:

Oh My Goodness!  That thing is sweet.  I think I need one of those!!  :chuckle:
Title: Re: The North Star Duplicator: Setting Up to carve Gunstocks
Post by: elkinrutdrivemenuts on April 28, 2015, 07:51:33 AM
I recently sent off my rifle for to have the stock duplicated.  It was much more affordable than a custom made stock.  Are you setting up a business? 
Title: Re: The North Star Duplicator: Setting Up to carve Gunstocks
Post by: Woodhunter on April 28, 2015, 09:41:29 AM
I recently sent off my rifle for to have the stock duplicated.  It was much more affordable than a custom made stock.  Are you setting up a business?

No!  Retired and too old and grumpy to work for a living. 

I just enjoy working on guns and doing stock work.  After many years of having to work, raising kids, all the usual stuff most guys go through, I can finally do what I want to when I want to.
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Post by: runamuk on April 28, 2015, 10:47:09 AM
Beautiful
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Post by: Woodhunter on April 28, 2015, 06:34:23 PM
Scroll up to page 1 for an edit and more photos of pattern stocks.
Title: Re: The North Star Duplicator: Setting Up to carve Gunstocks
Post by: Biggerhammer on April 28, 2015, 11:45:00 PM
I recently sent off my rifle for to have the stock duplicated.  It was much more affordable than a custom made stock.  Are you setting up a business?

No!  Retired and too old and grumpy to work for a living. 

I just enjoy working on guns and doing stock work.  After many years of having to work, raising kids, all the usual stuff most guys go through, I can finally do what I want to when I want to.

PERFECT! I do what I want...
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