Post by: winslow on May 08, 2015, 10:00:08 PM
What kind of game is that?
Post by: Bean Counter on May 08, 2015, 10:03:30 PM
That and people probably don't want to have to remount, bore sight, and zero the scope just to take it off for a photo ;)
Post by: bobcat on May 08, 2015, 10:07:12 PM
Post by: jrebel on May 08, 2015, 10:10:54 PM
I am sure you could always through an offer out for the scope to be included. Maybe the seller will bite and sell as a package.
Post by: grundy53 on May 08, 2015, 10:11:14 PM
Post by: Bigshooter on May 08, 2015, 10:16:37 PM
I never take mine off until the rifle sales. If it doesn't and I end up keeping it then it is still sighted in. Not sure why it is that big a deal.... :dunno: :dunno: :dunno: Am I missing something.
I am sure you could always through an offer out for the scope to be included. Maybe the seller will bite and sell as a package.
:yeah:
Post by: HawkCreek on May 08, 2015, 10:49:32 PM
Post by: coachcw on May 09, 2015, 06:37:01 AM
Post by: yorketransport on May 09, 2015, 08:53:50 AM
every scope is for sale you just haven't settled on the price yet :chuckle::yeah: :chuckle:
Post by: magnumb on May 09, 2015, 09:02:15 AM
I've never put on a scope that I felt was done properly that didn't take hours to complete and took no less than a gazillion adjustments while doing so.
I've also never sold a rifle without the scope attached and have always sold both to people that know me. They never question the integrity of the mount and evidently feel that they'll get as good a shooter as this combination can produce. Having said that, I would never purchase an attached scope/rifle combo without remounting that scope or replacing it and also mounting that one myself.
All in all, I wouldn't and shouldn't ever expect a seller to remove a scope for a picture and if they do.......I'd just consider it a plus for those that would prefer that.
Post by: winslow on May 09, 2015, 11:23:28 PM
I can tell you, though, the letdown when you read, "SCOPE NOT INCLUDED" After seeing the pic and price is enough to kill the excitement it takes to get someone to bite on your item.
Just sayin'...
Post by: Taco280AI on May 09, 2015, 11:46:49 PM
Post by: 7mmstalker on May 10, 2015, 07:01:33 PM
Scopes are so varied, and have a large range of applications. Most shooters have their preference and many prefer to set up the rifle how it suits them and their intended use.
For someone that simply wants a ready to hunt deer / elk rifle and basic 3X9 scope, the package deals available at retail stores are hard to beat.
Post by: wildmanoutdoors on May 10, 2015, 08:24:36 PM
OK, I guess it's unanimous...nobody but me is bothered by this.What your saying is you get the rifle and scope at the rifle only price and are dissapoineted when you don't. People here know the price of their firearms and optics. Like others have said the scope is not included in the price and the rifle is usually priced at a fair market, so don't be surprised when you don't get the scope for free. No dummies here.
I can tell you, though, the letdown when you read, "SCOPE NOT INCLUDED" After seeing the pic and price is enough to kill the excitement it takes to get someone to bite on your item.
Just sayin'...
Post by: xXLojackXx on May 11, 2015, 08:36:50 AM
Post by: pd on May 11, 2015, 10:11:54 AM
Winslow you're one of a kind from the sounds of it :dunno:
Perhaps, but he asked a fair question, and let's give him credit for that. Winslow probably now gets it: In summary, sellers of rifles (with mounted scopes) will show the package photograph (and not remove the scope), but list the "gun only, does not include scope" because of the difficulty/effort required to re-center the scope if the gun doesn't sell." It really is as simple as that. This is not a case of Bait-and-Switch, as the seller is not trying to pump up the sale by showing the scope--we know this because the seller clearly states "scope not included."
There is one more thing to consider. Sellers could just as easily show a stock photograph (from an online source, such as Gun Broker or the maker's website), to show what the gun would look like if brand new. I, for one, would never want this. I much prefer to see the gun as it is, scratches, modified, re-painted or whatever. Thus, the actual gun with the mounted scope is the best option.
Let's let this thread rest, OK?
Post by: magnumb on May 11, 2015, 11:24:14 AM
Winslow you're one of a kind from the sounds of it :dunno:
Unless I'm mistaken..........aren't we all....... ;).
Truth be told......sometimes just one of each of us is more than enough for many.
Post by: tgomez on May 11, 2015, 09:03:45 PM