Post by: Romulus1297 on April 25, 2015, 11:01:08 PM
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Post by: fishngamereaper on April 26, 2015, 12:01:41 AM
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Post by: 180-GRAIN on April 26, 2015, 09:29:22 AM
Post by: magnumb on April 26, 2015, 10:10:17 AM
I've had seasons where I've nearly found as many bulls and cows bloated up as were hanging on meat poles within that same area's camp sites.
For years, this herd has been at the top of the list as 'least healthy' in terms of population (and perhaps other factors) among all major Washington State herds.
Not sure how they justify all of these changes to this particular area and herd given their status as a major herd, but I'm hoping that the ag issues don't completely blur the department's commitment to us as their employers. Ag issues are certainly real, but no less real than our desire to maintain a healthy population of elk in that area that also happens to fund ag owners who incur losses from elk damage (whether fairly compensated....I don't know).
So why would the department want more 'breeder' bulls to survive each year if they really want to reduce the overall population by making these area's only 'true' or spike only........ :dunno:. So where are all those big bulls anyway.....?
Trust me.......I think that the answer is pretty clear. Given that only 6 modern firearm tags are given out for 'any bull' in my area, I do know that they haven't vanished due to our yearly harvests.
So many hands in the cookie jar, with ours getting much less cookie jar time and efforts than most all else. Maybe if they could just up our tag and license fee's some more and we should just be grateful to them for still allowing us to hunt.
That should work.......as it has for as many years as I care to remember.
Post by: coachcw on April 26, 2015, 01:37:03 PM
Post by: PlateauNDN on April 26, 2015, 02:10:05 PM
Post by: magnumb on April 26, 2015, 02:27:05 PM
They won't harvest 1000
Not trying to be contrary, but if 'they' includes each and every group that hunts these particular elk, then it would be both miraculous and much appreciated if someone/anyone could or would share with me the annual tribal take..........the actual tribal take........ ;).
So unless that # can be verifiably confirmed, there is no possible way to know if 1,000 elk, or perhaps even more, are taken each year. If that information is somehow available to you or anyone here, while you've got access to such secretive info, perhaps you have handy the annual tribal harvest of major bulls as well......?
That truly accurate statistic is likely just as available to us as is what their actual annual harvest is and about the same chance of ever acquiring as would Hillary willingly turning over all of her deleted 'personal' emails to Congress.................snowballs and hell comes to mind...... ;)
Post by: Whitpirate on April 26, 2015, 10:10:31 PM
Post by: magnumb on April 27, 2015, 09:02:14 AM
They'd have to actually try and write it down first.
Oh......right. What was I thinking......... :dunno:.
Bottomline........no mortal can say with any certainty nor believability that 1,000 elk, or more, will not be killed.
In addition to this, so far, unattainable statistic, mortally wounded elk and those poached by all people, is no less disturbing and of a concern (to me, anyway) and need to be included in this count.
Afterall......a dead elk, one that no longer is available to later enhance this herd's population or that we might be able to legally harvest in the future, is of no use to anyone. Those numbers are no less important or valid.